Who Justifieth the Ungodly

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Non imputation of sin is a Gospel Doctrine 2 Cor 5:19

what Scripture teaches ...

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

please note that the not imputing their trespasses unto them is conditioned upon reconciliation [Greek katallassó].

I have gone over the Greek word katallassó with you in the past, brightfame52:

The word "reconciling" is translated from the Greek word katallássō which means decisively change, as when two parties reconcile when coming ("changing") to the same position.

Reconciliation on the part of God to mankind took place before the foundation of the world.

Reconciliation on the part of man to God takes place at the time a person turns to God in faith ... at that point the "non imputation of sin" occurs.

Those who reject God even as He reaches out to them are not reconciled to God ... not because God has not made provision for them, but because they reject that which God has provided for them to be reconciled to God.


Those who turn to God in faith are the ones to whom God does not impute sin ... just as shown in the following Scripture:

Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted [Gr katallassó] unto him for righteousness.

Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted [Gr katallassó] for righteousness.

Romans 4:19-24 He [Abraham] staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. And therefore it was imputed [Gr katallassó] to him for righteousness. Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed [Gr katallassó] to him; But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed [Gr katallassó], if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead

Galatians 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted [Gr katallassó] to him for righteousness.

James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed [Gr katallassó] unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
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All for whom Christ died

what Scripture teaches:

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

they are Justified solely by His death

what Scripture teaches:

1 Corinthians 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
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what Scripture teaches ...

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

please note that the not imputing their trespasses unto them is conditioned upon reconciliation [Greek katallassó].

I have gone over the Greek word katallassó with you in the past, brightfame52:

The word "reconciling" is translated from the Greek word katallássō which means decisively change, as when two parties reconcile when coming ("changing") to the same position.

Reconciliation on the part of God to mankind took place before the foundation of the world.

Reconciliation on the part of man to God takes place at the time a person turns to God in faith ... at that point the "non imputation of sin" occurs.

Those who reject God even as He reaches out to them are not reconciled to God ... not because God has not made provision for them, but because they reject that which God has provided for them to be reconciled to God.


Those who turn to God in faith are the ones to whom God does not impute sin ... just as shown in the following Scripture:

Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted [Gr katallassó] unto him for righteousness.

Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted [Gr katallassó] for righteousness.

Romans 4:19-24 He [Abraham] staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. And therefore it was imputed [Gr katallassó] to him for righteousness. Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed [Gr katallassó] to him; But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed [Gr katallassó], if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead

Galatians 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted [Gr katallassó] to him for righteousness.

James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed [Gr katallassó] unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
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Non imputation of sin is Justification and reconciliation, and these apply to all for whom Christ died, since their sins have been imputed to Him, and His Righteousness in exchange has been imputed to them, you dont believe this, you are yet in unbelief, to this very minute.

 

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what Scripture teaches:

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.





what Scripture teaches:

1 Corinthians 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
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All for whom Christ died, by that Death of His for them, has Justified them before God Rom 5:9 if you dont believe that, you have no faith in His Blood, you are in unbelief. And Christ didn't die for anyone who isnt Justified from all sin !

 

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Justification and reconciliation, and these apply to all for whom Christ died

"Justification" ... what Scripture teaches:

Romans 4:

20 He [Abraham] staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;

21 And being fully persuaded that, what he [God] had promised, he [God] was able also to perform.

22 And therefore it was imputed to him [Abraham] for righteousness.

23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;

24 But for us also, to whom it [righteousness] shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

5:1 Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ


"reconciliation" ... what Scripture teaches:

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

please note that the not imputing their trespasses unto them is conditioned upon reconciliation [Greek katallassó].

The word "reconciling" is translated from the Greek word katallássō which means decisively change, as when two parties reconcile when coming ("changing") to the same position.

Reconciliation on the part of God to mankind took place before the foundation of the world.

Reconciliation on the part of man to God takes place at the time a person turns to God in faith ... at that point the "non imputation of sin" occurs.

Those who reject God even as He reaches out to them are not reconciled to God ... not because God has not made provision for them, but because they reject that which God has provided for them to be reconciled to God.

Those who turn to God in faith are the ones to whom God does not impute sin.


"all for whom Christ died" ... what Scripture teaches:

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

 

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All for whom Christ died, by that Death of His for them, has Justified them before God

please consider the full counsel of God:

1 Corinthians 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
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"Justification" ... what Scripture teaches:

Romans 4:

20 He [Abraham] staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;

21 And being fully persuaded that, what he [God] had promised, he [God] was able also to perform.

22 And therefore it was imputed to him [Abraham] for righteousness.

23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;

24 But for us also, to whom it [righteousness] shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

5:1 Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ


"reconciliation" ... what Scripture teaches:

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

please note that the not imputing their trespasses unto them is conditioned upon reconciliation [Greek katallassó].

The word "reconciling" is translated from the Greek word katallássō which means decisively change, as when two parties reconcile when coming ("changing") to the same position.

Reconciliation on the part of God to mankind took place before the foundation of the world.

Reconciliation on the part of man to God takes place at the time a person turns to God in faith ... at that point the "non imputation of sin" occurs.

Those who reject God even as He reaches out to them are not reconciled to God ... not because God has not made provision for them, but because they reject that which God has provided for them to be reconciled to God.

Those who turn to God in faith are the ones to whom God does not impute sin.


"all for whom Christ died" ... what Scripture teaches:

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

So you deny that those for whom Christ died were Justified by His death, that's unbelief !

 

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please consider the full counsel of God:

1 Corinthians 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
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You continue to deny that people for whom Christ died, are by His death Justified, so that's not faith in His blood, but unbelief. Christs resurrection is evidence that the ones He died for are not in their sins, but Justified. Rom 4:25

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification

You deny the very scripture you quoted, dont even believe it !

 

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But believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly

Rom 4:5

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth [declare righteous] the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

This is one of the most abused and misunderstood scriptures in Romans 4, for what its saying is mostly denied by mans religion. The Truth here being stated is that God has justified men/women while being ungodly, thats why its followed by Vs 6

Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

This means before the person could believe, repent or do any obedience, they were Justified while being ungodly. Its the same truth but stated differently as Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

That is, when believers were still enemies, hating God, they were reconciled [put into a right relationship] to God ! How ? By the death of His Son.

So both are true and the same. So if we dont believe this, we dont have God given Faith and are yet in unbelief. Only God given Faith will receive that people were Justified before God by Christ's death while they were being enemies/ungodly !

 

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Justified by God by non imputation!

What do I mean? Those whom nothing can be laid to their charge, namely Gods Elect, of them it's said, it is God that Justified Rom 8:33

Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.


So the non imputation of sins charged equates to God Justifying. The World in 2 Cor 5:19, is a Justified world! 23

 

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people for whom Christ died, are by His death Justified

1 Corinthians 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

Christs resurrection is evidence that the ones He died for are not in their sins

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"Christs resurrection is evidence that" the Lord Jesus Christ is the resurrection and the life and those who believe in Him shall live:

John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live


"Christs resurrection is evidence that" it was impossible for death to hold Him:

Acts 2:24 Whom [the Lord Jesus Christ] God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he [the Lord Jesus Christ] should be holden of it.


"Christs resurrection is evidence that" the hope of the born again ones is a living hope:

1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead



READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
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Rom 4:5

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth [declare righteous] the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

This is one of the most abused and misunderstood scriptures

The verse is abused most by those who claim that faith on the part of the believer is "works".

The verse is misunderstood by those who claim that a person is justified when he or she is "ungodly".

Romans 4:

2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Romans 4 clearly states that faith is not works. Additionally, the moment a person believes, that person is no longer ungodly because God imputes righteousness to the person at the very moment the ungodly person believes. If they are righteous, they are no longer ungodly.

Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

This means before the person could believe, repent or do any obedience, they were Justified

... nope. Romans 4:6 reiterates the truth revealed in the prior verses ... that faith ≠ works.

And if you continue to read Rom 4:7-8, you see that Paul is quoting from what is written in Psalm 32 by David:

Psalm 32:

1 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.

2 Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

3 When I kept silence, my bones waxed old through my roaring all the day long.

4 For day and night thy hand was heavy upon me: my moisture is turned into the drought of summer. Selah.


According to verses 3-4 ... when David "kept silence" (did not acknowledge his sin before God), his sin bothered him to the core of his being. However, read verse 5:


5 I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the LORD; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah.

6 For this shall every one that is godly pray unto thee in a time when thou mayest be found: surely in the floods of great waters they shall not come nigh unto him.

7 Thou art my hiding place; thou shalt preserve me from trouble; thou shalt compass me about with songs of deliverance. Selah.

When David acknowledged his sin and confessed to God, then his sin was forgiven ... then David considered God his hiding place where David was preserved from trouble.

And if you really do not understand what it is that David is saying, check out Psalm 32:10

Psalm 32:10 Many sorrows shall be to the wicked: but he that trusteth in the LORD, mercy shall compass him about.

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

That is, when believers were still enemies, hating God, they were reconciled

... we have gone over what is entailed in reconciliation many times, brightfame52.

The word "reconciled" in Rom 5:10 is translated from the Greek word katallassō which means decisively change, as when two parties reconcile when coming ("changing") to the same position.

Reconciliation on the part of God to mankind took place before the foundation of the world.

Reconciliation on the part of man takes place at the time a person turns to God in faith ... at that point they are "reconciled" to God.

Those who reject God even as He reaches out to them are not reconciled to God ... not because God has not made provision for them, but because they reject that which God has provided for them to be reconciled to God.

Those who turn to God in faith are the ones who are reconciled to God.


READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
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What do I mean?

no one ... including God ... cares what you mean.

the issue is do you care what God, as the Author of Scripture, has laid out in His Word???

in reading through the posts submitted by you in the various threads here at CC, it is clear you do not care to study God's Word in order that you may stand approved before God.


2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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1 Corinthians 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.





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"Christs resurrection is evidence that" the Lord Jesus Christ is the resurrection and the life and those who believe in Him shall live:

John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live


"Christs resurrection is evidence that" it was impossible for death to hold Him:

Acts 2:24 Whom [the Lord Jesus Christ] God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he [the Lord Jesus Christ] should be holden of it.


"Christs resurrection is evidence that" the hope of the born again ones is a living hope:

1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead



READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
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Christs resurrection is evidence that the ones He died for are not in their sins Rom 4:25

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

1 Cor 15:16-17


16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:

17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

But since Christ has risen, God given faith isnt vain, because we are not in our sins. Faith is given to people who Christ died for and Justified them before God.

Only people whom Christ died for, and Justified from sin, shall be given faith to believe.

 

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The verse is abused most by those who claim that faith on the part of the believer is "works".

The verse is misunderstood by those who claim that a person is justified when he or she is "ungodly".

Romans 4:

2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Romans 4 clearly states that faith is not works. Additionally, the moment a person believes, that person is no longer ungodly because God imputes righteousness to the person at the very moment the ungodly person believes. If they are righteous, they are no longer ungodly.





... nope. Romans 4:6 reiterates the truth revealed in the prior verses ... that faith ≠ works.

And if you continue to read Rom 4:7-8, you see that Paul is quoting from what is written in Psalm 32 by David:

Psalm 32:

1 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.

2 Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

3 When I kept silence, my bones waxed old through my roaring all the day long.

4 For day and night thy hand was heavy upon me: my moisture is turned into the drought of summer. Selah.


According to verses 3-4 ... when David "kept silence" (did not acknowledge his sin before God), his sin bothered him to the core of his being. However, read verse 5:


5 I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the LORD; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah.

6 For this shall every one that is godly pray unto thee in a time when thou mayest be found: surely in the floods of great waters they shall not come nigh unto him.

7 Thou art my hiding place; thou shalt preserve me from trouble; thou shalt compass me about with songs of deliverance. Selah.

When David acknowledged his sin and confessed to God, then his sin was forgiven ... then David considered God his hiding place where David was preserved from trouble.

And if you really do not understand what it is that David is saying, check out Psalm 32:10

Psalm 32:10 Many sorrows shall be to the wicked: but he that trusteth in the LORD, mercy shall compass him about.





... we have gone over what is entailed in reconciliation many times, brightfame52.

The word "reconciled" in Rom 5:10 is translated from the Greek word katallassō which means decisively change, as when two parties reconcile when coming ("changing") to the same position.

Reconciliation on the part of God to mankind took place before the foundation of the world.

Reconciliation on the part of man takes place at the time a person turns to God in faith ... at that point they are "reconciled" to God.

Those who reject God even as He reaches out to them are not reconciled to God ... not because God has not made provision for them, but because they reject that which God has provided for them to be reconciled to God.

Those who turn to God in faith are the ones who are reconciled to God.


READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
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Being Justified while being an enemy and being reconciled to God while being an enemy are one and the same, and its solely by the death of Christ, before faith or believing is in the picture.

 

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no one ... including God ... cares what you mean.

the issue is do you care what God, as the Author of Scripture, has laid out in His Word???

in reading through the posts submitted by you in the various threads here at CC, it is clear you do not care to study God's Word in order that you may stand approved before God.


2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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Dishonesty by not quoting the context of that statement.

 

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Rom 4:25

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

"Justification" ... what Scripture teaches:

Romans 4:

20 He [Abraham] staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;

21 And being fully persuaded that, what he [God] had promised, he [God] was able also to perform.

22 And therefore it was imputed to him [Abraham] for righteousness.

23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;

24 But for us also, to whom it [righteousness] shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

5:1 Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ
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Dishonesty by not quoting the context of that statement.

awwwwwhahahahahahaha!!! ... look who's concerned about "context" ...

there is absolutely no concern about "context" when brightfame52 ignores the context of Scripture ...

you so funny!!! ... thanks for the laugh ...
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Being Justified while being an enemy and being reconciled to God while being an enemy are one and the same

... no they're not ... that's just you spouting your erroneous dogma rather than take the time to ferret out what does God mean ... cuz you're a shameful workman who does not rightly divide the word of truth:

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

and its solely by the death of Christ, before faith or believing is in the picture.

Again, that God worked out the redemption of mankind in eternity past does not negate the fact that faith on the part of mankind (whosoever believeth) is the means through which God imputes righteousness:

Romans 4:

20 He [Abraham] staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;

21 And being fully persuaded that, what he [God] had promised, he [God] was able also to perform.

22 And therefore it was imputed to him [Abraham] for righteousness.

23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;

24 But for us also, to whom it [righteousness] shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

5:1 Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ
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King James Bible
Exodus 23:7, “Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and righteous slay thou not: for I will not justify the wicked.”


John 5:28-30, “Don't be amazed at this, because the hour is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and will come out—those who have done what is good to the resurrection of life, and those who have practiced what is evil to the resurrection of condemnation. I can do nothing on my own accord. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I do not seek my own will but the will of the one who sent me.”