There Will Be No Future Millennium On This Earth, A False Teaching Of Man
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what comes to mind is how do you talk to a wall. To say "there is no" is not a truth. One could simple search and read from very wise believers on BOTH sides. Or "There is no solid basis for denying the literal interpretation of the millennial kingdom and its duration being 1,000 years. " <---this person is right? Now to say JESUS is the only way to the Father.. we can say that as FACT and no move! But in this case we can not. God will not even say a word. Well your telling Him and others what HE really said and meant.
forgive me if I offended.. don't mean to what comes to mind is how do you talk to a wall. To say "there is no" is not a truth. One could simple search and read from very wise believers on BOTH sides. Or "There is no solid basis for denying the literal interpretation of the millennial kingdom and its duration being 1,000 years. " <---this person is right?Now to say JESUS is the only way to the Father.. we can say that as FACT and no move! But in this case we can not. God will not even say a word. Well your telling Him and others what HE really said and meant.
forgive me if I offended.. don't mean to
Perhaps you can help me find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?
1.) No Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) No Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) No Physical Mortal Humans?
The Above Claims (Don't Exist), A 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Is A Man Made Fairy Tale (Fact)
Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?
100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time (Fact)
2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
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Things are a bit more complicated than the suggestion that there is no more Jewish people in God's sight. But it is possible that with DNA testing and the like, man could actually come up with a Jewish race that exists today.
But God's perspective is always the one to go by. The Jews will play a dominant role in the kingdom of God, because the apostles are the foundation walls to the city and the 12 Tribes are the gates.
We are unable to visualize exactly what that means but we are not expected to, as the bible states that eyes have not seen nor ears heard, nor has it entered into the mind of man what God has prepared for him.
Also I have a very radical view about the end times that began with Jesus's appearance here on the earth. A plethora of events took place here on this earth at that time which are not enumerated in the bible because our main occupation is the salvation of our souls irrespective, of the condition of the Jews.
We have been called and we only have to answer that call. That is the totality of what is expected of us. Figuring out Revelations is also critical because Jesus said it was critical. The Pauline era was not played up by Jesus because Jesus was addressing those in the church at that time who should have matured into sanctified saints.
Each person will have to figure out the book of revelation for themselves, hopefully with the same spirit inhabiting us, at least some of us will arrive at the same conclusions which will be exhilarating.
But God's perspective is always the one to go by. The Jews will play a dominant role in the kingdom of God, because the apostles are the foundation walls to the city and the 12 Tribes are the gates.
We are unable to visualize exactly what that means but we are not expected to, as the bible states that eyes have not seen nor ears heard, nor has it entered into the mind of man what God has prepared for him.
Also I have a very radical view about the end times that began with Jesus's appearance here on the earth. A plethora of events took place here on this earth at that time which are not enumerated in the bible because our main occupation is the salvation of our souls irrespective, of the condition of the Jews.
We have been called and we only have to answer that call. That is the totality of what is expected of us. Figuring out Revelations is also critical because Jesus said it was critical. The Pauline era was not played up by Jesus because Jesus was addressing those in the church at that time who should have matured into sanctified saints.
Each person will have to figure out the book of revelation for themselves, hopefully with the same spirit inhabiting us, at least some of us will arrive at the same conclusions which will be exhilarating.
It was a direct response to another persons post directed to
Me a conversation we were having. What do you have to do with its length ? There’s already a set limit at 1000 caracters and there’s a lot of long posts here so what’s the purpose of your remark ? Looking to argue or what’s up brother truth ?
Me a conversation we were having. What do you have to do with its length ? There’s already a set limit at 1000 caracters and there’s a lot of long posts here so what’s the purpose of your remark ? Looking to argue or what’s up brother truth ?
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No problem, wasnt aware it was talking to another poster
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The condition and destination of our souls are more important than any random knowledge about what will happen to the Jews. Of course Hosea 6 vs 4 states that lack of knowledge of and about God will be the downfall of many. But Paul also states that bringing his body under control was of extreme importance lest He should become a castaway after preaching the word of God to others.
So I guess balance and moderation is key in everything. The road to knowledge and understanding is through sanctification and as Solomon puts it wisely in Eccl 1 vs 18 - For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
God told Hezekiah at one point to get his house in order and I think that getting our houses in order for the coming of Christ is critical at this late stage of the end times. God is not mocked whatever a man soweth that shall he also reap. (For God is no respecter of persons and each man will get the reward that is due to him)
I think that we should do everything in love even when we disagree, because God is not the author of confusion. I do give credit to your tolerance as this in the end is God's desired goal for us.
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Thanks for the response
Tolerance is God's desired goal for us?
Matthew 10:33-34KJV
33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Tolerance is God's desired goal for us?
Matthew 10:33-34KJV
33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Paul preached the Truth, through the gift of the Holy Spirit that God gave to him.
But his behavior was a manifestation of the truth in him. He knew the truth by his display of his overreaching actions of love for all. By all, I mean even those who would kill him, his enemies. He truly walked in Jesus's footsteps.
Balaam spoke the Truth because God's Spirit entered him. (Whether by force, or whatever means God did it)
But his heart was wicked and evil and his behavior (originating from the condition of his heart) eventually caused him to be cut down by the sword. The book of Revelation underscored the evilness of Balaam.
Our actions or fruits really tell us who we are. Jesus says by their fruits you will know them. Can a good tree bring forth bad fruit or can a bad tree bring forth good fruit? No.
Well today Satan will come as an angel of light deceiving even the very elect, but those who are grounded in the Lord Jesus Christ will be able to discern good from evil. This last point is critical for Christians because today good is being called evil and evil good.
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There is no 1000 year reign of Christ on this earth, as espoused by the majority, if not almost all of Christiandom.
What does that mean if not exactly what the bible has said about the last days.
As in the days of Noah so shall it be in the end.
Really it means that Satan has pulled the wool over the entire earth (world) starting from 2000 years ago.
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
Any man who believe in this falacy and who would enter the kingdom of God would have to go back to square one and to tell the honest truth, it appears really to be too late to be doing that, as it was for the 5 foolish virgins.
But what is impossible with man is possible with God. (Like a camel going through the eye of a needle.)
What does that mean if not exactly what the bible has said about the last days.
As in the days of Noah so shall it be in the end.
Really it means that Satan has pulled the wool over the entire earth (world) starting from 2000 years ago.
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
Any man who believe in this falacy and who would enter the kingdom of God would have to go back to square one and to tell the honest truth, it appears really to be too late to be doing that, as it was for the 5 foolish virgins.
But what is impossible with man is possible with God. (Like a camel going through the eye of a needle.)
The quote tags/coding was messed up, so it was not apparent your response was to someone else, or even to anyone in particular. Also, I believe the character limit is 10,000 (you may have simply accidentally omitted a zero). That might sound like a lot, but it counts the HTML coding in any post, and not just the visible content, so when "hot" links, or font color and/or size changes are included, that increases the character count for that post., which then translates into seeming like not as much content is allowed as actually is without the extra HTML.
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Yes, I understand that... but your post did not have a proper quote, with the HTML being
messed up, and so the fact that you were responding to someone was not apparent at all.
I believe that contributed to the other person not being sure whom you were addressing.
I then went on to explain some other things about post character limits
just as a matter of sharing information. You made reference to that, as well.
The HTML in any post can be seen by clicking the icon to the extreme right above the message box
Somebody may find that info useful I know I did when I first found out about it
messed up, and so the fact that you were responding to someone was not apparent at all.
I believe that contributed to the other person not being sure whom you were addressing.
I then went on to explain some other things about post character limits
just as a matter of sharing information. You made reference to that, as well.
The HTML in any post can be seen by clicking the icon to the extreme right above the message box
Somebody may find that info useful
I know I did when I first found out about it
Yes, I understand that... but your post did not have a proper quote, with the HTML being
messed up, and so the fact that you were responding to someone was not apparent at all.
I then went on to explain some other things about post character limits
just as a matter of sharing information. You made reference to that, as well.
The HTML in any post can be seen by clicking the icon to the extreme right above the message box
Somebody may find that info useful
messed up, and so the fact that you were responding to someone was not apparent at all.
I then went on to explain some other things about post character limits
just as a matter of sharing information. You made reference to that, as well.
The HTML in any post can be seen by clicking the icon to the extreme right above the message box
Somebody may find that info useful
what I meant was it was a bit rhetorical I was sort of asking the person “ what is it to you how many words I post of it’s within the forum limit ?”
it was more rhetorical than anything just a response to someone who I thought was focused on the wrong point who cares how long someone’s post is of it has value to the subject ? Was sort of my thinking
but yes I wasn’t saying your post wasn’t helpful at all it was good info and I didn’t know that so thanks