Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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JohnDB

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The shots do not prevent. Division is their intent. It's working. Let's not allow it to divide the body of Christ.
Actually vaccinations reduce the number of variants with viruses... been plenty of studies that prove just that.

BUT

The vaccinations will not stop them. Just slow them down a LOT. We haven't stopped influenza. But most of the current variants are just recycled over and over again. That's not to say that one which is deadly with a long incubation period isn't coming. It just hasn't happened yet.

Covid 19 currently has a 10 day incubation period... influenza has 24hrs.
Oh it's coming...and it's going to hurt. Especially since so many people want to become variant factories.
 

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Sure the antivax campaigns are bogus lies aimed at destroying conservative Christians...but many are swallowing it hook, line and sinker to their doom and the next generations doom.

I'm thinking God wants rid of the ones that believe these lies too from earth as well... otherwise they wouldn't believe such a delusion. Such a pity...
This is a rather ignorant statement.

Has God ever wanted his people to put their faith in Government or anything else other than him?

Daniel got threw in the lion's den for not following the king's command...but the Lord stopped the mouths of the Lions.

The three Hebrew children got thrown in the fiery furnace because they would not bow to the king. The fire was so hot it killed the guards who threw them in; however, the three Hebrew children walked through the fire unharmed. And there was a fourth man like unto the Son of God walking with them.

Our walk with God is all about faith....but if you want to take the vaccines and put your trust in them....go ahead knock yourself out. It's up to you.

But for the love of God don't get on here judging others or trying to pretend that you somehow speak for God. That is a foolish thing to do.
 

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This is a rather ignorant statement.

Has God ever wanted his people to put their faith in Government or anything else other than him?

Daniel got threw in the lion's den for not following the king's command...but the Lord stopped the mouths of the Lions.

The three Hebrew children got thrown in the fiery furnace because they would not bow to the king. The fire was so hot it killed the guards who threw them in; however, the three Hebrew children walked through the fire unharmed. And there was a fourth man like unto the Son of God walking with them.

Our walk with God is all about faith....but if you want to take the vaccines and put your trust in them....go ahead knock yourself out. It's up to you.

But for the love of God don't get on here judging others or trying to pretend that you somehow speak for God. That is a foolish thing to do.
Remember Hezekiah?
He did all he could do to stop the army coming to besiege Jerusalem and then he prayed.

Look, if God wants you dead no vaccine in the world has a chance of working....but at the same time you don't go walking into an infectious disease ward at the hospital without protection either. (Over temptation and testing are strongly discouraged by scriptures)

And as far as speaking for God?
Nope.

I'm just stating the blatantly obvious truth.
 

1ofthem

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Ah ... back to the "sucks to be you" response.
Who knows, it may suck to be you...

You do know we reap what we sow, right.

Can't imagine God would be pleased with your attitude.

Do what you got to do and stop judging everyone else!

It's as simple as that...you have put your faith in a vaccine. You have been vaxxed so stop with the fearmongering. What are you so afraid of anyhow. You took the shot because you were told it will protect you from the virus. You either trust that the vaccine will save you or you don't.

You've already taken it...you can't go back...so let's hope it does work for your sake.
 

JohnDB

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The three Hebrew children got thrown in the fiery furnace because they would not bow to the king. The fire was so hot it killed the guards who threw them in; however, the three Hebrew children walked through the fire unharmed. And there was a fourth man like unto the Son of God walking with them.
They weren't children...grown adult men who were leaders of the Israelites in Captivity for syncretism of Judaism with other religions...they were not supporting of further syncretism and got thrown into the furnace for their beliefs.

You aren't a spiritual leader recognized by anyone as such for the nation...just a person in their mother's basement playing in the computer...huge difference.
 

1ofthem

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Remember Hezekiah?
He did all he could do to stop the army coming to besiege Jerusalem and then he prayed.
Let's also remember how God added 15 years to Hezekiah's life. There were no shots or meds involved.
Look, if God wants you dead no vaccine in the world has a chance of working....but at the same time you don't go walking into an infectious disease ward at the hospital without protection either. (Over temptation and testing are strongly discouraged by scriptures)
And who is telling anyone to do that? But I also still believe in healing...so we have to do what God tells us to do. If God sends someone out to a sick ward then there would be no danger. Was Jesus ever afraid of any lepers? No, he walked in the power of God and was about his father's business....Which is what we are called to do as well.

Oh ye, of little faith.

And as far as speaking for God?
Nope.

I'm just stating the blatantly obvious truth.
Yes, I agree you are definitely not speaking for God.
 

JohnDB

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Let's also remember how God added 15 years to Hezekiah's life. There were no shots or meds involved.

And who is telling anyone to do that? But I also still believe in healing...so we have to do what God tells us to do. If God sends someone out to a sick ward then there would be no danger. Was Jesus ever afraid of any lepers? No, he walked in the power of God and was about his father's business....Which is what we are called to do as well.

Oh ye, of little faith.


Yes, I agree you are definitely not speaking for God.
So the "oh ye of little faith" thingy is your attempt to speak for Jesus?

That's extremely courageous... risking your immortal soul when you have already have exhibited severe limitations with hermeneutics.

I don't think you understand the difference between exercising faith and over tempting....in fact I'm pretty sure of it by your statements.
 

1ofthem

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They weren't children...grown adult men who were leaders of the Israelites in Captivity for syncretism of Judaism with other religions...they were not supporting of further syncretism and got thrown into the furnace for their beliefs.

You aren't a spiritual leader recognized by anyone as such for the nation...just a person in their mother's basement playing in the computer...huge difference.
You are completely blinded. It would be funny... if it wasn't so serious and sad.

You don't have a clue who you are talking to...yet, you come up with this silly childish nonsense at the end of your post. That just shows exactly how wrong you are and how far your heart really is away from God.

You are vaxxed and still in complete fear for your life and have no faith in God whatsoever. Yet, I'm still not judging you. You can get vaxxed every day for all I care, but as I said previously you really need to quit judging others and acting like you are somehow speaking for God.

I don't appreciate your rude childish comment, either. I could get just as rude, but I'm not going to lower myself to that level seeing how it is not pleasing to God.
 

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So the "oh ye of little faith" thingy is your attempt to speak for Jesus?

That's extremely courageous... risking your immortal soul when you have already have exhibited severe limitations with hermeneutics.

I don't think you understand the difference between exercising faith and over tempting....in fact I'm pretty sure of it by your statements.
No, that's actually Jesus' words, not mine. Look it up...lol

Seriously though, I've read where you have judged others and tried to condemn them saying that God actually wants them dead...

.So here's another biblical statement that you might want to pay attention to....we will all reap what we sow....

And just cause I'm feeling generous today...Here's another....blessed are the merciful for they will obtain mercy.
 

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You are completely blinded. It would be funny... if it wasn't so serious and sad.

You don't have a clue who you are talking to...yet, you come up with this silly childish nonsense at the end of your post. That just shows exactly how wrong you are and how far your heart really is away from God.

You are vaxxed and still in complete fear for your life and have no faith in God whatsoever. Yet, I'm still not judging you. You can get vaxxed every day for all I care, but as I said previously you really need to quit judging others and acting like you are somehow speaking for God.

I don't appreciate your rude childish comment, either. I could get just as rude, but I'm not going to lower myself to that level seeing how it is not pleasing to God.
So you have more Holy Spirit in your pinky toe than I do in my whole body eh?
But at the same time don't know the story of Shadrach Meshach and Abednego in it's entirety.
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Claim to psychically know my vaccination status and complete thoughts on the subject.

WOW....

Just wow.
 

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No, that's actually Jesus' words, not mine. Look it up...lol

Seriously though, I've read where you have judged others and tried to condemn them saying that God actually wants them dead...

.So here's another biblical statement that you might want to pay attention to....we will all reap what we sow....

And just cause I'm feeling generous today...Here's another....blessed are the merciful for they will obtain mercy.
I'm saying that the natural consequences of not taking vaccines is a shortened lifespan. That since it seems to be centered on the Christian community...that's unique and should be something to take notice of.

Because Christians don't believe in voodoo and hocus pocus. We believe in truth (generally speaking). But now a huge contingent is under a delusion.

I'm not here to fight it....just stating the obvious. Just like the pharisees didn't recognize Jesus when he performed blatant obvious miracles there is a huge contingent of the Christian community that can't see the truth either. In fact they would rather believe anything else but the truth...all the way to scripture twisting to make it work in their heads.
 

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So you have more Holy Spirit in your pinky toe than I do in my whole body eh?
But at the same time don't know the story of Shadrach Meshach and Abednego in it's entirety.
AND
Like I said before...I could care less about your vaccination status. It doesn't matter to me in the least.... Unlike you, I'm not fearmongering over what others choose to do.
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Claim to psychically know my vaccination status and complete thoughts on the subject.

WOW....

Just wow.
And there is another mark against you...You are blatantly lying about what I have posted....

Why are you getting so upset?

Calm down? All this fear is not good for you. It is leading you to judge others, falsely ridiculing others, slinging insults, and just flat out lying.

Can't you see where all your fear leads? It's not of God and that is for sure. Again search the scriptures and you'll see! I promise it's in there!
 

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Like I said before...I could care less about your vaccination status. It doesn't matter to me in the least.... Unlike you, I'm not fearmongering over what others choose to do.


And there is another mark against you...You are blatantly lying about what I have posted....

Why are you getting so upset?

Calm down? All this fear is not good for you. It is leading you to judge others, falsely ridiculing others, slinging insults, and just flat out lying.

Can't you see where all your fear leads? It's not of God and that is for sure. Again search the scriptures and you'll see! I promise it's in there!
Im actually laughing...
If that's your definition of upset...I'm wondering exactly what dictionary you are using.

Let's try to use a similar one that the rest of the world uses eh?

It's either that or you simply aren't any good at social media.
 

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I'm saying that the natural consequences of not taking vaccines is a shortened lifespan. That since it seems to be centered on the Christian community...that's unique and should be something to take notice of.

Because Christians don't believe in voodoo and hocus pocus. We believe in truth (generally speaking). But now a huge contingent is under a delusion.

I'm not here to fight it....just stating the obvious. Just like the pharisees didn't recognize Jesus when he performed blatant obvious miracles there is a huge contingent of the Christian community that can't see the truth either. In fact they would rather believe anything else but the truth...all the way to scripture twisting to make it work in their heads.
And I'm saying do what you want but STOP judging others. And even hinting that God wants to wipe Christians who don't agree with your own personal opinion off the planet....I mean really????

What are you so afraid of? Why are you so upset? Seriously, it makes no sense.

So here goes one last attempt....Take the shot if you want don't if you don't want to. It's your choice.
 

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Im actually laughing...
If that's your definition of upset...I'm wondering exactly what dictionary you are using.

Let's try to use a similar one that the rest of the world uses eh?

It's either that or you simply aren't any good at social media.
God love your heart...I really am praying for you!
 

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And I'm saying do what you want but STOP judging others. And even hinting that God wants to wipe Christians who don't agree with your own personal opinion off the planet....I mean really????

What are you so afraid of? Why are you so upset? Seriously, it makes no sense.

So here goes one last attempt....Take the shot if you want don't if you don't want to. It's your choice.
And exactly how am I judging others?

Totally confused about that...I state the blatantly obvious truth and you consider that a judgement?

That is what is causing me all sorts of amusement this morning. I'm seriously giggling about it and yet you persist in saying that I'm upset and judging...which only makes me laugh harder.
 

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And exactly how am I judging others?

Totally confused about that...I state the blatantly obvious truth and you consider that a judgement?

That is what is causing me all sorts of amusement this morning. I'm seriously giggling about it and yet you persist in saying that I'm upset and judging...which only makes me laugh harder.
Well, all I can say is enjoy your laugh??? I mean, I don't see anything funny in what you posted that God wants to wipe Christians off the planet....

BUT

Hey

If you don't get it by now then you never will...so no need in me wasting any more of my time. I've said all I need to say...Maybe it will sink in and you'll get it.... Maybe not????
 
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Do you know the 2 year efficacy of the shot? 5 year? 10 year? Of course not, it has not been around that long. I trust my immune system and the frontline meds that have been around, used, and trusted.
What I do know, the [Same Process/Technique] for ALL Vaccines was used. Now, in OTHER Vaccinations, we've had similar death results but we still are giving those SAME Vaccines today. My understanding is that in within 1 year, 5 year, 10 year we will be having like results we have with other Booster/Vaccines. Even to this very day, and could even be happening today, a reliable Vaccine from our Past will kill someone.

*******Trump and Pence are at the [[ONE YEAR MARK of their Vaccination]]. They appear to be doing just fine!*******
 
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I really liked Donald Trump as The American President but do I have to agree with him on everything under the sun? No.

This jab doesn't work the same way as a vaccine. The science you so admire does not agree with your narrative.

They are not injecting a viral fragment but a code in the form of mRNA. Not to stimulate the immune system
but to turn the body into a factory producing S1 spike proteins similar to those found in coronavirus.
This isn't any secret or "conspiracy theory"


It's irrelevant what the ingredients are. They are injecting a code to make the body produce a pathogen.
And then hoping that the pathogen the body produces also elicits an immune response.


This can't honestly be called anything other than an experiment on the global population.
You may offer yourself as a guinea pig. I will not. You really don't have any right to counsel others to do so or to claim that
this experiment is safe in the long term. No one can possibly know these injections are safe. It's a gamble.
The {CODE} being injected is only a MASK, it cannot reproduce, but only Pretend to the Covid Virus to be as its Enemy causing it to move past CELLS [that CAN BE] affected.
You clearly have no idea what is going on!
 

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Well, all I can say is enjoy your laugh??? I mean, I don't see anything funny in what you posted that God wants to wipe Christians off the planet....

BUT

Hey

If you don't get it by now then you never will...so no need in me wasting any more of my time. I've said all I need to say...Maybe it will sink in and you'll get it.... Maybe not????
I don't get it...

Explain it like I'm someone who doesn't understand anything you have stated yet.

You claim I'm judging when I state the blatantly obvious truth.
You claim I'm upset when I Know mirth....
You claim to know all these things from scriptures but demonstrate a lack of biblical scholarship.

So...
Let's start from scratch here eh?

Explain how anything you have claimed should be taken at face value? I'm missing the logic.
 
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