What is the Difference Between a Prophet and a Seer?

[Magenta]

I'm going to have to see this movie for sure, honestly I didn't even know about this movie that came out in 2014, Huh gee I must be living under a rock or something.

I really liked it. Of course being a Hollywood production, it is not totally true to Scripture, but it was still really well done, and the fact that Hollywood continues to consider Biblical stories worth telling keeps them in the public eye, as it were... have you seen the recently done Exodus: Gods and Kings? I really liked it as well, from the same year as Noah. Let me know what you think of Noah

[video=youtube;QBinkesx4hw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBinkesx4hw[/video]

 

[jb]

Within the overall realm of the prophet lies the particular and distinctive realm of the Seer. The word "seer" describes a particular type of prophet who receives a particular type of prophetic revelation or impartation.

The Old Testament uses two words primarily to refer to a seer: ra'ah and chozeh. Ra'ah literally means "to see," particularly in the sense of seeing visions. Other meanings include to "gaze," to "look upon," and to "perceive." Chozeh literally means "a beholder in vision" and can also be translated as "gazer" or "stargazer."

With these definitions now in place, the distinction between a prophet (nabiy') and a seer (ra'ah or chozeh) becomes a little clearer. When it comes to prophetic revelation, a prophet is primarily an inspired hearer and then speaker, while a seer is primarily visual. In other words, the prophet is the communicative dimension and the seer is the receptive dimension. Whereas nabiy emphasizes the active work of the prophet in speaking forth a message from God, ra'ah and chozeh focus on the experience or means by which the prophet "sees or perceives" that message.

The first lays emphasis on a prophet's relationship with the people; the other, on their revelatory relationship with God.

Unfortunately you're making something simple, complicated!

As already said a "seer" is just another name for a "prophet."

1Samuel 9v9: "(Beforetime in Israel, when a man went to inquire of God, thus he spake, Come, and let us go to the seer: for he that is now called a Prophet was beforetime called a Seer.)"

Simple as that!

 

[Meggido]

Unfortunately you're making something simple, complicated!

As already said a "seer" is just another name for a "prophet."

1Samuel 9v9: "(Beforetime in Israel, when a man went to inquire of God, thus he spake, Come, and let us go to the seer: for he that is now called a Prophet was beforetime called a Seer.)"

Simple as that!

this is like saying every preacher is a pastor.

 

[Denadii]

I kinda like them. Just don't want to produce them.

Now in saying this...not declaring I'm a prophet. Thought that needed clarifiying.

LOL I like them stewed or canned...That sweetens them up!


I've had some experience as a seer..Its amazing to see, or know ahead of time what is to happen or what someone is going through...God has showed me all sorts of 'irrelevant' things as a training tool....I know something and have to ask Him.."What am I supposed to do with that?'" Its to train me to trust in the gift. I tend to second guess and miss a lot. Bad habit. I understand why a prophet, a real prophet does not tell people why he is not a prophet....Its because he does not want to be. Its far more 'scary' than, for example, the gift of healing... With the gift of healing you can lay hands on someone and minister then forget it.Knowing that everybody Jesus ever healed, died. You pray for them and you can forget about it. Leaving it with Father...But you minister to somebody is the prophesy realm and miss the mark...Everybody wants to stone you.

 

[Denadii]

I'm going to have to see this movie for sure, honestly I didn't even know about this movie that came out in 2014, Huh gee I must be living under a rock or something.

Just so you know? This movie does NOT line up with Word at all...They used the story of Noah to make a movie..Not to teach any kind of truth.

 

[Denadii]

Unfortunately you're making something simple, complicated!

As already said a "seer" is just another name for a "prophet."

1Samuel 9v9: "(Beforetime in Israel, when a man went to inquire of God, thus he spake, Come, and let us go to the seer: for he that is now called a Prophet was beforetime called a Seer.)"

Simple as that!

You miss the point...A seer is a prophet yes...But not the same kind of prophet as one called prophet. Read my post again...This time finish it before you formulate an answer. The prophet is told what will happen and knows that way, with the occasional exception..The Seer SEES the thing. He can touch it, feel it, smell it..It is just as real to him in vision as it is is fact. JUST AS REAL! It exists in his now. I'm sure you cannot comprehend that. But be polite and try ok?

 

[Ariel82]

Jeremiah 23:38 ►
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
Although you claim, 'This is a message from the LORD,' this is what the LORD says: You used the words, 'This is a message from the LORD,' even though I told you that you must not claim, 'This is a message from the LORD.'

New Living Translation
But suppose they respond, 'This is a prophecy from the LORD!' Then you should say, 'This is what the LORD says: Because you have used this phrase, "prophecy from the LORD," even though I warned you not to use it,

English Standard Version
But if you say, ‘The burden of the LORD,’ thus says the LORD, ‘Because you have said these words, “The burden of the LORD,” when I sent to you, saying, “You shall not say, ‘The burden of the LORD,’”

New American Standard Bible
"For if you say, 'The oracle of the LORD!' surely thus says the LORD, 'Because you said this word, "The oracle of the LORD!" I have also sent to you, saying, "You shall not say, 'The oracle of the LORD!'"'

King James Bible
But since ye say, The burden of the LORD; therefore thus saith the LORD; Because ye say this word, The burden of the LORD, and I have sent unto you, saying, Ye shall not say, The burden of the LORD;

Holman Christian Standard Bible
But if you say, 'The burden of the LORD,' then this is what the LORD says: Because you have said, 'The burden of the LORD,' and I specifically told you not to say, 'The burden of the LORD,'

International Standard Version
Since you're saying, 'We have an oracle of the LORD,' therefore this is what the LORD says: He will answer your message with this message, 'Burden of the LORD,' and I'll send you away with these words: 'Don't say, "Oracle of the LORD."'

 

[Zmouth]

You miss the point...A seer is a prophet yes...But not the same kind of prophet as one called prophet. Read my post again...This time finish it before you formulate an answer.

And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have
made thee a God to Pharaoh : and Aaron
thy brother shall be thy prophet.


Exodus 7:1

And a prophet merely spoke for God of the people.

 

[Denadii]

And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have
made thee a God to Pharaoh : and Aaron
thy brother shall be thy prophet.


Exodus 7:1

And a prophet merely spoke for God of the people.

Yes that kind of prophet did ...Are you basing all of your opinion on one verse?

 

[samuel23]

The seer can often see what problem a person is grappling with..and can offer the knowledge to overcome it. Or encouragement to a person who is hurting and doesn't know why.....like that.

Hey Den, that would be the gift of knowledge if you are a Christian. I operated in that gift once and it happened like this. Every time we would have a prayer meeting I would see(I my mind) an image of this lady from the neck up and she would always look terrified, when this happened I would pray for her. Finally I told the Pastor and he said you are dead on but I cannot tell you about it. Well as time passed I got to know the lady and her husband. It seems that she had a scary experience with a demonic person when she was young and she was actually afraid of the Devil and would wake up at night with a feeling like she was being choked, and it only stopped when her husband would wake up and rebuke the Devil. At the time God was showing this to me I had never been introduced to the couple and knew nothing about them at all.

 

[Denadii]

Hey Den, that would be the gift of knowledge if you are a Christian. I operated in that gift once and it happened like this. Every time we would have a prayer meeting I would see(I my mind) an image of this lady from the neck up and she would always look terrified, when this happened I would pray for her. Finally I told the Pastor and he said you are dead on but I cannot tell you about it. Well as time passed I got to know the lady and her husband. It seems that she had a scary experience with a demonic person when she was young and she was actually afraid of the Devil and would wake up at night with a feeling like she was being choked, and it only stopped when her husband would wake up and rebuke the Devil. At the time God was showing this to me I had never been introduced to the couple and knew nothing about them at all.

Yes..Usually a seer knows what he is looking at...and most often he knows how to deal with it...But keep in mind....Its not the prophet or the seer...Its the Lord

 

[BeyondET]

I really liked it. Of course being a Hollywood production, it is not totally true to Scripture, but it was still really well done, and the fact that Hollywood continues to consider Biblical stories worth telling keeps them in the public eye, as it were... have you seen the recently done Exodus: Gods and Kings? I really liked it as well, from the same year as Noah. Let me know what you think of Noah

[video=youtube;QBinkesx4hw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBinkesx4hw[/video]

Wow 2014 must of been the year of the bible movies, sadly I missed that one also, this is good I have two movies to watch that I haven't seen yet,

 

[Magenta]

Just so you know? This movie does NOT line up with Word at all...They used the story of Noah to make a movie..Not to teach any kind of truth.

I am not sure how you can say that with a clear conscience...
of course there was Biblical truth in the movie! A man named Noah
was called by God to build an ark in preparation for the flooding of
the world due to the great wickedness of man upon the earth. Noah
and his family, plus all the animals on the ark, were saved because
Noah obeyed God. I would recommend it to anyone But then
again, I find value in looking at things from different perspectives...

Noah was a prophet

 

[Denadii]

Unfortunately you're making something simple, complicated!

As already said a "seer" is just another name for a "prophet."

1Samuel 9v9: "(Beforetime in Israel, when a man went to inquire of God, thus he spake, Come, and let us go to the seer: for he that is now called a Prophet was beforetime called a Seer.)"

Simple as that!

Again a single verse to form an opinion on...With such slim pickings on the word you cannot know what you are talking about. I agree that both a prophet and a seer are prophets...No problem. But I noted the differences between the two...Its obvious that you did NOT read it. Or did not think about it. A seer is NOT just another name for prophet...

 

[Denadii]

I am not sure how you can say that with a clear conscience...
of course there was Biblical truth in the movie! A man named Noah
was called by God to build an ark in preparation for the flooding of
the world due to the great wickedness of man upon the earth. Noah
and his family, plus all the animals on the ark, were saved because
Noah obeyed God. I would recommend it to anyone But then
again, I find value in looking at things from different perspectives...

Noah was a prophet

Now why would anybody take offense at an opinion of somebody else? Kind of silly don't you think?

Noah was a prophet......This statement has been controversial for the entire life of the church, two thousand years...That point is still not settled, whether or not he was a prophet. Calling him a prophet is only your opinion

 

[BeyondET]

Just so you know? This movie does NOT line up with Word at all...They used the story of Noah to make a movie..Not to teach any kind of truth.

Yea I know that's why it's called the movies, but a can enjoy a nice movie flick,

These movies of the bible may not totally line up with scripture, but I can imagine a scenario in which say a non believer/atheist going to see the movie Noah because he or she heard the special effects was cool and then walking out and thinking scratching their head and saying "huh I wonder" then opening up a bible and start reading and it changed their life. it can be possible,, anything can be possible God works in mysterious ways.

 

[Denadii]

Yea I know that's why it's called the movies, but a can enjoy a nice movie flick,

These movies of the bible may not totally line up with scripture, but I can imagine a scenario in which say a non believer/atheist going to see the movie Noah because he or she heard the special effects was cool and then walking out and thinking scratching their head and saying "huh I wonder" then opening up a bible and start reading and it changed their life. it can be possible,, anything can be possible God works in mysterious ways.

Yeah It could be a good action movie as long as one does not expect a true story

 

[jb]

You miss the point...A seer is a prophet yes...But not the same kind of prophet as one called prophet. Read my post again...This time finish it before you formulate an answer. The prophet is told what will happen and knows that way, with the occasional exception..The Seer SEES the thing. He can touch it, feel it, smell it..It is just as real to him in vision as it is is fact. JUST AS REAL! It exists in his now. I'm sure you cannot comprehend that. But be polite and try ok?

It's quite obvious you are somewhat mixed up on the ministry of prophet/seer!

Go and do a FULL study off it from Gen 1v1 to Rev 22v21, THEN you will have done it justice!

 

[Denadii]

It's quite obvious you are somewhat mixed up on the ministry of prophet/seer!

Go and do a FULL study off it from Gen 1v1 to Rev 22v21, THEN you will have done it justice!

I'm not like some I do my research before I talk....

The fact of the matter is....What I said was not at all complicated...Did you have trouble understanding it? I could translate it for you.

Try this... One ministry, two main facets The hearer and the seer....How's that? Simple enough for you to understand?

 

[Zmouth]

I'm not like some I do my research before I talk....

Can I ask if you taught yourself how to read and write the written spoken word without the assistance of anyone else or were you taught how to read and write by somebody else?

The fact of the matter is....What I said was not at all complicated...Did you have trouble understanding it? I could translate it for you.

Actually, I already know the answer to the question I asked you. You were taught how to read by somebody else. But do you remember your teachers name that taught you how to read and write the written word?

Try this... One ministry, two main facets The hearer and the seer....How's that? Simple enough for you to understand?

Simple enough to understand that the error of your two facets since you don't remember who taught you how to read.

And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.
Numbers 12:6

A prophet is merely someone who claims to speak in the name of the LORD.

When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. Deut 18:22

And while it is impressive when someone can foretell future events, it had nothing to do with any divine act of the LORD.

1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
Deut 13:1-3

It is kind of humorous how believers can actually believe that the LORD needs man to speak on his behalf. But of course all things are possible to those who believe. Yet doesn't' needing a mortal to speak for your God demonstrate his impotence rather than the omnipotence of the LORD.

So in Genesis 20, who was the seer, who was the prophet and who was the King?