Where in the BIBLE DOES the sole have everlasting life ???????

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dcontroversal

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posthuman said:
The same destiny overtakes all. ​
(Ecclesiastes 9:3) ​
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the dust returns to the ground it came from,​
and the spirit returns to God who gave it.​
(Ecclesiastes 12:7) ​
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existence is eternal, because it derives from the Eternal One who created you.
whether we rise to eternal life or to eternal death -- as God defines life and death -- hinges on being found in Christ.
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If people understood death under the banner of separation which is what death actually means, then they would grasp the eternal aspect of the human spirit....

Physical death --> the spirit separated from the body

Eternal death -->the spirit separated from God

The concept of death literally portrays separation.........!
 
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dcontroversal said:
If people understood death under the banner of separation which is what death actually means, then they would grasp the eternal aspect of the human spirit....

Physical death --> the spirit separated from the body

Eternal death -->the spirit separated from God

The concept of death literally portrays separation.........!
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To ME you don't even Know what DEATH IS ,It is to be separated ALL right , Eterally GONE ,AS up in SMOKE .AND their ashes the righteous shall trade upon , JUST like Mal 3:3 GOD says they Will ,& I believe GOD . THEY will PERISH LIKE THEIR OEN DUNG . WHEN something perishes IT IS GONE .NEVER TO be anymore . The eternal punishment IS to be eternally GONE .
 
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To ME you don't even Know what DEATH IS ,It is to be separated ALL right , Eterally GONE ,AS up in SMOKE .AND their ashes the righteous shall trade upon , JUST like Mal 3:3 GOD says they Will ,& I believe GOD . THEY will PERISH LIKE THEIR OEN DUNG . WHEN something perishes IT IS GONE .NEVER TO be anymore . The eternal punishment IS to be eternally GONE .
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I get a sense that matter and anti-matter are about to collide.
 
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Deade said:
Quit being a smart Alec. Bud may not be expressing himself perfectly, but he has a valid argument. Wise cracking will not gain you any favors here.
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I am not directing this at Bud. I am making the point that two strong headed individuals are about to come face to face with opposing viewpoints (DCON and Bud). I was responding to Bud's response to DCON....
 
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I am not directing this at Bud. I am making the point that two strong headed individuals are about to come face to face with opposing viewpoints (DCON and Bud). I was responding to Bud's response to DCON....
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Oh, sorry. Well DCon need a little buffering in his delivery, also. He has strong opinion but his delivery is often offensive. You catch bees with honey than vinegar.
 
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Do believe this is it for me in this thread. Not looking too good....
 
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To ME you don't even Know what DEATH IS ,It is to be separated ALL right , Eterally GONE ,AS up in SMOKE .AND their ashes the righteous shall trade upon , JUST like Mal 3:3 GOD says they Will ,& I believe GOD . THEY will PERISH LIKE THEIR OEN DUNG . WHEN something perishes IT IS GONE .NEVER TO be anymore . The eternal punishment IS to be eternally GONE .
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What you think = jack crap......the bible is clear......
 
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Oh, sorry. Well DCon need a little buffering in his delivery, also. He has strong opinion but his delivery is often offensive. You catch bees with honey than vinegar.
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We are not catching bees or flies......wake up....the truth by it's very nature is offensive and God uses many imperfect men and women with different styles, approaches and demeanors to deliver his perfect message
 
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dcontroversal said:
What you think = jack crap......the bible is clear......
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Now that was funny hah!
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Well I DON'T thing you will find JESUS CALL THE people NAMEs , AND It sure is NOT CHRIST LIKE . BUT I love YOU & JESUS in loves you even more . But may GOD open your eyes to some of the Things you believe . YOU calling me names ,Dose not make you right . & it is wrong .
 
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If they have fillings ,pain ,can see , & tast . They would be alive
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you seem to only speak of life as the animation of these bodies of dust we inhabit.
do understand that life is more than the flesh?

But concerning the dead rising, have you not read about the burning bush in the Book of Moses, how God told him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken! ​
(Mark 12:26-27)​

the bodies of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob had all returned to dust when He said this, but He calls them alive.
life therefore is not the body; the flesh is not the person. we have to get that straight
 
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Well I DON'T thing you will find JESUS CALL THE people NAMEs , AND It sure is NOT CHRIST LIKE . BUT I love YOU & JESUS in loves you even more . But may GOD open your eyes to some of the Things you believe . YOU calling me names ,Dose not make you right . & it is wrong .
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He didn't hmmmmm read the bible...

Blind leaders of the blind
White washed coffins with dead men's bones
Fools
Hypocrites

They were not terms of endearment....!!!


And I did not even address you and you got mouthy with me...take your own meds pal!
 
dcontroversal

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Amd I did not call you names, but referenced your opinion of me.....end of story!
 
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bud62 said:
To ME you don't even Know what DEATH IS ,It is to be separated ALL right , Eterally GONE ,AS up in SMOKE .AND their ashes the righteous shall trade upon , JUST like Mal 3:3 GOD says they Will ,& I believe GOD . THEY will PERISH LIKE THEIR OEN DUNG . WHEN something perishes IT IS GONE .NEVER TO be anymore . The eternal punishment IS to be eternally GONE .
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do you believe Adam and Woman were dead in the day they ate of the tree?
 
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1 Peter 3

18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19 by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison,

- look closely at verse 19.
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IF you look at that again ,you will see that HE was quickened .Which means that he was resurrected & then went and preached to those Who were in prison .Those that are in sin, are in prison , JESUS says , Like Peter when He denied HIM ,HE even went to him , And all the rest of them ,
 
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bud62 said:
To ME you don't even Know what DEATH IS ,It is to be separated ALL right , Eterally GONE ,AS up in SMOKE .AND their ashes the righteous shall trade upon , JUST like Mal 3:3 GOD says they Will ,& I believe GOD . THEY will PERISH LIKE THEIR OEN DUNG . WHEN something perishes IT IS GONE .NEVER TO be anymore . The eternal punishment IS to be eternally GONE .
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how does Ephesians say we were 'dead' in our sins?
how does Romans say we 'have died' to sin, and to the law?
they're not talking about death in the sense of annihilation. they can't be. and they're also not talking about death in the sense of the flesh returning to dust. they can't be.

we have to understand death in the way the Bible talks about it. there is more than one death. the body returning to dust is only one kind of death - the human definition of death. but God speaks about people whose bodies have returned to dust as being alive. God knows that people are too dim to understand this - so He sometimes uses the word death with the human connotation of it -- as He is telling the disciples that Lazarus is only sleeping, for example, but they cannot comprehend Him ((John 11))
 
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bud62 said:
No Adam lived 930 , so no he did not die that day,
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then why/how does God say 'in the day you eat of it, dying you will die' ?

what happened to Woman, and to Adam, when they ate? how were their bodies affected? how were their spirits affected?
God describes it as death.
 
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