Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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eternally-gratefull

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I see a link of this being the Great End Time Deception we were warned of and how Jesus said He would separate His sheep from the adversaries goats. I see what you mean, this may well be the final separating of the saved from the lost.
you know what.

When this happens. I feel real sorry for people that think this has anything to do with it. Because you will be lost as to what is really going on.
 

John146

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Why would anybody think that being on Fauci's side of truth is the right side?
 

DavidTree

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Why would anybody think that being on Fauci's side of truth is the right side?
Any born-again christian who openly sits and dines at the table with Fauci will walk away with food poisoning for their soul.
 

Angela53510

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Currently, there are more people dying from the vaccines than from covid. And as for Invermectin, it has well documented and accepted use in humans. Consider for yourselves that it's used as an anti-parasite, yet it's effective against C19. Y'all need to stop trusting the governments and media. So much of it is lies from the mouth of hell. WAKE UP.
More anti-vax misinformation & lies?

NO! Millions have died because of the virus, NOT the vaccine. Every study I have read shows Invermectin does not work against the virus.

And then you wonder why people call you a conspiracy theorist? Utter paranoia. Argue some facts, show some sources, or real references! Not this nonsense!

Or better yet, quote the Bible! Oh right, vaccines are not in the Bible, so nothing to show!
 

DavidTree

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More anti-vax misinformation & lies?

NO! Millions have died because of the virus, NOT the vaccine. Every study I have read shows Invermectin does not work against the virus.

And then you wonder why people call you a conspiracy theorist? Utter paranoia. Argue some facts, show some sources, or real references! Not this nonsense!

Or better yet, quote the Bible! Oh right, vaccines are not in the Bible, so nothing to show!
Dear Sister Angela, may i encourage you to seek out the doctors, scientists and those who are walking in truth because they still have a conscience.
We are living in the most deceptive times in world history - never before such collaborative deception - never before.

Only one time was there such great evil as we now see us in = the days of Noah.
 

notmyown

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hey, y'all, i don't know what's happening in this thread, and i'm not gonna read 190 pages to find out, lol.

just wanted to drop a couple of ideas... went to see the doc a few weeks ago and he asked me if i wanted the "vaccine". i told him i was taking a wait and see approach because i thought we're still in human trials. he immediately affirmed, 'these ARE third phase clinical trials. (he and his wife took the vaxx. they have kids who are missionaries in Nepal, Hong Kong, and Lebanon and they want to see their grandbabies.) they are both Christians, and chose to trust the Lord in getting the vaxx, and he never once derided me for choosing to trust the Lord by NOT getting it. i love that guy. :)

the other thng is, we're stuck with the rona, now. it's not going anywhere so we better learn to live with it.
there's a reason pathogens like the ones that cause smallpox and measles could be eradicated and that reason is humans are the only species affected by them. there are no animal reservoirs for those pathogens.

on the other hand, deer in the county we live in (about 90 miles north of Manhattan) have tested positive for covid antibodies. i'm unsure of other animals who can carry the virus, but i know there are others. the rona can't be eradicated on that basis alone, right?

i put vaccine in quotes above because it's not a vaccine in any sense of the word we've understood it to mean.
it neither prevents one from getting covid, not spreading it. now, c'mon, that's not what we've ever thought of as a vaccine! ;)

please forgive me if i'm going over ground already covered. i'm far too indolent to read this whole thread. :giggle:

i love you all, my family in Christ. He's the one who unites us as family, and we ought not allow this virus to divide us.
 
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More anti-vax misinformation & lies?

NO! Millions have died because of the virus, NOT the vaccine. Every study I have read shows Invermectin does not work against the virus.

And then you wonder why people call you a conspiracy theorist? Utter paranoia. Argue some facts, show some sources, or real references! Not this nonsense!

Or better yet, quote the Bible! Oh right, vaccines are not in the Bible, so nothing to show!
just remember. most of their so called facts come from twitter or some right wing news source..
 
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eternally-gratefull

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hey, y'all, i don't know what's happening in this thread, and i'm not gonna read 190 pages to find out, lol.

just wanted to drop a couple of ideas... went to see the doc a few weeks ago and he asked me if i wanted the "vaccine". i told him i was taking a wait and see approach because i thought we're still in human trials. he immediately affirmed, 'these ARE third phase clinical trials. (he and his wife took the vaxx. they have kids who are missionaries in Nepal, Hong Kong, and Lebanon and they want to see their grandbabies.) they are both Christians, and chose to trust the Lord in getting the vaxx, and he never once derided me for choosing to trust the Lord by NOT getting it. i love that guy. :)

the other thng is, we're stuck with the rona, now. it's not going anywhere so we better learn to live with it.
there's a reason pathogens like the ones that cause smallpox and measles could be eradicated and that reason is humans are the only species affected by them. there are no animal reservoirs for those pathogens.

on the other hand, deer in the county we live in (about 90 miles north of Manhattan) have tested positive for covid antibodies. i'm unsure of other animals who can carry the virus, but i know there are others. the rona can't be eradicated on that basis alone, right?

i put vaccine in quotes above because it's not a vaccine in any sense of the word we've understood it to mean.
it neither prevents one from getting covid, not spreading it. now, c'mon, that's not what we've ever thought of as a vaccine! ;)

please forgive me if i'm going over ground already covered. i'm far too indolent to read this whole thread. :giggle:

i love you all, my family in Christ. He's the one who unites us as family, and we ought not allow this virus to divide us.
Great post. and what your doctor said is pretty much what most doctors would say.

As for vaccines.. I must remind you of the flu vaccine.. I think we would all consider that a vaccine. the C19 is really no different (except in how it works)
 

shittim

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Poor angela.. and all the others who are not seeking truth via the indwelling Holy Spirit, who will only speak the truth He is told to speak.
It seems to be reaching the crescendo.
 

notmyown

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Great post. and what your doctor said is pretty much what most doctors would say.

As for vaccines.. I must remind you of the flu vaccine.. I think we would all consider that a vaccine. the C19 is really no different (except in how it works)

Doc! i missed you!
i call it a flu shot; it really isn't a vaccine. we're just ordinary people, but for some reason we know a lot of nurses and physicians. :unsure:

our friend John is head of emergency medicine at the nearest tertiary care hospital, and i got that idea from him.
 

PennEd

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i put vaccine in quotes above because it's not a vaccine in any sense of the word we've understood it to mean.
it neither prevents one from getting covid, not spreading it. now, c'mon, that's not what we've ever thought of as a vaccine! ;)
Hey young Lady!

Great to hear from ya.

You are of course right. This is NOT a vaccine. Moderna themselves called it a gene therapy up until a year ago. Watch this 15 minute vid at the bottom to verify that the gene therapy doesn't work:

From post 3665:
The jury is in. There is really no further debate that you get NO benefit from the highly dangerous gene therapy.

1. It does not prevent you from getting the disease.

2. It does not stop you from spreading the disease.

3. It does not prevent serious infection, nor hospitalization, nor death relative to the unvaccinated.

4. It DOES cause ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement)

5. It DOES cause blood clots, major and micro, myocarditis, auto immune problems, and death.

If you watch this short video of FACTS, charts, and studies, not speculation, and STILL think it has some benefit, then you absolutely suffer from cognitive dissonance. ( The intelligence to understand facts, with the ability to reject them ).

SERIOUS ANTIBODY DROP AFTER VACCINE - The HighWire
 
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Doc! i missed you!
i call it a flu shot; it really isn't a vaccine. we're just ordinary people, but for some reason we know a lot of nurses and physicians. :unsure:

our friend John is head of emergency medicine at the nearest tertiary care hospital, and i got that idea from him.
thats funny. When I talk to people outside of chat. I usually call it the covid shot. I guess people call it a vaccine becayse of how it is administered. Intramuscular in the deltoid region. WHen I went to boot camp. They lined us up for all these vaccines.. Flu was one of them. Our arms and hips were sore the next morning..lol
 
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come on man, how can we take you seriously when you make silly comments like this?
Well, I know this is going off topic a little here, BUT
lately anytime I here someone use the phrase "COME ON MAN!" to try and get their point across or "win" their argument, I automatically tune out.......
:unsure: can't put my finger on the reason WHY :rolleyes: but there is just SOMETHING about the phrase "Come on man" that turns my attention to the speaker off.
It's really hard to take them seriously when they use phrases like "Come on man!"
 

notmyown

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thats funny. When I talk to people outside of chat. I usually call it the covid shot. I guess people call it a vaccine becayse of how it is administered. Intramuscular in the deltoid region. WHen I went to boot camp. They lined us up for all these vaccines.. Flu was one of them. Our arms and hips were sore the next morning..lol

yikes! :D

no wonder i just had babies!

we have friends with 11 sons and a daughter who were anti-vaxxers. all their kiddos suffered through pertussis (whooping cough) and the second oldest said he would rather have died. :(
when they grew up, they went to college and entered the military and guess what? vaccines! :)
 

shittim

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Well, I know this is going off topic a little here, BUT
lately anytime I here someone use the phrase "COME ON MAN!" to try and get their point across or "win" their argument, I automatically tune out.......
:unsure: can't put my finger on the reason WHY :rolleyes: but there is just SOMETHING about the phrase "Come on man" that turns my attention to the speaker off.
It's really hard to take them seriously when they use phrases like "Come on man!"
Suppose it is the recognition of being coerced?
 

DavidTree

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hey, y'all, i don't know what's happening in this thread, and i'm not gonna read 190 pages to find out, lol.

just wanted to drop a couple of ideas... went to see the doc a few weeks ago and he asked me if i wanted the "vaccine". i told him i was taking a wait and see approach because i thought we're still in human trials. he immediately affirmed, 'these ARE third phase clinical trials. (he and his wife took the vaxx. they have kids who are missionaries in Nepal, Hong Kong, and Lebanon and they want to see their grandbabies.) they are both Christians, and chose to trust the Lord in getting the vaxx, and he never once derided me for choosing to trust the Lord by NOT getting it. i love that guy. :)

the other thng is, we're stuck with the rona, now. it's not going anywhere so we better learn to live with it.
there's a reason pathogens like the ones that cause smallpox and measles could be eradicated and that reason is humans are the only species affected by them. there are no animal reservoirs for those pathogens.

on the other hand, deer in the county we live in (about 90 miles north of Manhattan) have tested positive for covid antibodies. i'm unsure of other animals who can carry the virus, but i know there are others. the rona can't be eradicated on that basis alone, right?

i put vaccine in quotes above because it's not a vaccine in any sense of the word we've understood it to mean.
it neither prevents one from getting covid, not spreading it. now, c'mon, that's not what we've ever thought of as a vaccine! ;)

please forgive me if i'm going over ground already covered. i'm far too indolent to read this whole thread. :giggle:

i love you all, my family in Christ. He's the one who unites us as family, and we ought not allow this virus to divide us.
Stay on your current path and continue to do research, and do not trust 'board certified' people.
Seek out the doctors and scientists who actually know the truth. They are there but are being suppressed - greatly.
Many 'christians' are clueless and are trusting what they are fed by CDC, WHO, Fauci, Pharma and so called specialists.
The world has been indoctrinated by the 'men in white', media and government.

DAILY, place you complete trust in the Lord who said: "take heed that no one deceive you"

If, your info is mainly sourced from main stream media, you are being lied to and these lies will not stop but grow ever more deceitful.

The Greatest Gift you could ask our Heavenly Father for is the Holy Spirit = seek to be filled with the Holy Spirit.
 

DavidTree

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Poor angela.. and all the others who are not seeking truth via the indwelling Holy Spirit, who will only speak the truth He is told to speak.
It seems to be reaching the crescendo.
It has always been a choice.
 
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Suppose it is the recognition of being coerced?
I ask you once again. Can you show us people who are doing what you accused them of?

I am not trying to coerce anyone. I just want you to provide an explanation of what you accused people of.

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notmyown

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Stay on your current path and continue to do research, and do not trust 'board certified' people.
Seek out the doctors and scientists who actually know the truth. They are there but are being suppressed - greatly.
Many 'christians' are clueless and are trusting what they are fed by CDC, WHO, Fauci, Pharma and so called specialists.
The world has been indoctrinated by the 'men in white', media and government.

DAILY, place you complete trust in the Lord who said: "take heed that no one deceive you"

If, your info is mainly sourced from main stream media, you are being lied to and these lies will not stop but grow ever more deceitful.

The Greatest Gift you could ask our Heavenly Father for is the Holy Spirit = seek to be filled with the Holy Spirit.

thank you, i know i have the Spirit because Christ Himself promised i would. :)
i do pray to be filled, to walk by the Spirit, and i trust the Lord to answer.

my doc is board certified, but He's a Christian first and foremost. the Lord Jesus is, indeed, our only hope in life and in death.
 

Aidan1

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Hospitals do, however, and how they treat Covid patients.
In germany, we are not depend on what others teach. But since that is an international problem. Is is wise to see what expieriences other countrys have. Sometimes they are good and sometimes not.
 
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