Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

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eternally-gratefull

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just some quick research - about 194 million people in u.s. fully vaccinated .


about 1.75 million adverse reactions being reported to v.a.r.e.s

so, a little less than 1%.

just the numbers, nothing more.
Can we even trust these numbers? Either way with a new vaccine that is experimental at that with no time to really test. I would not call these bad numbers

I would also like to see these broken down into groups. Like I would like to see covid adverse reactions and deaths broken down.

In other words. Are certain age groups or people with certain medical conditions affected differently? I have no doubt certain people should stay away from these vaccines. I did not take the influenza for years because I got pneumonia every time I took it. Luckily I was young enough (18-20) that I was able to recover pretty easily.

I started taking them again 2 years ago. My doc said they process them differently so I may not react the same. He was correct
 

gb9

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Can we even trust these numbers? Either way with a new vaccine that is experimental at that with no time to really test. I would not call these bad numbers

I would also like to see these broken down into groups. Like I would like to see covid adverse reactions and deaths broken down.

In other words. Are certain age groups or people with certain medical conditions affected differently? I have no doubt certain people should stay away from these vaccines. I did not take the influenza for years because I got pneumonia every time I took it. Luckily I was young enough (18-20) that I was able to recover pretty easily.

I started taking them again 2 years ago. My doc said they process them differently so I may not react the same. He was correct
my mom took the flu shot every year for a long time, was sick off and on all winter,

about 5 years ago, she stopped. has not really been sick since then.

i would like to see those numbers broken down also.
 

Aidan1

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my mom took the flu shot every year for a long time, was sick off and on all winter,

about 5 years ago, she stopped. has not really been sick since then.

i would like to see those numbers broken down also.
Even flu and Covid is similar, it is far not the same. 80 - 90 % on unvaccined patients on the icu is for me a clear language.
 

gb9

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Even flu and Covid is similar, it is far not the same. 80 - 90 % on unvaccined patients on the icu is for me a clear language.

well. since covid has 98. 5 % survival rate, i have little concern,

your neighbor austria has imposed a lockdown on the unvaxxed, and the rumor is germany is strongly considering doing the same, all you covid cheerleaders should be happy, with us dirty undesirables kept away from you...
 

Angela53510

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boost your immune system and trust God, and go about your life.
This is so useless! Many people do not have healthy immune systems. My body attacks itself, I take cancer drugs to suppress it. I have heart disease, lung disease, and I am also old. I have had issues with respiratory infections since my 30s.

I calculated my risk for dying of COVID, and it is 10,000 times more likely I would die of COVID than a healthy 18-29 year old.

Stop spreading misinformation. Most people don't have a perfect immune system. It happened at the Fall, and got worse after the Flood.

I am not the only one. Most people have a higher risk than a young, healthy adult. If you don't want a vax, that's fine. But wear protective equipment and sanitize. My son-in-law is an anesthesiologist. He's been working with COVID since the pandemic began, including putting in the vents in ICU. He wears a mask, and sanitizes every time he changes patients. He never has been sick. But he is not stupid enough to take serious risks by just relying on his "immune system!"
 
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my mom took the flu shot every year for a long time, was sick off and on all winter,

about 5 years ago, she stopped. has not really been sick since then.

i would like to see those numbers broken down also.
I know people who got the flu vaccine and still got sick.

The problem is it is a virus, viruses change, and if the actual flue is not the same as the vaccine, it will not be as effective.

They give you the vacc based on what happens in the lower hemisphere. Assuming that strain of flu will move north and effect us up north. Sometimes that is not the case.
 
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well. since covid has 98. 5 % survival rate, i have little concern,

your neighbor austria has imposed a lockdown on the unvaxxed, and the rumor is germany is strongly considering doing the same, all you covid cheerleaders should be happy, with us dirty undesirables kept away from you...
They need to stop that nonsense. We need to stop the fear and open up our world. If anything sends us to financial collapse. That will do it..
 

Angela53510

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well. since covid has 98. 5 % survival rate, i have little concern,

your neighbor austria has imposed a lockdown on the unvaxxed, and the rumor is germany is strongly considering doing the same, all you covid cheerleaders should be happy, with us dirty undesirables kept away from you...
This is a totally bogus number. It doesn't matter if 98.5/100 people survive COVID. What matters is your personal risk! Everything from age, to gender and other health issues affect your personal risk of dying from COVID. Diabetes has a huge risk and there are 33M diabetics in the US. Heart disease has 30M people in the US, another serious risk of dying of COVID. And many of those people are old, with other comorbid conditions.

The problem is, you may think you have a healthy immune system, but certain blood types get much sicker than others. Like my fellow student who almost died in the ICU, ( but for a miracle of God!) and his wife and children who only had a mild infection.

People need to stop using this useless number to prove COVID isn't dangerous. I just heard a former pastor died of COVID. He was a Pentecostal, didn't take the vax. His wife also has COVID, but almost symptomless.

If 98.5/100 people survive, do you realize with the US population of 300M, that 4.5 M Americans would die of COVID!? That is a huge number. Very easy to be one of those people. People buy lottery tickets hoping to win, without nearly that high a chance of winning. Really, 98.5% is a sure bet in a lottery! Most people should realize they can be that 1.5 person in a 100 that could die.

Stop repeating this lie over and over. The risk is not 1.5%! Personal risk is what matters, which probably makes the risk 5 times higher, for the average American. Or, like me at 10,000x a great risk!
 

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well. since covid has 98. 5 % survival rate, i have little concern,

your neighbor austria has imposed a lockdown on the unvaxxed, and the rumor is germany is strongly considering doing the same, all you covid cheerleaders should be happy, with us dirty undesirables kept away from you...
Hmmm..... Germany and Austria leading the way again?......
 

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shittim

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Just a few years ago I heard bleeding heart liberals whine about an issue, "if it saves just one life, it will be worth it", now hundreds and thousands are dying for this weaponized chinese virus and not a peep of caring is heard from the ccp/commie dem left.
 
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But, I am shure you understand what I mean.
actually, no I do not

I don't have a clue

I would not have quoted it if I had understood it

please do not assume what I do or do not understand
 

Aidan1

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well. since covid has 98. 5 % survival rate, i have little concern,

your neighbor austria has imposed a lockdown on the unvaxxed, and the rumor is germany is strongly considering doing the same, all you covid cheerleaders should be happy, with us dirty undesirables kept away from you...
Do you have blind eyes for the reality and only eyes for your own concern?
If you have no covid around you and your place, then be glad. But dont think that this is the reality for millions other people.
Imagine you have a heart attack. But the next hospitals to you are full. Because of this the ambulance has to search and search a hospital with has capiticity to take care on you. This situation we have in already 50 countys in our country. Because of what? Unvaccined covid patients. This is our reality and the peak is not reached. Today we had the highest number ( oder 65000) of infections since beginning of the Pandemie. And the unknown number may be the double.
People like my sister in law listenes to such fearspreader like you and avoid the vaccine.
Now in her working place many workers got Covid and she is afraid to get it too.
Btw the most infections are in the east and south, where the vaccine level is low (around 60%)
Sit in your shelter, but dont tell people to avoid the vaccine without heavy reason.
 

Aidan1

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actually, no I do not

I don't have a clue

I would not have quoted it if I had understood it

please do not assume what I do or do not understand
Oh sorry.
The phrase: Why you put the shoe on? means:
Why you take it for personally, what is said to someone else.
Or: Why you feel adressed?
 

Aidan1

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Literal Nazis they are.

On another front, I cannot wait for the day of reckoning for the satanic people responsible for creating the virus, gene therapy, and the murder and mayhem they are causing:



Heartbroken parents accuse gov’t of misleading public after their kids were injured, died following COVID shot

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/h...-kids-were-injured-died-following-covid-shot/
Is it not you who mentioned in a former post that a 12 years old german boy died after vaccation. And gave the vaccine the blame?
For to be fair you should also mention the result of the autopsy?
 

Aidan1

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Is it not you who mentioned in a former post that a 12 years old german boy died after vaccation. And gave the vaccine the blame?
For to be fair you should also mention the result of the autopsy?
I meant of course vaccination.
 
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Oh sorry.
The phrase: Why you put the shoe on? means:
Why you take it for personally, what is said to someone else.
Or: Why you feel adressed?
ok

I've never heard that one before

thanks
 

Aidan1

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Literal Nazis they are.

On another front, I cannot wait for the day of reckoning for the satanic people responsible for creating the virus, gene therapy, and the murder and mayhem they are causing:



Heartbroken parents accuse gov’t of misleading public after their kids were injured, died following COVID shot

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/h...-kids-were-injured-died-following-covid-shot/
Fine that in your eyes germans and austrians are still nazis! Great to hesr this from a so called follower of Christ.
 
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Fine that in your eyes germans and austrians are still nazis! Great to hesr this from a so called follower of Christ.
Not sure why he is so angry. Something set him off. I do not recognize him
 
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