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Fundaamental

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I do know what i have posted.
friend I don't want to fall out with any Christians here over this topic.

This is the first time for me I have ever discussed this topic it's all new to me,

But from what I've learned from people in this situation is they need a lot of help, I'm only talking about the people who openly talk about their problems and my concerns are centered around these people who cry out for help.

Other people's concerns in this thread are about these kind of people who commit monstrosity,

And have a hard time dealing with this discussion.

My genuine concerns are if these people are turned away they could be made to bury the problem that they have because they might be coming to places like this for guidance before they spoke to their parents,

Or there parents maybe people of the religious nature Who cannot accept their children's problem.

There has to be a place for these people to be shown love of Christ and also to be shown how scripture has not being represented accordingly for there needs by religious people.





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You use thoughts to suit your own agenda.

Let me put this in to perspective.

A Christians thoughts may not be the there own because a Satan can manipulate them

But a gay persons thoughts are there own because science says so.

What a load of crap.
Satan can [[only]] manipulate those who are not in the Word daily, praying and worshiping all day long, and keeping their eyes upon God!

you must so weak if you'rte constantly manipulated by Satan!

A gay person's thoughts are from Possession and Mental Illness.

so, let me put this into perspective, Satan laughs at you like most Followers of God.

you twist the Bible to suit your fantasies, people have offered Scripture after Scripture on many topics you're involved in and you just don't want to see the Truth but your own view, and you think the Bible is outdated.

in all seriousness, you could be possessed right now because you're nowhere in line according to God's Holy Word!

you are an easy TARGET for the Enemy!

you literally live in a make believe reality.
 
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friend I don't want to fall out with any Christians here over this topic.

This is the first time for me I have ever discussed this topic it's all new to me,

But from what I've learned from people in this situation is they need a lot of help, I'm only talking about the people who openly talk about their problems and my concerns are centered around these people who cry out for help.

Other people's concerns in this thread are about these kind of people who commit monstrosity,

And have a hard time dealing with this discussion.

My genuine concerns are if these people are turned away they could be made to bury the problem that they have because they might be coming to places like this for guidance before they spoke to their parents,

Or there parents maybe people of the religious nature Who cannot accept their children's problem.

There has to be a place for these people to be shown love of Christ and also to be shown how scripture has not being represented accordingly for there needs by religious people.





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This wickedness is killing people, and westerm culture promotes it.
It has crept into every corner of our culture from miss Netherlands is a man, to girl sports, and restrooms. Its on tv and radio and its in public schools and libraries. Its evil and is claiming many lives. You have on more than one occasion blamed Christians for these deaths rather than sin and satan, saying that ot isnour condemnation ofnthis evil that causes the death. No. It is cultural promotion and imposing of this wickedness on younh people and accepting the sin that has caised it to spread and kill more and more.
 

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Satan can [[only]] manipulate those who are not in the Word daily, praying and worshiping all day long, and keeping their eyes upon God!

you must so weak if you'rte constantly manipulated by Satan!

A gay person's thoughts are from Possession and Mental Illness.

so, let me put this into perspective, Satan laughs at you like most Followers of God.

you twist the Bible to suit your fantasies, people have offered Scripture after Scripture on many topics you're involved in and you just don't want to see the Truth but your own view, and you think the Bible is outdated.

in all seriousness, you could be possessed right now because you're nowhere in line according to God's Holy Word!

you are an easy TARGET for the Enemy!

you literally live in a make believe reality.
so you give the thumbs up to Christians who say I had thoughts that where immoral, but I never acted upon them because I know these thoughts where from Satan.

Really how does such a person know there thoughts are Satan's ?

Then in the other hand you have no regard for a person who may be suffering the same and call that possessed ?

What sort of fantasy is that other than twisted.

Especially when I'm speaking of young children here.

Or people who don't know Jesus or what possession is.

As in the documentary I posted of 20 teenagers who killed them selfs.

And is this my twisted fantasy to


Mathew Jesus speaking
19:12, while discussing divorce Jesus says, "for there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can." In other words, he acknowledges that eunuchs exist, but he does not condemn them

eunuchs a man who has been castrated, especially (in the past) one employed to guard the women's living areas in an Asian court...

Jesus tells us people are born with Genital defects here too.

Does Jesus go on to say those genital defects are caused by what modern day science has proven, in the way of mixed intersex chromosomes hormonal cells.

Should Jesus have explained it that way.

The people back then hadn't advance that way in medical care

Is this my fantasy to.

A child born that way

Are they possessed to ?

Or is it there own fault they go gay to.

Or is it the child's fault if they don't learn the word of God.

Especially since we have so many twisted individuals about twisting scripture.
 
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so you give the thumbs up to Christians who say I had thoughts that where immoral, but I never acted upon them because I know these thoughts where from Satan.

Really how does such a person know there thoughts are Satan's ?

Then in the other hand you have no regard for a person who may be suffering the same and call that possessed ?

What sort of fantasy is that other than twisted.

Especially when I'm speaking of young children here.

Or people who don't know Jesus or what possession is.

As in the documentary I posted of 20 teenagers who killed them selfs.

And is this my twisted fantasy to


Mathew Jesus speaking
19:12, while discussing divorce Jesus says, "for there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can." In other words, he acknowledges that eunuchs exist, but he does not condemn them

eunuchs a man who has been castrated, especially (in the past) one employed to guard the women's living areas in an Asian court...

Jesus tells us people are born with Genital defects here too.

Does Jesus go on to say those genital defects are caused by what modern day science has proven, in the way of mixed intersex chromosomes hormonal cells.

Should Jesus have explained it that way.

The people back then hadn't advance that way in medical care

Is this my fantasy to.

A child born that way

Are they possessed to ?

Or is it there own fault they go gay to.

Or is it the child's fault if they don't learn the word of God.

Especially since we have so many twisted individuals about twisting scripture.
You have issues and someone like you should not be online where it's easy to expose yourself like this.

What medication did your parents allow the family doctor to subscribe for you growing up?

Because it is being revealed in a major way when you unveil any thought towards topics especially dealing with mental illness.
 

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You have issues and someone like you should not be online where it's easy to expose yourself like this.

What medication did your parents allow the family doctor to subscribe for you growing up?

Because it is being revealed in a major way when you unveil any thought towards topics especially dealing with mental illness.
Are you the God of the internet to, obviously you can't answer a single reasonable stance and choose to attack me personally.

The fact you choose to attack me after recieving the Word of Jesus.

Proves your the one with issues
 

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Satan can [[only]] manipulate those who are not in the Word daily, praying and worshiping all day long, and keeping their eyes upon God!

you must so weak if you'rte constantly manipulated by Satan!

A gay person's thoughts are from Possession and Mental Illness.

so, let me put this into perspective, Satan laughs at you like most Followers of God.

you twist the Bible to suit your fantasies, people have offered Scripture after Scripture on many topics you're involved in and you just don't want to see the Truth but your own view, and you think the Bible is outdated.

in all seriousness, you could be possessed right now because you're nowhere in line according to God's Holy Word!

you are an easy TARGET for the Enemy!

you literally live in a make believe reality.
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Are you the God of the internet to, obviously you can't answer a single reasonable stance and choose to attack me personally.

The fact you choose to attack me after recieving the Word of Jesus.

Proves your the one with issues
Your unsubstantiated posts and reasoning are the proofs.

One thread Jesus is limited by you and in another its the Father not Holy Spirit that gives the Utterance to Speaking in Tongues to views that your thoughts cannot be held accountable to yourself because you believe Satan can manipulate you, someone claiming to be Saved, and then you turn around and claim the Bible is outdated and Science is truth.

You even admitted your own personal friends disagree with your views on the Bible and they're true blue Christians.

You have provided us with all of these mental ramblings within past couple months and wonder how we could put it all together and figure you out.

These aren't personal attacks when you are the one who typed your posts and sent them for us to read.

You lack so much mentally, you can't even keep your ownself accountable, but rather blame it on Satan for manipulating you.

Satan didn't manipulate you, you are your own personal deception.

Satan, is just sitting back letting you self implode by your own doing, not his or any other entity.
 

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Your unsubstantiated posts and reasoning are the proofs.

One thread Jesus is limited by you and in another its the Father not Holy Spirit that gives the Utterance to Speaking in Tongues to views that your thoughts cannot be held accountable to yourself because you believe Satan can manipulate you, someone claiming to be Saved, and then you turn around and claim the Bible is outdated and Science is truth.

You even admitted your own personal friends disagree with your views on the Bible and they're true blue Christians.

You have provided us with all of these mental ramblings within past couple months and wonder how we could put it all together and figure you out.

These aren't personal attacks when you are the one who typed your posts and sent them for us to read.

You lack so much mentally, you can't even keep your ownself accountable, but rather blame it on Satan for manipulating you.

Satan didn't manipulate you, you are your own personal deception.

Satan, is just sitting back letting you self implode by your own doing, not his or any other entity.
what a total misrepresentation of why I fight for science.

And a load more miss representation..

character assassination seems to quite common with you.

Speaking in tongues

The trinity

Hormonal defect

Science

Are all discussions that really only God truly knows

To use questions I have raised in theese fields against me ,

Is a true testament to your ever increasing ignorance.

And you still fail to account for children born as eunuchs.

It's far easier for you to bash what don't understand.

Anyway I hope your happy with your latest fill today.

May You find peace soon 😊
 

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This wickedness is killing people, and westerm culture promotes it.
It has crept into every corner of our culture from miss Netherlands is a man, to girl sports, and restrooms. Its on tv and radio and its in public schools and libraries. Its evil and is claiming many lives. You have on more than one occasion blamed Christians for these deaths rather than sin and satan, saying that ot isnour condemnation ofnthis evil that causes the death. No. It is cultural promotion and imposing of this wickedness on younh people and accepting the sin that has caised it to spread and kill more and more.
why is it none of you have acknowledged how a transgender can be born an eunuch as quoted by Jesus , but you take your route first.


How can you contribute all what you've write here in one direction.

And then at the same time use what you write here to prove I have a fault. That's sadistic



I said telling a transgender born with defects is there fault could cause them to commit suicide.

Your just another character assassination person

May you find peace soon too.
 
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why is it none of you have acknowledged how a transgender can be born an eunuch as quoted by Jesus , but you take your route first.
because, we know if we explain it how God means it you will not accept it. so, we're shaking the dust off our feet at you. but, i will tell you exactly what Matthew 19:12 means.


this is an ANSWER to the question about Divorce. And God tells us He's against divorce. so he mentions reasons why people don't get married, in form of Eunuchs.

1. the Eunuch born is not without sexual organs, they are lacking Sexual Desire

2. the castrated Eunuch is castrated when he serves Kings and Queens so he won't be Tempted to have Sex and can be TRUSTWORTHY

3. the Christian Eunuch is castrated from the world and keeps their Sexual Desires under control because they're Followers of God.


But YOU, think, being born Eunuch is having no penis.

Nowhere, is Jesus saying that about an answer to DIVORCE!


just like your typical THREADS, you pick ONE SINGLE VERSE, and many many many HERE have specifically brought this up to you, but you will BUILD an entire IMAGINARY SCENARIO off one Verse and then spend weeks debating it.

that's called a severe Psychological ILLNESS!

and when we say, READ the whole Story, Verses Before and After, you're response is, you just don't want to see it ""my way.""

No, I DO NOT want to see how anything that is so SEVERELY TWISTED be presented as Truth, EVER!
 

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because, we know if we explain it how God means it you will not accept it. so, we're shaking the dust off our feet at you. but, i will tell you exactly what Matthew 19:12 means.


this is an ANSWER to the question about Divorce. And God tells us He's against divorce. so he mentions reasons why people don't get married, in form of Eunuchs.

1. the Eunuch born is not without sexual organs, they are lacking Sexual Desire

2. the castrated Eunuch is castrated when he serves Kings and Queens so he won't be Tempted to have Sex and can be TRUSTWORTHY

3. the Christian Eunuch is castrated from the world and keeps their Sexual Desires under control because they're Followers of God.


But YOU, think, being born Eunuch is having no penis.

Nowhere, is Jesus saying that about an answer to DIVORCE!


just like your typical THREADS, you pick ONE SINGLE VERSE, and many many many HERE have specifically brought this up to you, but you will BUILD an entire IMAGINARY SCENARIO off one Verse and then spend weeks debating it.

that's called a severe Psychological ILLNESS!

and when we say, READ the whole Story, Verses Before and After, you're response is, you just don't want to see it ""my way.""

No, I DO NOT want to see how anything that is so SEVERELY TWISTED be presented as Truth, EVER!
I saw the word you used ten times here.


Your claims are not substantiated with modern day medical science with enuchs, medical science show enuchs have a lower sex drive but not none all together,

But more so they have a higher sex drive at puberty.

So once again I will remind you where talking about child eunuchs here.

If you now have a valid point to make

Make it.

But don't use your valid point to say I have this or that wrong with me for not accepting your much superior intellect, which is bordering on a severe embarrassing disorder of stupidly
 
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I saw the word you used ten times here.


Your claims are not substantiated with modern day medical science with enuchs, medical science show enuchs have a lower sex drive but not none all together,
i said: 1. the Eunuch born is not without sexual organs, they are lacking Sexual Desire

i will clarify and amend with what they have LOW Sexual Desire. LOW, is just 1 step above Lacking. who cares, it keeps them many times from being married [like Jesus SAID] because married people like SEX! God, encourages married couples to LIKE and ENJOY SEX! Eunuchs don't fit the parameters being described here, enjoying Married Sex.


other than that, outside of one word [LOW] , your argument is a moot point.
 
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created a post over the difference between low and lacking, incredible!

134 Synonyms & Antonyms of LACKING
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Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com › thesaurus › lacking
Synonyms for LACKING: insufficient, scarce, inadequate, low, deficient, short, wanting, unacceptable; Antonyms of LACKING: adequate, sufficient, enough



hey LOOK, LACKING, can also mean LOW ^

you really are nothing, but an INFANT, throwing a tantrum!
 

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created a post over the difference between low and lacking, incredible!

134 Synonyms & Antonyms of LACKING
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Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com › thesaurus › lacking
Synonyms for LACKING: insufficient, scarce, inadequate, low, deficient, short, wanting, unacceptable; Antonyms of LACKING: adequate, sufficient, enough



hey LOOK, LACKING, can also mean LOW ^

you really are nothing, but an INFANT, throwing a tantrum!
The law was written on tablets of stone by the finger of God (Ex. 31:18). When Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger, he was communicating, “It was my finger that wrote the law!” Today, as we point our finger at others and condemn them, we play God, taking His place as the lawgiver

ex 31:18
When the Lord finished speaking to Moses on Mount Sinai, he gave him the two tablets of the covenant law, the tablets of stone inscribed by the finger of God.


we must express love for the lost and broken ❤️
 

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i said: 1. the Eunuch born is not without sexual organs, they are lacking Sexual Desire

i will clarify and amend with what they have LOW Sexual Desire. LOW, is just 1 step above Lacking. who cares, it keeps them many times from being married [like Jesus SAID] because married people like SEX! God, encourages married couples to LIKE and ENJOY SEX! Eunuchs don't fit the parameters being described here, enjoying Married Sex.


other than that, outside of one word [LOW] , your argument is a moot point.
there Is hormone drugs theese days to balance there unbalanced hormone out for people born with mixed intersex chromosomes that they take from children.

Do they balance there sexual gender out to ?

Or there sexual identity
 
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The law was written on tablets of stone by the finger of God (Ex. 31:18). When Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger, he was communicating, “It was my finger that wrote the law!” Today, as we point our finger at others and condemn them, we play God, taking His place as the lawgiver

ex 31:18
When the Lord finished speaking to Moses on Mount Sinai, he gave him the two tablets of the covenant law, the tablets of stone inscribed by the finger of God.


we must express love for the lost and broken ❤️
here's a box of kleenex, i am pretty sure you will be needing them soon!

 
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there Is hormone drugs theese days to balance there unbalanced hormone out for people born with mixed intersex chromosomes that they take from children.

Do they balance there sexual gender out to ?

Or there sexual identity
if Adam never sinned.
sin never entered the human genome and dna.
would there be these kinds of issues today?

NO!

Medical Science, has no ability to determine Sin and its Effects.
They can Label and Assume, but they have no ability to understand nor thwart the advancement of Sin that currently exists in the Levels it exists within humanity and this current world.

so, don't offer me proofs that are not proofs because Sin cannot be examined, only the results, of SIN, can be.
 

Fundaamental

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if Adam never sinned.
sin never entered the human genome and dna.
would there be these kinds of issues today?

NO!

Medical Science, has no ability to determine Sin and its Effects.
They can Label and Assume, but they have no ability to understand nor thwart the advancement of Sin that currently exists in the Levels it exists within humanity and this current world.

so, don't offer me proofs that are not proofs because Sin cannot be examined, only the results, of SIN, can be.
it's always a concern for me when people point the finger at Adam.

You should use those tissues to rap your fingers up 😋