Why won't God tell us when the end is near/gonna happen ?

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GRACE_ambassador

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no resurrection at the end of the 7 years of tribulation and why the sheep enter the kingdom
Precious friend, how about these? WHEN are they resurrected? Are they not allowed to "go Into the kingdom"?:

Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for The Word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O LORD, Holy and True, dost Thou not Judge and Avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

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Omegatime

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Yes, I said there is no resurrection at the end of 7 years of tribulation and that is because the resurrection happened on the blessed day of Daniel ( 1335th day) into the tribulation. This is how the Lord shortened the days and yet the tribulation is 2520 days long or 7 years. As the antichrist takes his seat in temple of God 1260 days into the tribulation, and another 75 days till the Blessed Day leaves 1185 days in the bowl judgements, short the 1260 days by 75 days. The trumpet judgement end at the 1335th day, which is called the Last Trump.

Sheep/goat judgement is a judgement upon the nations Mat. 25:32 ( gentiles), in which case the sheep and goats are all unrighteous having survived the bowl judgements. Sheep/Goat judgement takes place at end of the tribulation when the Lord returns with his angels. If you know that that will be those who enter the kingdom in the flesh, these are the sheep as well as 1/3 of the surviving jews. The sheep are not saved because of grace thru faith. They are saved only because they helped the fleeing jews by providing food, drink, clothing, ect. Jesus in this story is representing the jews fleeing Jerusalem
 

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The writer of Hebrews said: "Let’s hold firmly to the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful; and let’s consider how to encourage one another in love and good deeds, not abandoning our own meeting together, as is the habit of some people, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near."—Hebrews 10:23-25

The writer wouldn't have said "as you see the day drawing near" if it wasn't possible for us to see it.
 

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we, who are in Christ, will know the day and hour when it approaches
Precious friend, depends:

(1) IF post-trib is true, Then "we, in The Body Of CHRIST, will know,"
IF "still alive near {the day and hour of} the end of GREAT tribulation."

(2) Pre-TOJT Great GRACE Departure says we, In The Body Of CHRIST, Will
Depart to Heaven, with NO signs
Preceding our Departure At The END Of
The "Age Of GRACE";
ie: our apostle Paul's Expectation?:

"...THEN WE {including Paul?} which are alive and remain shall be caught Up..."
(
1 Thessalonians 4:17 KJB!)
NO signs is Further Confirmed By:

"...we walk By faith, NOT by sight..." (2 Corinthians 5:7 KJB!)
Thus, we, today, are not looking {sight} for earthly anti-christ and signs of
the Second Coming for Israel/nations, But, FOR, by faith, looking, watching,
And patiently waiting For, The Heavenly Appearing Of:

The The Great God/Saviour, JESUS CHRIST, For The Great GRACE Departure of
The Body Of CHRIST, To Heaven!!
( 2 Thessalonians 2:1; Romans 8:18-19,
Romans 8:23; Romans 8:25;
1 Corinthians 1:7; Ephesians 6:12-18; Philippians 3:20;
Colossians 4:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 1:10; 1 Thessalonians 5:5-11;
Titus 2:13 KJB! )


Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!
God's Simple Will!
 

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Remember when Jesus said no one will know when the end will be (only God knows) ? Why is that ? I'm not saying everyone should know as that could cause widespread panic, I'm talking about us christians who have to live in this world. I feel like as a follower of God/Jesus he should be giving us some kinda of power that non christians don't have (like being able to tell when the exact date and time of the end), but instead i feel like God has left us with seemingly nothing.

God is trying to but people are on many levels of understanding, while reading a book without being able to converse with the orginal (inspired) authors.

so what we get is many teachers and schools of thought, when none of them wrote the Book, or the books. but God is still here, and what does this Book we (Christians) think is from Him say? "seek and you will find, knock and it will opened unto you". also of help is, "God draws near to the righteous but far from the wicked".

God is the one with allllllllllllĺllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the answers -- so ask Him. and -- seek Him -- that is to say -- seek after righteousness/holiness/truth, and then -- God draws near. some thoughts, which i hope help.

but don't take my word for it but ask think, question for yourself. but this is my belief, and advice, and experience.... such as it is -- down here on Earth, where we, "know in part, and prophesy in part". seek the whole though.... there are many parts .......... and levels -- milk, herbs, meat, strong meat, ect.
 

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I am sure He will let YOU know if you ask Him but it will be different for everyone. He let Jesus know he was going to be crucified and the manner in which he would die so am sure He will give you fair warning.
 

Lanolin

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The reason why you dont know how long you will live from when you are born is that He doesnt want you to be caught up in it. So assume a normal lifespan 70-120 years on earth anything less than that I am sure God would say to you your time is short, make the most of the time you have left.

Satan is always trying to figure out how to end ppls lives sooner. Hes only purpose is to steal, kill and destroy.

However, since Jesus saving us means our second birth we get eternal life, and wont perish you cant lose anyway.
 
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I predict Christ will Return on a day that ends in the letter [Y]
 
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Remember when Jesus said no one will know when the end will be (only God knows) ? Why is that ? I'm not saying everyone should know as that could cause widespread panic, I'm talking about us christians who have to live in this world. I feel like as a follower of God/Jesus he should be giving us some kinda of power that non christians don't have (like being able to tell when the exact date and time of the end), but instead i feel like God has left us with seemingly nothing.
I think the third secret of Fatima pinpointed the end. Unfortunately Vatican kept it for themselves and built an infrared telescope to see the end of the age as it nears.
 
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Omegatime

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One thing for sure, it is based on time, for those who have studied biblical time you should have some knowledge
 

Magenta

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The writer of Hebrews said: "Let’s hold firmly to the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful; and let’s consider how to encourage one another in love and good deeds, not abandoning our own meeting together, as is the habit of some people, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near."—Hebrews 10:23-25

The writer wouldn't have said "as you see the day drawing near" if it wasn't possible for us to see it.

Hebrews 10:22-25
:)
 

Adstar

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Remember when Jesus said no one will know when the end will be (only God knows) ? Why is that ?
You need to have an accurate knowledge of scripture, having that will save you from the lack of understanding and you quoting Jesus inaccurately.. Jesus actually said::

(Matthew 24:36) "¶ But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

Jesus was not saying that no one will know the times,, That no one will know He is near,, Only that no man will know the day and no one will know the hour of His return..

The scriptures make it clear that followers of the LORD will know the times and will not be surprised at the second coming of the LORD Jesus::

(1 Thessalonians 5:1-4) "But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. {2} For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. {3} For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. {4} But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief."

Indeed Jesus Himslef when he was revealing in the Bible the signs that would immediately precede his return He told us to look up into the sky in anticipation of the soon return of the LORD.. These signs are given in the gospels in places like Matthew 24 and in this chapter in Mark::

(Luke 21: 28) {28} And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."

I'm not saying everyone should know as that could cause widespread panic, I'm talking about us christians who have to live in this world. I feel like as a follower of God/Jesus he should be giving us some kinda of power that non christians don't have (like being able to tell when the exact date and time of the end), but instead i feel like God has left us with seemingly nothing.
He has given us His Words in the Holy Bible.. And that is available to us all.. Get into the Word of God and know what they actually say first hand so that you will not be dependent on other human beings who are not perfect and sometimes leave out critical details in their teaching..
 

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What happens when you know that things are about to end?

It's actually been a study.

Here just on the edge of Nashville they were building a dam that was going to flood an entire neighborhood.

They bought all the houses but the money didn't get settled for some time.

But in the meantime...yards started looking like the junkyard. Nobody mowed their lawn or picked up blown trash. It got bad looking.

And there's been plenty of other instances... people lose hope and become depressed

But...
We don't know. And we shouldn't because we worship the God of hope.

I can have hope in tomorrow...it might be misplaced but I still believe in it.

The final eschaton is coming... dunno when but it's coming. More important to me is that I will have a final eschaton. What sort of legacy will I leave behind?
 

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Remember when Jesus said no one will know when the end will be (only God knows) ? Why is that ? I'm not saying everyone should know as that could cause widespread panic, I'm talking about us christians who have to live in this world. I feel like as a follower of God/Jesus he should be giving us some kinda of power that non christians don't have (like being able to tell when the exact date and time of the end), but instead i feel like God has left us with seemingly nothing.

Jesus said we will know the season
 

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Remember when Jesus said no one will know when the end will be (only God knows) ? Why is that ? I'm not saying everyone should know as that could cause widespread panic, I'm talking about us christians who have to live in this world. I feel like as a follower of God/Jesus he should be giving us some kinda of power that non christians don't have (like being able to tell when the exact date and time of the end), but instead i feel like God has left us with seemingly nothing.
Why do you say he left us with nothing? You have the book of Revelation and many other portions of scripture.

OK so if you're wishing you would have put down a date thousands of years ago how many then would have become complacent in their devotion to God thinking well he's not coming back in my lifetime anyway so hey....maybe I'll just go spiritually asleep for a few years.
 

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I feel like as a follower of God/Jesus he should be giving us some kinda of power that non christians don't have (like being able to tell when the exact date and time of the end), but instead i feel like God has left us with seemingly nothing.
As a believer you've been given the gift of eternal life, yet you feel
God has left you with what seems like "nothing", and you want more.
If I were to label you based on that, the label would read "entitled brat".
 

Rondonmon

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Remember when Jesus said no one will know when the end will be (only God knows) ? Why is that ? I'm not saying everyone should know as that could cause widespread panic, I'm talking about us christians who have to live in this world. I feel like as a follower of God/Jesus he should be giving us some kinda of power that non christians don't have (like being able to tell when the exact date and time of the end), but instead i feel like God has left us with seemingly nothing.
He does tell us, you are taking one passage, and allowing it to overall all other scriptures by not understanding what Jesus was actually saying in that passage.

Jesus only says no man knows the DAY nor the HOUR, not even the angels nor the Son(Jesus). But Hes is speaking about the coming fr his bride in the same way a Groom in Judea comes for his bride. There is a Groom (Jesus) and a Bride (Church) and once the groom and bride are engaged, there is a Purification period (Church Age) which proves the bride had lain with no other man. During this time the father (God) of the Groom would pay for a Bridal Suite to be built onto his house (Heaven) and thus at the time of his choosing he would send the son (Jesus) tom g get the Bride (Church) and hey would spend 7 days in the Bridal suite.

Now, it is just not true that we can not understand when Jesus is coming back. We just can not know the EXACT DAY nor the EXACT HOUR, that is the Father's choice alone. But Jesus in the Parable of the Fig Tree told us we can know THE SEASON, by looking at the ripeness of the Figs. So, did the bide of old know THE SEASON was at hand? Did the Townsfolks know the season was nigh? Yes, because the Purification period was usually 9 months. The father also had to order the food for the Marriage Feast, and the Garments had to be ordered, those are like unto THE SIGNS Jesus tells us to look unto the Skies for in Luke and elsewhere. Thus everyone in town knew the Weddin was at hand, but they did not know if the father would send the son to get the Bride on a Mon. at 2:00 AM, or on a Tuesday at 3:00 AM or on a Thursday at 4:00 AM, but they knew the wedding was AT HAND. Likewise, we know via all the SIGNS the Rapture of the Bride is at hand. We can tell by many things, but looking to the SKIES and seeing the coming Asteroid Apophis tell me that April 13, 2029 starts the Day of the Lord thus it's the middle of the 70th week, thus the Pre Trib Rapture has to happen in the Fall of 2025. Now, I do not know the DAY nor the HPUR, but I am pretty sure I know THE SEASON.
 
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If we knew the End date, would [we] be better witnesses, better examples of Christ, actually resembled the purpose of Christ intended for each and everyone of us?

Believe it or not, [we] would be worse than we already are.