Why the Baptism with the Holy Spirit is not for Today

[wolfwint]

Jesus promised the 12 only.

You take just the verse out of context and give your own meaning. Should we believe you ore the word of God?

 

[Chris1975]

Can you show me scripture where Paul taught that any of the gifts have ceased?

Good question. CAN ANYBODY GIVE ANY SINGLE SCRIPTURE THAT THE GIFTS ARE NO LONGER IN OPERATION?

 

[Dave-L]

You take just the verse out of context and give your own meaning. Should we believe you ore the word of God?

Prove it wrong them make your claim.

 

[Dave-L]

I am quoting his good buddy, Peter, who, at the time he wrote his letter, knows that Satan cannot prowl around like a roaring lion if he is bound in a bottomless pit.

But adding to Revelation by doing so.

 

[Dave-L]

I don't have to prove anything to you; as I said, your assertion is invalid. Go and learn what that means.

No miracles = no real tongues.

 

[Dave-L]

Same answer. Do you have any other stupid questions?

Insult show weakness in the flesh.

 

[Dave-L]

Have you read Corinthians where Paul explains it to the Church?

It's part of the Apostle's gifts. Nothing like that today.

 

[Dino246]

No miracles = no real tongues.

No logic = no sound argument.

Why is this simple concept so difficult for you to grasp?

 

[Dino246]

Insult show weakness in the flesh.

I'll take that into account should I ever be tempted to insult you. You should do likewise.

 

[Dave-L]

No logic = no sound argument.

Why is this simple concept so difficult for you to grasp?

The 9 gifts of the Spirit were miraculous. If you have any they result in miracles. You don't see this today. Or for thousands of years now.

 

[Dave-L]

I'll take that into account should I ever be tempted to insult you. You should do likewise.

Walking in the Spirit resolves a lot of weaknesses.

 

[Dino246]

The 9 gifts of the Spirit were miraculous. If you have any they result in miracles. You don't see this today. Or for thousands of years now.

Personal experience says otherwise.

 

[Dino246]

Walking in the Spirit resolves a lot of weaknesses.

So you should try it.

 

[Dave-L]

Personal experience says otherwise.

Philip in Samaria (Acts 8) is a guy with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and gifts given through the Apostle's hands. Do you know anyone like this?

 

[Dave-L]

So you should try it.

I live it even in my sleep.

 

[Dino246]

Philip in Samaria (Acts 8) is a guy with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and gifts given through the Apostle's hands. Do you know anyone like this?

Here's another logical refutation for you:

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

 

[Dave-L]

Here's another logical refutation for you:

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Show us another Philip.

 

[Dino246]

Show us another Philip.

Yet another fallacy: burden of proof reversal.

Go and learn some basic logic.

 

[presidente]

Jesus promised the 12 only.

John the Baptist was speaking to a large audience of Jews. Other apostles did miracles beside the twelve. One of them taught that the Spirit gives gifts as He wills.

 

[1ofthem]

It's part of the Apostle's gifts. Nothing like that today.

How did you come to that conclusion? Was the church of Corinth made up of only apostles? Have you read 1 Corinthians 12...It talks about the gifts and how they are administered and make up the whole body of Christ (Church). If you take one out is that not weakening the body? I mean it seems to explain it quite clearly to me.

If I don't like my feet and want to cut them off then I can do so, but it will be my own fault when I can't walk....