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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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Hello.
I have taken the two shot vaccination against COVID-19.

I have underlying medical diseases that informed me it was in my healths best interest to be vaccinated.
I'm NIDDM diabetic,have a history of blood clots since 2013 especially PE,high blood pressure and cholesterol,and I carry excess wt.

The genetics of my family hx are aweful in that most of my relatives don't live past their 50's & 60's.

I'm not a ninny nor ignorant of the misinformation going about with the normal occurance of death. I have close friends who had UNDERLYING CONDITIONS that the covid accerbated,causing their death.

I do not understand some here hung up on the vaccine being gene therapy!
IT IS NOT!

You come across as chaotic fanatics looking for chaos in all things. I hope you've enjoyed your stint acting like chicken little! ( Yes I do know the whole story so don't bother.)

If God truly advised you against it,which I doubt since he didn't advise ALL followers,then take it as such and go away.
As it is you that are for the vaccine if you took it for protection of self and loved ones,good for you,now go away.

This nonsense is ridiculous and does not belong in BDF,which should be about learning more about the bible and God!

No offense intended,just tired of seeing the same ole same ole by the same ole people!
 
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Are you saying we can have two accounts on (CC)Christian Chat?Now why would I have two accounts on here?
no that is just your understanding

I have also been here quite a while....not 10 years, but this is not my 1st account.
this is not my first account does not mean I have more than one. it means I left and came back as many others have done.

I don't know why you would have two accounts on here
 

JohnDB

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And...
To be completely transparent...

I chose to actually get the Moderna vaccine specifically before the stage 4 trial was completed.
Vanderbilt University department of Virology and immunology has been the real leader in virus research for several decades. They were the first to create and utilize virus isolation and identification technology....miles ahead of everyone else.
The reasons why we have the knowledge we do about this virus is mostly based on technology created by the researchers at Vanderbilt University.

On top of this... Moderna has teamed(funded) up with a researcher (and his team) at Vanderbilt to develop the mRNA vaccine they put forward. And in spite of all the issues (at Vanderbilt) have consistently produced results over and above anyone else. Their team is deserving of all sorts of praise and accolades for the work they have done. So even though my health insurance (Aetna) was eventually going to get me vaxxed I went ahead and went to Walmart in the next county over to get the Moderna vaccine... Because I trusted the people I know more about than strangers.

And that trust has paid off.
 
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If God truly advised you against it,which I doubt since he didn't advise ALL followers,then take it as such and go away.
As it is you that are for the vaccine if you took it for protection of self and loved ones,good for you,now go away.

This nonsense is ridiculous and does not belong in BDF,which should be about learning more about the bible and God!

well, God can direct different people differently. this is not something determining anyone's salvation

I actually didn't pray about it myself. I decided it was not something I wanted, having been affected by another vaccine about 4 years prior. After discussing it with my doctor, I believe I made the right decision. I have neither read or heard anything that would change my mind...in fact, just the opposited.

I agree this thread would have been better served in the news section...some would place it in the conspiracy forum

the mods have moved threads before that were misplaced, but the questions asked by the op revolved around whether or not people thought Christians should get the vaccine, determining if faith was a factor in the decision process

If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?
  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.
  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.
  • Other,I will explain


my personal opinion is that it is a personal decision and neither reflects upon or judges your faith and it also does not show love for your neighbor

that last part, was an insertion into the campaign for getting the shot when people showed reluctance. sounds more like trying to guilt people into getting something they do not want

always begs the question, if a person has the vaccine, why would an unvaccinated person cause them harm

did they know something back then that is coming to light now?
 
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sorry Gardenias...I've added to my post...the last part....
 

Gardenias

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well, God can direct different people differently. this is not something determining anyone's salvation

I actually didn't pray about it myself. I decided it was not something I wanted, having been affected by another vaccine about 4 years prior. After discussing it with my doctor, I believe I made the right decision. I have neither read or heard anything that would change my mind...in fact, just the opposited.

I agree this thread would have been better served in the news section...some would place it in the conspiracy forum

the mods have moved threads before that were misplaced, but the questions asked by the op revolved around whether or not people thought Christians should get the vaccine, determining if faith was a factor in the decision process

If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?
  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.
  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.
  • Other,I will explain.





I can agree there are many facets to this discussion but it has become the biggest issue over salvation, sanctification,and glorification!

When is ENOUGH,ENOUGH?
 
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I can agree there are many facets to this discussion but it has become the biggest issue over salvation, sanctification,and glorification!

When is ENOUGH,ENOUGH?

I totally and absolutely without hesitation agree that salvation, sanctification and anything resembling any sort of judgement on that...or perhaps leading to being locked out of heaven...is INSANE

I see again and again...in the BDF in particular...the very real and sad evidence of little or distorted understanding of basic biblical doctrine

I know you are familiar with that too
 
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TheIndianGirl

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Why would we take Moderna, not even a 1% of the total Scientists existing in the World currently work for Moderna, and believe their definition of mRNA over the 99% of Science [including Believers in God in Biology and Chemistry - Mathematics] that claims mRNA cannot be in the same definition as Gene Therapy and Editing because mRNA cannot do as such?

mRNA has a SHORT shelf life!
In a couple days, you will POOP 99% out!
If you can POOP out mRNA fragments, it AIN't Gene Editing!


unless it's editing a TURD being flushed in the toilet!!
I do not believe mRNA is involved with gene editing. How is it there are thousands of scientists involved with this type of work (creating vaccines, geneticists, etc.) around the world, yet only Malone (and maybe one or two more scientists) say there is gene editing?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I can agree there are many facets to this discussion but it has become the biggest issue over salvation, sanctification,and glorification!

When is ENOUGH,ENOUGH?
to some people it will never be enough.

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eternally-gratefull

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always begs the question, if a person has the vaccine, why would an unvaccinated person cause them harm
They should not be able to. But sadly. due to division. People will argue this point.

Not because its true. but because they want to argue a point. and they will blindly believe and get others to believe it too.

As I said in an earlier post to you. If You (those who cause this nonsense) do this. your part of the problem not part of the solution
 

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Hello.
I have taken the two shot vaccination against COVID-19.

I have underlying medical diseases that informed me it was in my healths best interest to be vaccinated.
I'm NIDDM diabetic,have a history of blood clots since 2013 especially PE,high blood pressure and cholesterol,and I carry excess wt.

The genetics of my family hx are aweful in that most of my relatives don't live past their 50's & 60's.

I'm not a ninny nor ignorant of the misinformation going about with the normal occurance of death. I have close friends who had UNDERLYING CONDITIONS that the covid accerbated,causing their death.

I do not understand some here hung up on the vaccine being gene therapy!
IT IS NOT!

You come across as chaotic fanatics looking for chaos in all things. I hope you've enjoyed your stint acting like chicken little! ( Yes I do know the whole story so don't bother.)

If God truly advised you against it,which I doubt since he didn't advise ALL followers,then take it as such and go away.
As it is you that are for the vaccine if you took it for protection of self and loved ones,good for you,now go away.

This nonsense is ridiculous and does not belong in BDF,which should be about learning more about the bible and God!

No offense intended,just tired of seeing the same ole same ole by the same ole people!

the vaccine is not a cure-all.
 

JohnDB

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They should not be able to. But sadly. due to division. People will argue this point.

Not because its true. but because they want to argue a point. and they will blindly believe and get others to believe it too.

As I said in an earlier post to you. If You (those who cause this nonsense) do this. your part of the problem not part of the solution
They just finished a study involving blind people who had eyes but due to a genetic disorder they could not see.

Eyes are a rather enclosed system in your body...they eyeball itself is self contained. So they tried to test gene editing in one eye with an injection on a group of these blind people. The other eye being the control group.

It worked on ONE person somewhat...and apparently he needs regular injections to continue to get what little vision he has out of the one eye.

Meaning that gene editing on people is so far a complete failure.
Back to formula....
 

Gardenias

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the vaccine is not a cure-all.




I totally agree but it was a preventative that I was advised to take.

In having so many of the underlying factors that seem to be the REAL cause of death in a person that gets Covid,I took the vaccine!

I too am against FORCED injections!
It should be a personal choice.
 
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I do not believe mRNA is involved with gene editing. How is it there are thousands of scientists involved with this type of work (creating vaccines, geneticists, etc.) around the world, yet only Malone (and maybe one or two more scientists) say there is gene editing?
Exactly!

They've yet to be successful in succeeding "Clone" modification through DNA let alone Chimps and then Humans.
 

JohnDB

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I totally agree but it was a preventative that I was advised to take.

In having so many of the underlying factors that seem to be the REAL cause of death in a person that gets Covid,I took the vaccine!
Kinda...
It's about the amount of damage your various endocrine systems can withstand.

If your immune system is "compromised" it often is due to one or more of your endocrine systems being weak to begin with. And when what portions are then attacked by the virus.... well you can understand the result.
 

JohnDB

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I do not believe mRNA is involved with gene editing. How is it there are thousands of scientists involved with this type of work (creating vaccines, geneticists, etc.) around the world, yet only Malone (and maybe one or two more scientists) say there is gene editing?
Malone is not good with public speaking...
He is NOT a good spokesman... despite what they want out of him.
 

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I totally agree but it was a preventative that I was advised to take.

In having so many of the underlying factors that seem to be the REAL cause of death in a person that gets Covid,I took the vaccine!

I too am against FORCED injections!
It should be a personal choice.
again I have received it and was healed of COVID-19 before I was vaccinated. BUT I am suffering from side effects that are to me greater than the virus. I will not receive any more as I do not get flu shots either.
 
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Bottom line is, speaking of METAL + Human Flesh:

The Orthopedic Implants are from alloys like light weight special military grade metals, and stainless steel, Cobalt etc.

And the job we had in 2000/2001 was getting human flesh or the [[CELL STRUCTURES]] to stick, settle, stabilize, adhere, grow to these Exotic Metals [INSIDE YOUR BODY] [METAL] inside your body!!

It took a mixture of Biology with Chemistry on the Metal itself before the flesh would accept it and the hip/knee/spine/elbow joints could be repaired and completely healed.

There's NO WAY a Vaccine can do this ^ let alone Gene Editing/Manipulating!

Impossible!!
 

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again I have received it and was healed of COVID-19 before I was vaccinated. BUT I am suffering from side effects that are to me greater than the virus. I will not receive any more as I do not get flu shots either.



I am sorry for your complications.
I have read your prior post and understand the why!

May God bring healing to all whether from the virus or the vaccine!
 
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