Kentucky Forbids Volunteer Pastors to Call Homosexuality Sinful

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State forbids pastors calling homosexuality ‘sinful’

"The state of Kentucky has begun imposing a religious test on volunteer pastor counselors in its youth division, insisting that they refrain from calling homosexuality “sinful” and dismissing those who cannot bend their religious faith to accommodate the state requirements."



Legally this probably won't go far (for now) but it is a good example of the creeping totalitarianism and believers being a target.
 
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State forbids pastors calling homosexuality ‘sinful’

"The state of Kentucky has begun imposing a religious test on volunteer pastor counselors in its youth division, insisting that they refrain from calling homosexuality “sinful” and dismissing those who cannot bend their religious faith to accommodate the state requirements."



Legally this probably won't go far (for now) but it is a good example of the creeping totalitarianism and believers being a target.
Yeah...wait till they start imposing this on the men standing behind the pulpits!
 

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Kentucky is following 2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. It's a sign of the times and it is only going to get worse until God steps in. Not sure what it will be like for the thousand years that Jesus will be in charge of this "old" earth.
 

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Kentucky is following 2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. It's a sign of the times and it is only going to get worse until God steps in. Not sure what it will be like for the thousand years that Jesus will be in charge of this "old" earth.
Much of the Old Testament Prophets (Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel etc.) describe it.
 

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"The policy states that DJJ staff, volunteers and others “shall not imply or tell LGBTQI juveniles that they are abnormal, deviant, sinful or that they can or should change their sexual orientation or gender identity.”


This means the counselors cannot even tell the LGBTQI that it is possible to change thus closing the door on the Gospel.

HELLO???
 
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oldthennew

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the prophetic bells are ringing in our country and many others -
the pollution of church and state is on the rise and soon many will have to make the decision
to open their eyes and take a stand.
those who walk and promote perverted pleasures behind the name of Jesus Christ are defiled -
we are witnessing first-hand the days of evil and darkness, for it is more than just scratching at our doors.

Blessed is the man who holds Truth in his heart, for he shall walk with God.
 

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the prophetic bells are ringing in our country and many others -
the pollution of church and state is on the rise and soon many will have to make the decision
to open their eyes and take a stand.
those who walk and promote perverted pleasures behind the name of Jesus Christ are defiled -
we are witnessing first-hand the days of evil and darkness, for it is more than just scratching at our doors.

Blessed is the man who holds Truth in his heart, for he shall walk with God.
More than scratching at the doors alright. ..it's like termites have gone from the doors to the foundation.
 
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the prophetic bells are ringing in our country and many others -
the pollution of church and state is on the rise and soon many will have to make the decision
to open their eyes and take a stand.
those who walk and promote perverted pleasures behind the name of Jesus Christ are defiled -
we are witnessing first-hand the days of evil and darkness, for it is more than just scratching at our doors.

Blessed is the man who holds Truth in his heart, for he shall walk with God.
We may have to create places where we can practice our faith, kinda like the catacombs.
 
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Kentucky is doubling down on enforcing their gestapo like tactics against Christian pastor/counselors...
You mean the GAYstapo? :rolleyes:




Join the Gaystapo! We're the oppressors now!

Ministry of Freedom
Thoughtpolice of America

 
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[video=youtube;egxB0dTajb4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egxB0dTajb4[/video]
 
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[video=youtube;egxB0dTajb4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egxB0dTajb4[/video]
I'm not saying that the insitute of gay 'marriage' couldn't undermine society, but isn't (the sin of) obesity (at about 0:08) a much greater danger to amercian society than homosexuality?
 
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20Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!
 
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I used to like the rainbow pattern colors. Now it reminds me of the same sex all is okay don't judge us accept us we are all human and people alike stuff.
Even worse, consider what the first rainbow was all about. Ironic, isn't it?
 
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"Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." 1 Corinthians 6:18 (NIV).

In the Greek it reads like this:

"φεύγετε τὴν πορνείαν· πᾶν ἁμάρτημα ὃ ἐὰν ποιήσῃ ἄνθρωπος ἐκτὸς τοῦ σώματός ἐστιν· ὁ δὲ πορνεύων εἰς τὸ ἴδιον σῶμα ἁμαρτάνει" -Stephanus Textus Receptus 1550

"Every other sinful act (ἁμάρτημα), if it has to do at all with the body, works upon it from without, and consequently holds a position in reference to the body external to the same. The sinner makes that which is not of the body, but outside of it, as e.g. food and drink, to be the instrument of his immoral act, whereby the ἁμάρτημα, viewed in its relation to the body, comes to stand ἘΚΤῸς ΤΟῦ ΣΏΜΑΤΟς, and has there the sphere of its occurrence and consummation." -Meyer's NT Commentary.

Obesity is a medical condition which negatively affects a person's physical health but does not corrupt their soul and spirit. Homosexuality is a grave spiritual transgression which corrupts a person's soul and spirit.

Overweight people can certainly live moral upright godly lives fulfilling Christ's instruction to be His witness as salt and light in society.

Sexually immoral homosexuals whom are deceived by the devil are not living moral upright godly lives fulfilling Christ's instruction to be His witness as salt and light in society. Their lives reflect the unclean corrupt state of their hearts and minds with spirits in an unregenerate state of rebellious enmity toward God's own holiness [Roman 8:7] (or alternately if they were ever genuinely saved then suffering conscience which comes from grieving God's Holy Spirit and they are in desperate need of genuine repentance).

So no, just the opposite is true. Homosexuality is by far the greater danger to any society because it corrupts, deceives, and hardens the hearts, minds, and spirits of society's members against creator God and His holiness and subsequently society's government and institutions.

Obesity is a medical problem that doesn't corrupt, deceive, and harden against God people's hearts, minds, and souls and subsequently society's government and intuitions.

It saddens me to see professing Christians, like yourself, unable to understand the obvious and falsely assert the exact opposite.


I'm not saying that the insitute of gay 'marriage' couldn't undermine society, but isn't (the sin of) obesity (at about 0:08) a much greater danger to amercian society than homosexuality?
 
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"Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." 1 Corinthians 6:18 (NIV).

In the Greek it reads like this:

"φεύγετε τὴν πορνείαν· πᾶν ἁμάρτημα ὃ ἐὰν ποιήσῃ ἄνθρωπος ἐκτὸς τοῦ σώματός ἐστιν· ὁ δὲ πορνεύων εἰς τὸ ἴδιον σῶμα ἁμαρτάνει" -Stephanus Textus Receptus 1550

"Every other sinful act (ἁμάρτημα), if it has to do at all with the body, works upon it from without, and consequently holds a position in reference to the body external to the same. The sinner makes that which is not of the body, but outside of it, as e.g. food and drink, to be the instrument of his immoral act, whereby the ἁμάρτημα, viewed in its relation to the body, comes to stand ἘΚΤῸς ΤΟῦ ΣΏΜΑΤΟς, and has there the sphere of its occurrence and consummation." -Meyer's NT Commentary.

Obesity is a medical condition which negatively affects a person's physical health but does not corrupt their soul and spirit. Homosexuality is a grave spiritual transgression which corrupts a person's soul and spirit.

Overweight people can certainly live moral upright godly lives fulfilling Christ's instruction to be His witness as salt and light in society.

Sexually immoral homosexuals whom are deceived by the devil are not living moral upright godly lives fulfilling Christ's instruction to be His witness as salt and light in society. Their lives reflect the unclean corrupt state of their hearts and minds with spirits in an unregenerate state of rebellious enmity toward God's own holiness [Roman 8:7] (or alternately if they were ever genuinely saved then suffering conscience which comes from grieving God's Holy Spirit and they are in desperate need of genuine repentance).

So no, just the opposite is true. Homosexuality is by far the greater danger to any society because it corrupts, deceives, and hardens the hearts, minds, and spirits of society's members against creator God and His holiness and subsequently society's government and institutions.

Obesity is a medical problem that doesn't corrupt, deceive, and harden against God people's hearts, minds, and souls and subsequently society's government and intuitions.

It saddens me to see professing Christians, like yourself, unable to understand the obvious and falsely assert the exact opposite.
The moment I read the highlighted BLUE words you´ve said, I felt like I was in Sodom and Gomorrah, witnessing those things, feeling annoyed when angels came (my house) and ppl around wanted to defile them...

I don´t UNDERSTAND how Lot´s wife turned back. What would a person miss from cities like those?

The place my mom lives has an alley where I have seen what ppl does: Drugs, alcohol... Even same sex ()

I cannot built a wall to separate THE AIR from THEIR sights (no other way to allow air passed through that window). Their noise stinks... Everything stinks (even me, who had come, several times, to work at this place I don´t like)

If I could (I dont know how) I wished I had an island where I could breathe...

 
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Jesus said:

"Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also." -John 14:2

In the Greek, "dwelling places" means abiding-places of rest, peace, and sojourn. "My Father's house" is the dwelling-place in which souls granted access abide forever (Psalm 23:6; Psalm 90:1) basking in God's glory, recognition, and reconciliation (Isaiah 63:15; Deuteronomy 26:15).

You won't desire isolation to escape wickedness for it will no longer be a concern. The separation of the chaff from the wheat and the goats from the sheep will have occurred. Patience... not much longer to wait.