The court ruling on LGBT ENDS THIS DEBATE

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Genesis 49.4 according to biblical sources based on original translations is related to incest.
you defined incest as "an act committed by family members of equal blood" in your Post 283.

I have provided Scriptural proof that Reuben was not related to Bilhah by blood.

You either believe what is written in Scripture or you reject what is written in Scripture.


Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive
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you defined incest as "an act committed by family members of equal blood" in your Post 283.

I have provided Scriptural proof that Reuben was not related to Bilhah by blood.

You either believe what is written in Scripture or you reject what is written in Scripture.


Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive
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like i said take it up with who ever started the discussion about the sexual sins of Sodom and gamora,

Because I'm really not really that interested being a law giver.

Or getting into an argument about what they where upto in sodom

I've made my point about why I'm involved in this discussion.

And I'm going to leave it there.

But thanks for your input.

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well you can spout your numbers of all you like I trust our NHS service and the advice of NHS doctors, who don't do the operations themselfs, but have enough expert knowledged to know when a person is eligible to be considered for gender identity correction.

Or gender identity change
I trust "NHS service and the advice of NHS doctors" to protect their careers through taxpayer funded grants.

And I note that you state "a person is eligible to be considered for gender identity correction" ... not that a person has a life-threatening illness.

And what needs "correction" is the notion that God did not know what He was doing when He made them male and female ... what needs "correction" is the notion that removing fully functioning and healthy body parts and subjecting folks to a lifetime of continuous pharmaceutical treatment is helping someone with gender dysphoria ...

FOLLOW THE MONEY, Fundaamental ...

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
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I'm going to have to stop you right here.

The courts of law and modern day science based on proven medical facts has made the case for sex change not me.

The child teenager hasn't made the case for a sex change either.

Your not a young teenager going through sexual identity crisis niether.

You don't have the right to choose a persons sexual identity where a child has mixed intersex chromosomes cells either.

Modern day law permits the child teenager to let the child decide at the age of accountability.
Do you follow God or man? Do you think God cares what man decided based on their knowledge? He has made it clear where he stands on this
 

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yeah the mating with angels crap.

Don't buy it sorry

That more perverse thinking than a poor child going through sexual identity crisis in my book.
It is literally written in the word of God you don't buy what is written and call it crap? Are you kidding me?
 

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It is literally written in the word of God you don't buy what is written and call it crap? Are you kidding me?
sorry not interested in this discussion blain

I have my reasons from scripture as to why.


And in not going to disclose what they are.
 

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Do you follow God or man? Do you think God cares what man decided based on their knowledge? He has made it clear where he stands on this
hey blain take it up with God 😊
 

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sorry not interested in this discussion blain

I have my reasons from scripture as to why.


And in not going to disclose what they are.
if you have reasons from scripturre then why do fear revealing it? you can't exepct people to be reasoned with about your stance if you cannot provide evidence of any kind the things your saying go against scripture and if you want to dodge this so be it but i'm warning you this a dangerous path to go on if my friendship means anything to you please turn back from this and solidfy what the word of God says not what man says.
 

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if you have reasons from scripturre then why do fear revealing it? you can't exepct people to be reasoned with about your stance if you cannot provide evidence of any kind the things your saying go against scripture and if you want to dodge this so be it but i'm warning you this a dangerous path to go on if my friendship means anything to you please turn back from this and solidfy what the word of God says not what man says.
like I said take it up with God blain

I'm sure he will speak for me.

But lets be honest here do the courts of law make a decision on whether they should grant a person a sex identity change, based on our ancestors may have mated with the angel crap theory.

Or do they take into account Jesus said there are people born with Genital defects.

Or do they base it on proven medical evidence a person has mixed intersex cells.

Or a person has been born with mixed sexual organs.

Or a persons mental state of well being was at risk so the judge granted them there wish because they feel there sexual identity is opposite to what they where labeled with at birth.

Or how they conduct them selfs.

Or how they have made there feeling known public for a year or more.

Which is it blain

Do you know.

Because I'm tired of this discussion
 

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like I said take it up with God blain

I'm sure he will speak for me.

But lets be honest here do the courts of law make a decision on whether they should grant a person a sex identity change, based on our ancestors may have mated with the angel crap theory.

Or do they take into account Jesus said there are people born with Genital defects.

Or do they base it on proven medical evidence a person has mixed intersex cells.

Or a person has been born with mixed sexual organs.

Or a persons mental state of well being was at risk so the judge granted them there wish because they feel there sexual identity is opposite to what they where labeled with at birth.

Or how they conduct them selfs.

Or how they have made there feeling known public for a year or more.

Which is it blain

Do you know.

Because I'm tired of this discussion
Where did Jesus say people were born with genetic defects? and also everything else as far as science goes yes science prroves the defects in the genetic code lots of research have been done inspecting it and it is not a theory of the seed it is literally written plain and simple look at the sotry of adam and eve again look at the mating with the sons of God the giants that roamed the lands.

I have no doubt feeling like you are not the gender you are is hard but that is what God is for he reveals who you really are and no he doesnt support you on this that is why I said he was distrubed and I am sorry but it doesn't matter what mans understanding of science or their laws or the feelings of people are God's word is law and he doesn't giver permission to change his temple where can you find any scripture even one that supportys what your saying?

Where does God ever say anything good about such things? he openly condemns it and your only using mans laws the feelings and troubles of people and science throwing away and calling his word crap and that is not just because it doesn't fit what you want doesn't make it crap or a theory it written right there read it again.
 
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Jesus said there are people born with Genital defects.
The Lord Jesus Christ also said ...

Matthew 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female

do you believe Him?
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The Lord Jesus Christ also said ...

Matthew 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female

do you believe Him?
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which begining are you talking about ?

There's the beginning befor the fall

After the fall

Then there's the new begining from Noah.

This scripture has swat to do with someone being born with mixed sex organs.

And if it has it could imply he made us that way but things have changed and It's not his fault because he made us female and male.

Anyway asking me if I think the bible is lie is another one of your crappy comments.

And you won't intimidate me.

Take it up with God.
 

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which begining are you talking about ?

There's the beginning befor the fall

After the fall

Then there's the new begining from Noah.

This scripture has swat to do with someone being born with mixed sex organs.

And if it has it could imply he made us that way but things have changed and It's not his fault because he made us female and male.

Anyway asking me if I think the bible is lie is another one of your crappy comments.

And you won't intimidate me.

Take it up with God.
Things have changed God doesn't
 

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it is clear you have personal feelings involved in this but you are putting your own feelings and thoughts above what is written you can try to rationalize it any way you want but being born with defects is not a gender issue God has made clear his stance on the matter and you are saying take up with God when your not doing anything with God on this it's all about mans mindset mans law science and obviously you haven't learned yet to understand that you might be wrong everyone here can show you every scripture that says otherwise what you are saying


So let me ask you again do you follow God or do you follow man because if your going to denounce the word of God and claim what science and what mans law says and go on about genetic defects which do not have anything to do with gender.

Do you know what science says makes a male or female? The x and y Chromosomes those cannot be altered and are set once you are born.
 

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So because a women doesn't shave her armpits is that supposed to mean something? this was confusing what was it supposed to mean?
whatever you want it to.

It was called a funny joke

But when you read into theese things you see all sorts of suspicions arising

Imagine that 🤔

But the theory is it took a man to make a woman.

As in Adam and Eve imagine that.
 

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it is clear you have personal feelings involved in this but you are putting your own feelings and thoughts above what is written you can try to rationalize it any way you want but being born with defects is not a gender issue God has made clear his stance on the matter and you are saying take up with God when your not doing anything with God on this it's all about mans mindset mans law science and obviously you haven't learned yet to understand that you might be wrong everyone here can show you every scripture that says otherwise what you are saying


So let me ask you again do you follow God or do you follow man because if your going to denounce the word of God and claim what science and what mans law says and go on about genetic defects which do not have anything to do with gender.

Do you know what science says makes a male or female? The x and y Chromosomes those cannot be altered and are set once you are born.
our friendship is officially over good bye.
 

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whatever you want it to.

It was called a funny joke

But when you read into theese things you see all sorts of suspicions arising

Imagine that 🤔

But the theory is it took a man to make a woman.

As in Adam and Eve imagine that.
Well he said it was a very large women but there are plenty opf women who are bigger and taller than other people she had hariyt armpiuts so yeah one might asssume o\h its a man but again the narrator said it was a women if it was a man then he would be lying in the video.

But even so I suppose it dependas on your mindset, one might instantly see red flags but I suppose I just don't see like that.