What is the Difference Between a Prophet and a Seer?

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Well from what I have read ( not now but in the past ) it can be said basically one (a seer ) God has opened his eyes . ,and the second ( a prophet ) God has opened his mouth . There are times when God has done both . Basic explanation witch can be expounded pond . Also prophets in general were called seers at one time like in 1st Samuel 9: 9 (Formerly in Israel, when a man o went to inquire of God, he said, “Come, let us go to the seer,” for today’s “prophet” was formerly called a seer.)”.
Blessings
Bill
I think this article helps too....Good post by the way!

“I will stand my watch… to see what He will say to me…” (Habakkuk 2:1)
Simply expressed, prophecy can be defined as hearing the voice of God and speaking what He says. This gift is commonly experienced in two ways.
One is audial, meaning the one receiving the message hears words, which they then repeat/release. The other—the seer—is visual, meaning the receiver sees a message through some type of picture, which they then release. Generally, these pictures are either received while awake by means of visions, or while asleep through dreams. Many prophetic people will experience both aspects at various times, but they tend to have one that is more dominant or frequent.
In addition, there are two groups who practice the prophetic or seer anointing. Those in the first group exercise the gift of prophecy as recorded in 1 Corinthians 12:10 for the purpose of edification, exhortation and comfort. Those in the second are those who prophesy within the position and office of a prophet.
Not everyone who prophesies is a prophet; however, scripture reveals that we can all prophesy (1 Cor. 14:1, 31). This means that every Spirit-filled believer—including you—can develop in the prophetic!
Varieties Of the Seer Gifting

Visual images or impressions: Sometimes when praying or prophesying over someone, the Holy Spirit will reveal an image. For example, I might see a scripture written like a banner over someone’s head, or get a mental picture that gives direction.
Dreams: Dreams enrich your life by giving encouragement, direction, insight for intercession, and revelation. I get much of my personal prophetic revelation through words rather than pictures, yet I also get many spiritual dreams and visions. Unless you hold the office of a prophet, most dreams are likely for your personal benefit. (See Job 33:14-16.)
Visions: This category would include things like open visions, audible messages, angelic encounters, open heavens, trances, being caught up in the Spirit, and heavenly visitations.
(Due to space limitations, for further study of these expressions of the seer anointing, I recommend reading The Seer by James Goll.)
Developing The Gift

“Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do, for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner. For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself does…” (John 5:19, 20)
Pursuing Intimacy

Scripture does not reveal exactly how Jesus saw all that His Father was doing, but we do know that He and His Father were one. My sense is that Jesus moved more by the Holy Spirit giving Him knowledge of what His Father was doing, but He may also have had dreams at night, as well as visions in times of contemplation or prayer, which gave Him specific direction.
Regardless, just as Jesus made time to be alone with His Father and spent time in prayer, so should we. The more intimate we become with God, the more we will be able to see what it is that He’s doing. Make the Lord your focus, and prophetic revelation will follow!
Ask!

Once my life was transformed and I became Spirit-filled, I could not get enough of experiencing the Lord’s presence and hearing His voice! I immediately began to cry out to Him to speak to me, especially at night.
Each night, when I went to bed, I would ask the Lord to come to me in dreams, visions, angelic encounters, visitations or by transporting me to heaven! (I still do this.) Scriptures such as Joel 2:28-29, Matthew 7:7-12 and Luke 18:1-8 reinforced my resolve to ask.
Growth And Maturity

“And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries… but have not love, I am nothing.” (1 Cor. 13:2)
For those who wish to increase in their prophetic and seer anointing, some practical guidelines for growth and maturity follow:
- Remember: the purpose of a word is to edify, encourage and build up. Words of a corrective nature should generally be spoken by someone who walks in the office of a prophet (versus the gift of prophecy) and between those who have relationship.
- Be wary of releasing negative words. Ask yourself, “Does what I am about to speak release the Father’s heart and love for that person/group; is the word redemptive in nature?”
- Seek wisdom! Just because you sense/hear/see something does not mean it is supposed to be released. And timing is key—a word spoken out of season has limited, if any, anointing and can actually hinder what Holy Spirit is doing!
- Shortcomings you see in another might actually indicate something is your assignment. Recently, someone I had barely met asked if she could “pray with me”—then proceeded to tell me that in one area of ministry, I was “not doing it right.” When I sought the Lord, He reminded me of a principle I call dust on top of the fridge. A mentor I once had was fairly laid-back about housekeeping. She used to say that if you came to her house and noticed the coating of dust on the top of her fridge, it was likely you were the one who was supposed to clean it!
If you’d like to see more clearly, let me speak this prayer over you: Just as the Lord blesses me with dreams, visions, and supernatural encounters—so I bless you!


It's been too long since I looked at this gift.
 
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Two more, Moses, Noah
 
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Daniel was both
 

Laish

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Ok thanks . I will give it a read .
Not it that I will agree , you took the time to post ,so I can read it least . Even if I don't agree it will help me to understand where you are coming from. Thankyou again.
Blessings
Bill
 
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Moses a prophet and Noah a seer?
Both a seerprophet, Noah heard the word the flood is coming and he saw it come.

Now what do you think would be some things Moses heard and seen.
 
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Both a seerprophet, Noah heard the word the flood is coming and he saw it come.

Now what do you think would be some things Moses heard and seen.
I wonder if Noah saw it before it happened.
 

Zmouth

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(Beforetime in Israel, when a man went to inquire of God, thus he spake,

Come, and let us go to the seer:

for he that is now called a Prophet was beforetime called a Seer.)
 
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I can name prophets inspired and directed by God such as Daniel, Isaiah, Jeremiah etc.....but to name a Seer off the top of my head directed and inspired by God alludes me at the moment..... ;)
 

Laish

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Someone should make a Christian search engine called seer for biblical theology and topics.
I know I could use it more often than not.
Then we could use it an not use google.
Blessings
Bill
 

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I wonder if Noah saw it before it happened.
In the movie, he did :D

[video=youtube;_OSaJE2rqxU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OSaJE2rqxU&t=59s[/video]
 
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I can name prophets inspired and directed by God such as Daniel, Isaiah, Jeremiah etc.....but to name a Seer off the top of my head directed and inspired by God alludes me at the moment..... ;)
Samuel, Gad, Hanani, Jeduthun, Amos
 

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A prophet of God won't produce crab apples. :)

I used to eat them as a kid.
 

stonesoffire

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I kinda like them. Just don't want to produce them.

Now in saying this...not declaring I'm a prophet. Thought that needed clarifiying.
 
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Yes, and some believe prophets (and apostle) today are authorized by God to bring forth s-called revelation that does not agree or flow with God's written Word and is an excuse to introduce extra biblical teaching that is not of God and instead is of the devil... such as the "unity" teaching that is starting to embrace all religions (including cathloholics) even tho these other religions service other gods and otherwise do not hold to the sound doctrine of Jesus Christ and His Apostles with Jesus being the Chief Cornerstone that is not to be changed or tampered with.

This is apparent when you get over in to the charismatic camps and the NAR camps (new apostolic reformation) where they teach strange stuff not found in God's Word and their excuse is "this guy is a prophet" or "this guy is an apostle" as though people are supposed to drop their own walk with the Lord and their own study of His Word and just blindly follow... which is exactly what the devil would like to see people do!

Sure there are prophets and apostles in modern times... but what they say and teach must be judged according to what God's written Word says or... they are false prophets and apostles serving their own self interests instead of the Lord's.

Kinda like some of these popular TV preachers all clamoring the catholicks pope dude guy saying he's a real Christian and we need to all be in unity with him... now that's some false gospel there! I'm ain't praying to mary or any dead saints!

[FONT=&quot] Romans 16:17,18[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple

1 Timothy 6:3-5
If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

1 Timothy 4:1,2
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

2 Timothy 4:3,4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 John 1:10
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

Matthew 24:3-8
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ (I am anointed); and shall deceive many.
And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Titus 1:7-11
For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not self willed, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;
But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;
Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. [/FONT]
 
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In the movie, he did :D

[video=youtube;_OSaJE2rqxU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OSaJE2rqxU&t=59s[/video]
I'm going to have to see this movie for sure, honestly I didn't even know about this movie that came out in 2014, Huh gee I must be living under a rock or something.
 

notuptome

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No difference they both fall into the ditch.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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I'm going to have to see this movie for sure, honestly I didn't even know about this movie that came out in 2014, Huh gee I must be living under a rock or something.
I heard it was the hollyweird version so it does not hold true to scripture...