The Holy Spirit helps us in keeping the commandments

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eternally-gratefull

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1ofthem said:
The sin checklist thing is definitely not a good idea. Been there done that before. Failed every time. The harder I would try the more I failed in something. All I got from that was guilt and shame. I was definitely not free from the power of sin.

It can get pretty confusing at times.

You have one group of people telling you all the things that you "have to do" and yet, you see them struggling and failing too. That is the "workers for salvation" that way fails every time. They are not walking in Jesus' strength they are trying to walk in their own strength. They think that their work will somehow make them worthy. They are walking in themselves. They are not free from the power of sin.

Then, you have another group keeping the ten commandments and not failing in the "big sins"...So they think they are perfect and don't have any sin. The self righteous. In their view, they sit high above all judging the sins of others. Yet, they are in themselves and also failing horribly. They are not free from the power of sin.

Then, you have another group, who tell you that you can live anyway you want. They say that since Jesus died and paid the penalty for our sins, we are saved and no longer have to worry about sin...which is true...sin has no more dominion of us. Yet, they fail in that they don't really put any faith in Jesus that he can help them overcome. They allow sin to have dominion over them. They are self willed and seeking self pleasure. They are not concerned with the will of God and do not really put their faith and trust in him, either. They are following their own will and are in themselves. They are not free from the power of sin.

There has to be another way, right.

This is pretty difficult for me to explain it all, but I will try.

Jesus came to set us free from the power of sin. He did not fail. Whom the Son sets free is free indeed. The key to this, is loving God above all else and putting all faith in the Jesus Christ our Lord. We are dead and buried with Christ. We are a new man...the spirit is regenerated and we now have access to the Father. There is no longer a separation between us and God. We are now in Christ and the Father sees us through Christ. Scripture even tells us that we have the mind of Christ. He has made us to sit together in heavenly places with Christ far above all power and principalities.

The enemy doesn't want anyone to know or believe that because he is the accuser of the brethren. He wants to keep us held down in guilt and shame so that we can't truly put our faith in Christ, walk in the Spirit, and experience the freedom that is in Him.
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It is sad when the legalist call us licentious. and the licentious call us legalists.
 
1ofthem

1ofthem

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eternally-gratefull said:
It is sad when the legalist call us licentious. and the licentious call us legalists.
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Yeah, it really is sad, but so true.

It has took me a long time to separate it, myself.

When I first came to CC, I was in a terrible shape. Guess, I was coming from a legalist background (that's what I had been taught my whole life). I tried and tried, and just kept failing... threw in the towel a few times and was almost ready to walk away again. I really didn't understand salvation and the freedom, peace, and victory that is in Jesus.

I actually thought, it was one way or the other... legalist or licentious. I knew from experience that neither one of those options were working for me. So I started seeking more, praying, studying the Scripture more diligently, and putting more thought into it.

I'm not sure if I've told you before, but you have helped me a lot. I have learned much from your posts and some of the other people here.

Even though, I sometimes complain about the arguments and drama going on, and I know I can be one of the main players in the drama at times:oops: my experiences here have acctually helped me to learn and grow.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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1ofthem said:
Yeah, it really is sad, but so true.

It has took me a long time to separate it, myself.

When I first came to CC, I was in a terrible shape. Guess, I was coming from a legalist background (that's what I had been taught my whole life). I tried and tried, and just kept failing... threw in the towel a few times and was almost ready to walk away again. I really didn't understand salvation and the freedom, peace, and victory that is in Jesus.

I actually thought, it was one way or the other... legalist or licentious. I knew from experience that neither one of those options were working for me. So I started seeking more, praying, studying the Scripture more diligently, and putting more thought into it.

I'm not sure if I've told you before, but you have helped me a lot. I have learned much from your posts and some of the other people here.

Even though, I sometimes complain about the arguments and drama going on, and I know I can be one of the main players in the drama at times:oops: my experiences here have acctually helped me to learn and grow.
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Thank you sis, that is good to know. I get so discouraged at times I just want to leave. I think the drama has me so tore up I have no patience anymore, and that scares me. It’s good to know at least I have helped someone. I was in the same trap as a young man. Took awhile to break from legalism myself. I guess that’s why I hate it so much so many close friends left because they could never live up to the standard being imposed on them, they were damaged so bad, some f the, still refuse to come back. It’s sad
 
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