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Was watching Fox News when the decision came down. Justice Roberts contradicted his own opinion from yesterday's ACA decision, calling the majority opinion "deeply disappointing" in that it chose not to contradict the legislatures of the SSM states. Yesterday he said SCOTUS shouldn't do exactly that in saving ObamaCare.
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No, he does not, Ken. Roberts wrote the dissenting opinion, i.e., that there is no right to same-sex marriage in the Constitution. It's a dissociative position from the one he took in the ObamaCare decision.
It was actually Kennedy who wrote those words, but as Fox News pointed out, the real test for that opinion comes with the first pastor who refuses to perform a gay marriage.
Also, there is a very, very small glimmer of hope. The decision doesn't take effect immediately. The Court is giving opponents three weeks for reconsideration, which is very nearly unprecedented.
It was actually Kennedy who wrote those words, but as Fox News pointed out, the real test for that opinion comes with the first pastor who refuses to perform a gay marriage.
Also, there is a very, very small glimmer of hope. The decision doesn't take effect immediately. The Court is giving opponents three weeks for reconsideration, which is very nearly unprecedented.
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A sad,sad day for America.Not longer a country founded on Christian principles.I fear God has taken his hand off the USA. No longer can we sing "God Bless the USA" for I believe he has turned his eyes away from us.Just how I feel today.We have become a socialist/communist country today. Truly a sad day.
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From Roberts' dissent, in which Scalia and Thomas joined:
Note that he said here that "judges have the power to say what the law is, not what it should be." But he said yesterday in the majority opinion upholding ObamaCare:
Clearly in the ObamaCare opinion, Roberts was justifying cleaning up what he said earlier in the opinion was "an inartfully drafted law," and deciding what Congress meant., He also said the wording regarding "State" was ambiguous, even though the "Definitions" section of the law clearly said that "State" is on of the 50, or if specified, the District of Columbia.
There is a disturbing inconsistency here, the motivation for which momentarily escapes me.
Note that he said here that "judges have the power to say what the law is, not what it should be." But he said yesterday in the majority opinion upholding ObamaCare:
Clearly in the ObamaCare opinion, Roberts was justifying cleaning up what he said earlier in the opinion was "an inartfully drafted law," and deciding what Congress meant., He also said the wording regarding "State" was ambiguous, even though the "Definitions" section of the law clearly said that "State" is on of the 50, or if specified, the District of Columbia.
There is a disturbing inconsistency here, the motivation for which momentarily escapes me.
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Which is an arrogant, audacious stance for such a very, very small majority to take. I know polls show this is what the American people want, but the reality is, the LGBT community represents less than one percent of the U.S. population. Perhaps another two to three percent would militantly support their efforts to force acceptance, but I don't think the other 50 percent or so of their supporters would go that far.
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That is not what they said from the Justices, as they said that pastor's can still refuse to marry these couples do to their right to religious beliefs.
Don't get me wrong I do not agree with this decision, but at the same time we are in the end times and things like this will continue to grow and come to pass. I would also ploy you to please watch other sources besides just FOX, as that is a bias news source and people need to watch and read more then one source to get the whole true story on and issue.
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Ken, I now that. I acknowledged that. I also said the real test comes when the first pastor refuses. If you don't think militant LGBTs will seek out such a pastor to "make an example" of him, you're being naïve.
I responded to you regarding that in the ObamaCare thread yesterday -- after which you disappeared without response. You watch who you want to watch, Ken, I'll watch who I want to watch. You're getting far more biased, distorted and just plain inaccurate information from the other cable news networks and any local daily newspaper than I am from Fox and The Wall Street Journal.
I responded to you regarding that in the ObamaCare thread yesterday -- after which you disappeared without response. You watch who you want to watch, Ken, I'll watch who I want to watch. You're getting far more biased, distorted and just plain inaccurate information from the other cable news networks and any local daily newspaper than I am from Fox and The Wall Street Journal.
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Well they would first have to get rid of right to religious beliefs in order to enforce this...
Plus in some places in the U.S. they already have apostate churches that allow s.s.m., so those types of churches will just grow now as that false new age movement is getting bad.
Queen Latifah has been ordained a pastor of this new age church and married gay couples;
Queen Latifah Marries Gay Couples At Grammys - Business Insider
Plus in some places in the U.S. they already have apostate churches that allow s.s.m., so those types of churches will just grow now as that false new age movement is getting bad.
Queen Latifah has been ordained a pastor of this new age church and married gay couples;
Queen Latifah Marries Gay Couples At Grammys - Business Insider
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I did respond to you on the Obamacare as well as many others then I had to sign off to get things done, so don't say I just disappeared without responding because I did.
Second in post 15 I answered this as in order for them to force pastors to marry these people they will have to do away with freedom of religion. Plus there is already a false new age movement in the church who allow this s.s.m......
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What makes you think that isn't the next item on their agenda?
Don't say "the church" because it is not in "the church." There are organizations that claim to be churches, who claim to have pastors, who claim to teach God's word. All three are lies. New Age beliefs automatically disqualify any group from calling itself part of the Body of Christ.
Don't say "the church" because it is not in "the church." There are organizations that claim to be churches, who claim to have pastors, who claim to teach God's word. All three are lies. New Age beliefs automatically disqualify any group from calling itself part of the Body of Christ.
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Any pastor saying they will not marry a gay couple will be treated as less than human,a bigot and worse.The news will "out" him or her.He will have death threats and fear for his life.Under those circumstances it will take a very strong person to stand against that.It wont take the govt to force it.