The court ruling on LGBT ENDS THIS DEBATE

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HeIsHere

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Paul had the same problem with sin. He was helpless against the pressure of it apart from Christ.

But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25 I thank God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!

This delivery is available to all who turn to Christ,
That's interesting because Paul is presenting the Christian experience not the one of the unbeliever.

He is speaking about the struggle in Christ.

On the other hand we have clear choice presented in Romans 1:27.
 

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That's interesting because Paul is presenting the Christian experience not the one of the unbeliever.

He is speaking about the struggle in Christ.

On the other hand we have clear choice presented in Romans 1:27.
No. Paul is talking from the perspective of one who is under the law of sin and death (which includes all on the earth) and the liberty of one under the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus. His summation is in the next chapter.:

For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son

My point is this: claiming that one cannot help but be homosexual is not an excuse to continue in sin. They may turn to Christ and be set free.
 
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The court ruling on LGBT ENDS THIS DEBATE
I believe the courts should rule that a person’s gender is the gender stated on one’s birth certificate and the gender classification cannot be changed, period, nada, zip, never.
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I agree, but hermaphrodite should included.
 

Fundaamental

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No. Paul is talking from the perspective of one who is under the law of sin and death (which includes all on the earth) and the liberty of one under the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus. His summation is in the next chapter.:

For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son

My point is this: claiming that one cannot help but be homosexual is not an excuse to continue in sin. They may turn to Christ and be set free.
being gay is not a sin it's the act of having sexual gay relations that is a sin.

For the simple reason, if your going to class thoughts as a sin and living in sin then where all going to hell.
 

Fundaamental

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No proof of any of that. Being gay is a choice. We choose to sin or obey God. God wouldn't say being gay is an abomination, a very serious judgement, when a person couldn't help it or it was a defect. Homosexuality is sin and it is a choice.
So let's say a female sharing the lower half of the body with a male through defect birth, decides she no longer wants male genitals on her lower half of her body.

But the judge decides he can not allow them to be removed without the male heads consent,

Would the judge be encouraging the female to live in sin ?.

Or better still should the judge put to death the female , or God for that matter.
 
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the picture doesn't show is the invisible defects you don't see.
do you know for a fact whether the chromosomes are XY (male) or XX (female)? yes or no.




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The female head has to put up with male genitals.
do you know for a fact that there are "male genitals" ...

I see a photo where one appears to have a longer hairstyle and the other appears to have a shorter hairstyle.

I have no idea of the genitalia ... do you???



I provided several links which indicate that conjoined twins are the result of an identical twin pregnancy ... the chromosomes will be either XY or XX in both twins.

Do you know if the photo you provided is the result of fraternal twins (two eggs fertilized by two sperm resulting in two embryos each of which form in his or her own amniotic sac)?

and please consider ... then both embryos would have had to break through his or her own amniotic sac (can an embryo even survive outside the amniotic sac???) in order to fuse with the other embryo ... or one of the embryos would have to break through his or her own sac as well as the amniotic sac of the other embryo in order to fuse together. you're asking a lot of the two embryos if you are going with the notion that they are fraternal twins ... just sayin'
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do you know for a fact whether the chromosomes are XY (male) or XX (female)? yes or no.





do you know for a fact that there are "male genitals" ...

I see a photo where one appears to have a longer hairstyle and the other appears to have a shorter hairstyle.

I have no idea of the genitalia ... do you???



I provided several links which indicate that conjoined twins are the result of an identical twin pregnancy ... the chromosomes will be either XY or XX in both twins.

Do you know if the photo you provided is the result of fraternal twins (two eggs fertilized by two sperm resulting in two embryos each of which form in his or her own amniotic sac)?

and please consider ... then both embryos would have had to break through his or her own amniotic sac (can an embryo even survive outside the amniotic sac???) in order to fuse with the other embryo ... or one of the embryos would have to break through his or her own sac as well as the amniotic sac of the other embryo in order to fuse together. you're asking a lot of the two embryos if you are going with the notion that they are fraternal twins ... just sayin'
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well the lower part of the body will either have one or the other, what difference does it make which way round it is, one will feel inadequate either way.

The others picture shows to two people with having to whole upper bodies,

But one lower body,

There body is going to be sharing one chromosome somewhere.

Or Even both could control movent of there arms or legs,

If they decide to drive a car for instance one head would have to say let me do the steering.


Or let's say they get an itch
Both heads would feal an itch at the same time.

To say that one chromosome wouldnt be effected by the opposite sex chromosomes, would seem a guess to me.
 

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actually there's something you've not taken to consideration, Abby and Brittany are real, twins born joined at the hip.
But what would you say if Abby came out with a man's head and Brittany a female. Ie a male and female that got joined at the hip inside the womb.
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its called a birth defect and is not normal. That is what is is.
 

CS1

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And here they are, what should be the ruling for male and female sharing the same body



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Jesu was asked by Peter I believe in context to a man born with a birth defect

John9:2-5

“Rabbi,” his disciples asked him, “why was this man born blind? Was it because of his own sins or his parents’ sins?”

3It was not because of his sins or his parents’ sins,” Jesus answered. This happened so the power of God could be seen in him. 4We must quickly carry out the tasks assigned us by the one who sent us.a The night is coming, and then no one can work. 5But while I am here in the world, I am the light of the world.”
 

Fundaamental

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its called a birth defect and is not normal. That is what is is.
somebody wanting to be transgender is not normal, could that not be down to birth defect.

To be honest I'm deeply concerned for human nature and the human mind.

I've seen a lot of documentaries on birth defects, and it's so disheartening what they go through.

It's even more disheartening when you hear a gay person who is gay as there own fault.

Or when tragedies like conjoined twins which proves birth defects are just dismissed that don't happen in the form of birth defects for Gays or transgenders.
 

Fundaamental

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Jesu was asked by Peter I believe in context to a man born with a birth defect

John9:2-5

“Rabbi,” his disciples asked him, “why was this man born blind? Was it because of his own sins or his parents’ sins?”

3It was not because of his sins or his parents’ sins,” Jesus answered. This happened so the power of God could be seen in him. 4We must quickly carry out the tasks assigned us by the one who sent us.a The night is coming, and then no one can work. 5But while I am here in the world, I am the light of the world.”.
This speaks of a blind person, that got cured if in not mistaken.

Where is the glory to To God for conjoined twins who can't be healed.

Besides this when science proves gay people can go gay as a result of birth defects which they will,

And then science provides a cure in the form of meds or DNA remapping.

Will people here confess there sins for lack of compassion shown

Or even reverse there statement for false accusations.

I doubt it.

So let's see a mean spirited person in this thread has complained to cc and you've decide to take his view point.

I see you gave the thumbs down straight away again.

And no doubt you'll be giving him the thumbs up soon.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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So let's say a female sharing the lower half of the body with a male through defect birth, decides she no longer wants male genitals on her lower half of her body.

But the judge decides he can not allow them to be removed without the male heads consent,

Would the judge be encouraging the female to live in sin ?.

Or better still should the judge put to death the female , or God for that matter.
A birth defect is not the same as a man in a beard throwing on a skirt and tucking his nether regions between his legs and demanding to use womens bathrooms and showers. I do not care what people want to do with their bodies, I don't care what they want to call themselves, I don't care if they want to be in sports. Hack your body to pieces if you're that stupid, have at it. But I do not have to call you a dame, I don't have to recognize you want to be be a dame, I don't want you in the same restroom I go to and women should have to share a shower with you. Nor should a woman risk severe injury because you're a loser in men's sports and want to take over womens sports. You don't need a tampon, you don't get cramps, I'm not playing your game. If anyone else went in to a doctors office and asked for a limb to be removed, and some do, they get help for those people, because they're not right. Same goes for men who think they are women or the other way round. Two genders. Period.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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This speaks of a blind person, that got cured if in not mistaken.

Where is the glory to To God for conjoined twins who can't be healed.

Besides this when science proves gay people can go gay as a result of birth defects which they will,

And then science provides a cure in the form of meds or DNA remapping.

Will people here confess there sins for lack of compassion shown

Or even reverse there statement for false accusations.

I doubt it.

So let's see a mean spirited person in this thread has complained to cc and you've decide to take his view point.

I see you gave the thumbs down straight away again.

And no doubt you'll be giving him the thumbs up soon.
You don't believe in the Word, there's the door. None of us will miss you. God does not change. He doesn't say something is a sin and then go "Woops what was I thinkin' how homophobic of me". Get a grip. God calls it a sin. He created two genders. End of the story. Argue till you're black and blue, won't change God's mind. You want to lie to people and tell them they are safe in their sin, go on ahead. But don't you dare call that compassion!!!
 

Fundaamental

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You don't believe in the Word, there's the door. None of us will miss you. God does not change. He doesn't say something is a sin and then go "Woops what was I thinkin' how homophobic of me". Get a grip. God calls it a sin. He created two genders. End of the story. Argue till you're black and blue, won't change God's mind. You want to lie to people and tell them they are safe in their sin, go on ahead. But don't you dare call that compassion!!!
absolutely false dogma once again with no remorse for your hate speech here

I'm sure you going to gain favour from some here for hate speech towards sinners, but not of me you won't, and one day God will say I remember you when you though of your self as more highly, and said thank God I'm not like that man.

Your drenched in sin here

And not somebody I would consider a friend in Christ,
No where have I promoted living in sin.

and I won't be responding to this crap much longer from you.
 

Fundaamental

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A birth defect is not the same as a man in a beard throwing on a skirt and tucking his nether regions between his legs and demanding to use womens bathrooms and showers. I do not care what people want to do with their bodies, I don't care what they want to call themselves, I don't care if they want to be in sports. Hack your body to pieces if you're that stupid, have at it. But I do not have to call you a dame, I don't have to recognize you want to be be a dame, I don't want you in the same restroom I go to and women should have to share a shower with you. Nor should a woman risk severe injury because you're a loser in men's sports and want to take over womens sports. You don't need a tampon, you don't get cramps, I'm not playing your game. If anyone else went in to a doctors office and asked for a limb to be removed, and some do, they get help for those people, because they're not right. Same goes for men who think they are women or the other way round. Two genders. Period.
total hate speech congratulations painting all gays with the same brush

Give your self a round of applause,, here's your friend
 

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absolutely false dogma once again with no remorse for your hate speech here
Any time Christians speak out against sin, wickedness, and evil, it is called "hate speech". But when the real haters call Christians all kinds of names (including Domestic Terrorists or worse), then that is perfectly fine. So you have decide whether Christian truth is hate speech or do you prefer to side with the real haters?
 

Fundaamental

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Any time Christians speak out against sin, wickedness, and evil, it is called "hate speech". But when the real haters call Christians all kinds of names (including Domestic Terrorists or worse), then that is perfectly fine. So you have decide whether Christian truth is hate speech or do you prefer to side with the real haters?
in more concerned for hate speeches who choose to accuse me of living in sin.

I don't care what here bitter heart thinks about gays.

My heart's says stay away from your crap too.
 

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Besides this when science proves gay people can go gay as a result of birth defects which they will,
You make broad sweeping claims and provide no proof so we can disregard these assertions.

But what I really want to know is do you regard pedophilia in the same way?