Who Justifieth the Ungodly

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its to reveal or make known the Good News of what Christ has accomplished and Established on ones behalf; Because Christ was delivered up unto Death and Divine Justice in their stead and for their transgressions, and when the Law released Him, it was a notification of their discharge
nope ... the Lord Jesus Christ was raised from the dead because the grave could not hold Him:

Act 2:24 Whom [the Lord Jesus Christ] God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he [the Lord Jesus Christ] should be holden of it [death].


If the grave had held the Lord Jesus Christ, the whole of Scripture would be broken because God made promise and God's promise must come to pass:

Psalm 16:8-10 I have set the LORD always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved. Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my flesh also shall rest in hope. For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

These verses in Psalm 16:8-10 are reiterated in Acts 2:25-27 and they give the reason why it was not possible that the Lord Jesus Christ should be held in the grave. The Father would not allow His Holy One to see corruption.

Additionally, the Lord Jesus Christ Himself had told His disciples that He would be raised from the dead:

Matthew 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

If the Lord Jesus Christ had not been raised from the dead, He would be a liar and the whole of Scripture fails.


you need to leave your surmisings in the dunghill where they belong.


READ YOUR BIBLE!!!


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reneweddaybyday said:
Explain with Scripture how I am "way off in left field"
I already have, read my posts !
nope ... I have shown you from Scripture that your posts are nothing but your vain imagining. Your surmisings do not hold up under the scrutiny of Scripture.

READ YOUR BIBLE!!!



Ephesians 4:14 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive


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nope ... the Lord Jesus Christ was raised from the dead because the grave could not hold Him:

Act 2:24 Whom [the Lord Jesus Christ] God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he [the Lord Jesus Christ] should be holden of it [death].


If the grave had held the Lord Jesus Christ, the whole of Scripture would be broken because God made promise and God's promise must come to pass:

Psalm 16:8-10 I have set the LORD always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved. Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my flesh also shall rest in hope. For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

These verses in Psalm 16:8-10 are reiterated in Acts 2:25-27 and they give the reason why it was not possible that the Lord Jesus Christ should be held in the grave. The Father would not allow His Holy One to see corruption.

Additionally, the Lord Jesus Christ Himself had told His disciples that He would be raised from the dead:

Matthew 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

If the Lord Jesus Christ had not been raised from the dead, He would be a liar and the whole of Scripture fails.


you need to leave your surmisings in the dunghill where they belong.


READ YOUR BIBLE!!!


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You still at variance of the Truth !
 

brightfame52

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nope ... I have shown you from Scripture that your posts are nothing but your vain imagining. Your surmisings do not hold up under the scrutiny of Scripture.

READ YOUR BIBLE!!!


Ephesians 4:14 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive


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Yes I have explained myself, you disagree and are at variance with it.
 
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reneweddaybyday said:
nope ... I have shown you from Scripture that your posts are nothing but your vain imagining. Your surmisings do not hold up under the scrutiny of Scripture.

READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
Yes I have explained myself, you disagree and are at variance with it.
yes ... I disagree with your surmisings.

I hold to the truth of Scripture, so of course I am "at variance with" your vain reasonings.


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We all started out as the ungodly. The Lord died so that WHOSOEVER WILL MAY COME.

We all have a choice to make. Jesus' atonement is what makes this choice possible.

Isaiah
55:1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
55:2 Wherefore do ye spend money for [that which is] not bread? and your labour for [that which] satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye [that which is] good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.
55:3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, [even] the sure mercies of David.
55:4 Behold, I have given him [for] a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.
55:5 Behold, thou shalt call a nation [that] thou knowest not, and nations [that] knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the LORD thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee.
55:6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
You still dont get it.
...until you choose to come and buy and eat, until you "come unto Me: hear, and your soul shall live;". This is not works salvation. This is about choosing to follow Jesus.
 

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Justified from all things !

Acts 13:39

And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

The Nature of the Justification that Christ gives to all for whom He died, all the Elect of God or His Body the Church, its Justification from all things which means:

They are Justified from their Transgression in Adam their Natural Head Rom 5:12

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

They are Justified from all actual Transgressions they begin t commit from the womb, before conversion and also after conversion.

They are Justified from all their present impurities in the flesh, Yes they are Justified in the court of God's Justice and Righteousness against anything anyone can bring against them even as a legitimate charge !


Illustrated by Joshua the High Priest who had on filthy garments ! Zech 3:1-4

And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.

2 And the Lord said unto Satan, The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan; even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel.

4 And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment.

All for whom Christ died, the Israel of God, He has taken away their Iniquities from before the Justice of God !
 

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nope ... newsflash for you, brightfame52, your surmisings are not "the Truth !"


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Yes you are ! I have taken time to explain it to you and other readers, and you find reasons to not receive it. Its coming right out of the scripture.
 

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...until you choose to come and buy and eat, until you "come unto Me: hear, and your soul shall live;". This is not works salvation. This is about choosing to follow Jesus.
This is more conditionalism, works salvation conditioned on man !
 
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Yes you are ! I have taken time to explain it to you and other readers, and you find reasons to not receive it. Its coming right out of the scripture.
I believe the Scripture verses you submit.

What I do not believe is your dogma.


Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive


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I believe the Scripture verses you submit.

What I do not believe is your dogma.

Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive


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I dont think you understand the scripture truth I share, and nothing I can do about that.
 

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John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.


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Thats a Justified world, with no sin imputed, same as 2 Cor 5:19 world. Its the world of Gods elect. Whoever is not Justified doesnt belong to that world !
 
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I dont think you understand the scripture truth I share, and nothing I can do about that.
I understand the Scripture verses as set forth within the context of Scripture (i.e. where God placed them).

However, you don't share "scripture truth" ... you share a verse out of context then lapse into your dogma ... share another verse out of context ... then more of your dogma.

There's a reason you rip verses from the context ...

Context = The context of an idea or event is the general situation that relates to it, and which helps it to be understood

(https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/context)

If a statement or remark is quoted out of context, the circumstances in which it was said are not correctly reported, so that it seems to mean something different from the meaning that was intended
(https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/out-of-context)


Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive


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reneweddaybyday said:
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Thats a Justified world, with no sin imputed, same as 2 Cor 5:19 world. Its the world of Gods elect. Whoever is not Justified doesnt belong to that world !
more of your errant dogma ...

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