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CS1

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What did Jesus do? Tell them how much he loves them? By the Law He convicted them of sin and then granted them repentance which is confession and absolution
What I am saying is from what I see Jesus do in the Gospels account is :

He said your sins are forgiven yet did not say what their sin was. It was obvious. It was meeting Jesus that made the difference :

  1. the woman at the well met Jesus before Jesus said to her how many husbands she had
  2. the blind man heard Jesus was Near and cried out to him
  3. the lame man's friends brought him to Jesus
  4. the woman to be stoned because her sin was said by people, not Jesus


It was Nicodemus that Jesus said, "You must be born again".


I have led many to the Lord, and I have seen many healed and continued on with their lifestyle as if They did not remember what Jesus did for them, as many did to Jesus like the 10 lepers.

It is the Gospel message that is the Power of God. That is what Paul said he was not ashamed of. What is the gospel message?

The word gospel means “good news,”



In the apostle Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians, he lays out the content of the gospel message, “Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance:


1. that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
2. that he was buried,
3. that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures” (1 Corinthians 15:1–4).




Most know they have sinned yet do not know how to get rid of it or met the one who can remove it.
 

CS1

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What did Jesus do? Tell them how much he loves them? By the Law He convicted them of sin and then granted them repentance which is confession and absolution
Jesus showed them how much he loved them. :) did it many times without words
 

Fundaamental

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I noticed that you keep leaving out a word that i keep using, "unrepentant". Yeah, that word changes everything. Unrepentant means that they are made aware of their evil and its destructive nature, and refuse to be corrected.
You keep leaving that word out because you are a deciever attempting to conflate my words.
You you you bla bla bla they them this that.

Bla bla bla
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Just Another blanket statement from somebody who doesn't knows what it's like to be gay there whole life.
And niether do i


let's say somebody who's gay gives there life to the lord, is it going to stop them still thinking there Gay.

Fantasy is also a thought that can cross your mind.

It may not be a desire from the heart. It may be a thought that creped into your mind because somebody else suggested it to you

And it took along time for that thought to leave your mind where by you imagined all sorts because it came from a friend.

So how do you truly distinguish thoughts from fantasy

Because you say ?.

Or because you want to paint gay people as immoral, even tho they may not be having immoral sex any more.

Or they think there gay because of thoughts.

Who's judgment is it yours.

And again what about the sexual damage kid who knows no better.

Is it there fault to ? did God create them to be messed about with.

Besides all this crap even if one Judge does block transgender operations the person will find some country that allows it if they truly want it.

Even then they could still come to Christ afterwards.

It that Encouragement on my part or is that stating the obvious.

I agree with you about feminizing chemicals being a factor that can cause damage to the body BTW.

A. Chemical pesticides used in agriculture cause feminization of male frogs. We can only speculate what it does to people.

B. There are plasticizers, chemicals that make plastic pliable, that mimic estrogen.
That's why I only drink from stainless steel, glass, ceramic containers. I have the world's most effective water purifier that removes all chemicals to undetectable measurements. I use a well rather than city tap water that comes from the river and has over 100 chemicals added. Perhaps I will be able to make them available to others some day.

C. The heavy use of pharmaceutical drugs in children has had serious consequences. The injections of vaccines can damage the neurological system and make them into lifetime drug customers. Some of those drugs, like amphetamines, stunt development.

D. Soy boys is a term that was coined because agriculture knows that soy makes men effeminate and unbalances women's hormones. Soy is only one reason that many young men lose masculine characteristics. Soy bean meal and oil is not fit for human or animal consumption, yet has become ubiquitous in human food and animal feed industries. The Glyphosate used in 99% of all soy beans makes things much worse and should be listed separately.

E. Testosterone levels of older men who have eliminated these factors and are healthy exceeds that of men in their twenties.

All of these reasons and others are contributing factors to the loss of masculinity, but not the cause of Sodomy.
 
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Just Another blanket statement from somebody who doesn't knows what it's like to be gay there whole life.
And niether do i


let's say somebody who's gay gives there life to the lord, is it going to stop them still thinking there Gay.

Fantasy is also a thought that can cross your mind.

It may not be a desire from the heart. It may be a thought that creped into your mind because somebody else suggested it to you

And it took along time for that thought to leave your mind where by you imagined all sorts because it came from a friend.

So how do you truly distinguish thoughts from fantasy

Because you say ?.

Or because you want to paint gay people as immoral, even tho they may not be having immoral sex any more.

Or they think there gay because of thoughts.

Who's judgment is it yours.

And again what about the sexual damage kid who knows no better.

Is it there fault to ? did God create them to be messed about with.

Besides all this crap even if one Judge does block transgender operations the person will find some country that allows it if they truly want it.

Even then they could still come to Christ afterwards.

It that Encouragement on my part or is that stating the obvious.
I know my brother and his man wife and their 200 closest friends from the gay porn business. I know your answers because I ask them but you're too much in denial to comprehend.

You, on the other hand Don't know squat.
 

Fundaamental

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I know my brother and his man wife and their 200 closest friends from the gay porn business. I know your answers because I ask them but you're too much in denial to comprehend.

You, on the other hand Don't know squat.
You know doesn't you are them

Bla bla bla.
 

Fundaamental

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I agree with you about feminizing chemicals being a factor that can cause damage to the body BTW.

A. Chemical pesticides used in agriculture cause feminization of male frogs. We can only speculate what it does to people.

B. There are plasticizers, chemicals that make plastic pliable, that mimic estrogen.
That's why I only drink from stainless steel, glass, ceramic containers. I have the world's most effective water purifier that removes all chemicals to undetectable measurements. I use a well rather than city tap water that comes from the river and has over 100 chemicals added. Perhaps I will be able to make them available to others some day.

C. The heavy use of pharmaceutical drugs in children has had serious consequences. The injections of vaccines can damage the neurological system and make them into lifetime drug customers. Some of those drugs, like amphetamines, stunt development.

D. Soy boys is a term that was coined because agriculture knows that soy makes men effeminate and unbalances women's hormones. Soy is only one reason that many young men lose masculine characteristics. Soy bean meal and oil is not fit for human or animal consumption, yet has become ubiquitous in human food and animal feed industries. The Glyphosate used in 99% of all soy beans makes things much worse and should be listed separately.

E. Testosterone levels of older men who have eliminated these factors and are healthy exceeds that of men in their twenties.

All of these reasons and others are contributing factors to the loss of masculinity, but not the cause of Sodomy.
you see all that but then neglect mental awareness, because I can't see anything other than a disease to the mind for sodomy,

It's a groce act that any normal person wouldn't do.

But then what about Alzheimer's should we say that's not related to personal choice.

Or the person drunk to the skunk committing a groce sexual act or a drunken couple doing things they wouldn't normally do.

Or the female who turns to love from another female because of abuse from men

Then theres date rape drugs, who knows what they do afterwards to a mind.

There something called ecstasy drugs that can leave a person in a vegetated state for years even put them in a wheel chair

All disease of the mind.

Then there's people who have strokes never to be the same again.

Then there's abused children's who re act there child hood abuse in the form of sodomy.

All sickness of the mind.

It's even thought when abused child re acts it there in a traumatised state.

All of which i know from from a close friend who is a doctor and a friend who is a police officer.

Yeah it's all sickness alright.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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you see all that but then neglect mental awareness, because I can't see anything other than a disease to the mind for sodomy,

It's a groce act that any normal person wouldn't do.

But then what about Alzheimer's should we say that's not related to personal choice.

Or the person drunk to the skunk committing a groce sexual act or a drunken couple doing things they wouldn't normally do.

Or the female who turns to love from another female because of abuse from men

Then theres date rape drugs, who knows what they do afterwards to a mind.

There something called ecstasy drugs that can leave a person in a vegetated state for years even put them in a wheel chair

All disease of the mind.

Then there's people who have strokes never to be the same again.

Then there's abused children's who re act there child hood abuse in the form of sodomy.

All sickness of the mind.

It's even thought when abused child re acts it there in a traumatised state.

All of which i know from from a close friend who is a doctor and a friend who is a police officer.

Yeah it's all sickness alright.
I think those are contributing factors.
For instance a drunkin state that some teen regretted later is different from those who reject God and fall under the list in Romans 1. The Romans 1, Genesis 19 and Judges 19 Sodomites seek out weak victims like children and try to get others so drunk they become more susceptible to those crimes.
That doesn't mean that the victims burn in their lusts towards that practice.

The majority, such as the tranny in the video I posted, are considered reprobate by God. He rejects them and warns us about them. We should protect our families from those creatures.
 

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I think those are contributing factors.
For instance a drunkin state that some teen regretted later is different from those who reject God and fall under the list in Romans 1. The Romans 1, Genesis 19 and Judges 19 Sodomites seek out weak victims like children and try to get others so drunk they become more susceptible to those crimes.
That doesn't mean that the victims burn in their lusts towards that practice.

The majority, such as the tranny in the video I posted, are considered reprobate by God. He rejects them and warns us about them. We should protect our families from those creatures.
and the child who doesn't open up about there childhood abuse, and isn't guided into knowing what happend wasn't there fault. Who then goes on to be tranny.

Because why ?.

Well they never knew Jesus.

Or how Satan could manipulate there mind into not knowing Jesus

telling them somehow it was all there fault there's no need to feel ashamed all that crap.

Is there such thing as a sinner whos been forgiven to keep on being made to feal ashamed.

No because that the whole point of the church.
Regardless of there sin we have to let people know Jesus loves them before they can led by the father to Christ.

Otherwise we are guilty of sin ourselves.

And we have to mature to accept all sin however sickening it may be.
 

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I think those are contributing factors.
For instance a drunkin state that some teen regretted later is different from those who reject God and fall under the list in Romans 1. The Romans 1, Genesis 19 and Judges 19 Sodomites seek out weak victims like children and try to get others so drunk they become more susceptible to those crimes.
That doesn't mean that the victims burn in their lusts towards that practice.

The majority, such as the tranny in the video I posted, are considered reprobate by God. He rejects them and warns us about them. We should protect our families from those creatures.
reprobate as far as I'm aware is punishent for people who have known Christ.

Can a reprobate be punishent or permanent.
I have no idea, could it be severe warning that it could be permanent unless such people change.

But would a saved person truly commit abominable acts

I do know God can chastise his children and punish them on earth.
 

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and the child who doesn't open up about there childhood abuse, and isn't guided into knowing what happend wasn't there fault. Who then goes on to be tranny.
Because why ?.

Well they never knew Jesus.

Or how Satan could manipulate there mind into not knowing Jesus

telling them somehow it was all there fault there's no need to feel ashamed all that crap.

Is there such thing as a sinner whos been forgiven to keep on being made to feal ashamed.

No because that the whole point of the church.
Regardless of there sin we have to let people know Jesus loves them before they can led by the father to Christ.

Otherwise we are guilty of sin ourselves.

And we have to mature to accept all sin however sickening it may be.

I can't speak for all children who went through that trauma, but my best friend Michael did before he was 11.
I saw him and his little sister at the end of the street trying to untie a rope from the guard rail. I asked what he was doing?
He told me that the neighborhood queer queer was climbing the hill just past the Dead End. He explained how he got hold of them and what he did.
So I reached into my pocket for my knife. Unfortunately, it was gone! I forgot to carry my knife that day! Lesson learned, a boy should always carry his knife because there are days he will need it and not have it.

Guess what? Michael never dressed up as a woman for Halloween like that Sodomite.
We were normal boys that played football on the playground called Smear the Queer. None of the teachers scolded us as being insensitive for calling it that. The pastor's never said that we should include the Sodomites into our lives or activities. Nowadays, you can't drive down main street with out seeing every other church building with the enemy's flag.
 

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Here, this will flip your lid.

Here you go, you've probably been watching gay porn to understand them better. I bet you recognize these 2, my brother and wife.
why would it flip my lid ?

Watching gay porn ?

Is that your idea of fantasy what Christians do, watch porn

I see a picture of two men in gym.

Probably on steroids too.
hormone testosterone drugs that alter hormones.

Your brother and his wife 🤣

What a load of crap.

If they are your brother and and wife I'm not surprised there still gay. I would run from your church.

A picture can tell a thousand lies with the right bull craper behind it,
 

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I can't speak for all children who went through that trauma, but my best friend Michael did before he was 11.
I saw him and his little sister at the end of the street trying to untie a rope from the guard rail. I asked what he was doing?
He told me that the neighborhood queer queer was climbing the hill just past the Dead End. He explained how he got hold of them and what he did.
So I reached into my pocket for my knife. Unfortunately, it was gone! I forgot to carry my knife that day! Lesson learned, a boy should always carry his knife because there are days he will need it and not have it.

Guess what? Michael never dressed up as a woman for Halloween like that Sodomite.
We were normal boys that played football on the playground called Smear the Queer. None of the teachers scolded us as being insensitive for calling it that. The pastor's never said that we should include the Sodomites into our lives or activities. Nowadays, you can't drive down main street with out seeing every other church building with the enemy's flag.
one of the lucky ones I guess.
 

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Here, this will flip your lid.

Here you go, you've probably been watching gay porn to understand them better. I bet you recognize these 2, my brother and wife.
I don't know anyone who would post pictures of there brother on an internet site putting there life's at risk and exposing there identity, on places like this where people want to kill gay people.

Really ?.
 

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reprobate as far as I'm aware is punishent for people who have known Christ.

Can a reprobate be punishent or permanent.
I have no idea, could it be severe warning that it could be permanent unless such people change.

But would a saved person truly commit abominable acts

I do know God can chastise his children and punish them on earth.

That's a good question.

There's a lot of teaching in the Bible on the topic, yet very few churches ever touch on it. Maybe I'll have time later to answer it with the Scriptures.

In case you are wondering, I am against allowing homosexuals teach or serve in churches. I could give a dozen reasons why if I had time.

This is just one.



Since they came out of the closet, they are in our face about their intentions.
 

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That's a good question.

There's a lot of teaching in the Bible on the topic, yet very few churches ever touch on it. Maybe I'll have time later to answer it with the Scriptures.

In case you are wondering, I am against allowing homosexuals teach or serve in churches. I could give a dozen reasons why if I had time.

This is just one.



Since they came out of the closet, they are in our face about their intentions.
once again I have watched the video and once again I see sickness of the mind.

I only need to watch the video 1 minute to realise another gay at war with his nature trying to prove he has a feminine side to him self that must be expressed.

Besides this I'm sure people are bright enough to know what his personal agenda is all about

But i agree gays should keep there private feeling private and not promote its ok to be Gay because they are. but I would rather talk to a gay who openly admits rather than those who don't, gays are human and need to be shown the lord and Jesus can love them heal them and set them free from bondage.

With some gays you don't know, at least you know where you stand with those who open up.

I would recommend you pray for him rather than use him for some reason other, I don't know . I think a gay person who loves kids wouldn't be to concerned by your comments.

But yeah there are gays who miss lead kids.

And you have right to be annoyed. But I wondered if you where one of them kids who has never come to terms with the wrong doing you had done.

May you find peace soon if you are.

And if I'm insensitive for saying so, all I can say is hopefully one day you'll get over it.
 
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I don't know anyone who would post pictures of there brother on an internet site putting there life's at risk and exposing there identity, on places like this where people want to kill gay people.

Really ?.
I encourage you to locate them and try to do as you posted.

Bottom right picture look top left corner same husband and wife.

Their Porn Name and advertising card.
 

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