Mass Palestinian grave found in Tel Aviv

[Drett]

The remains of dozens of Palestinians killed by Israelis in fighting during the war of 1948 which led to the creation of the state of Israel have been found in a mass grave in Tel Aviv's Jaffa district.


An official at the Muslim cemetery there told AFP news agency that the grisly find occurred on Wednesday when ground subsided as workers carried out renovations, revealing six chambers full of skeletons.


Jaffa fisherman Atar Zeinab, 80, says that as a teenager during the final months of fighting in 1948, he helped to collect the Arab dead in the area south of Jaffa and bring them for hasty burial in the cemetery, the area's main graveyard.


"I carried to the cemetery 60 bodies during a period of three or four months," he told AFP. "We used to find the people in the street and most of the time we didn't know who they were."


He said that the danger of being hit by flying bullets or grenade fragments was such that bodies were dumped one on top of the other in existing family crypts in the cemetery, contrary to Muslim custom.


"We carried them early in the morning or in the night," he added. "We put women, children and men in the same place...nobody prayed for these people."


Jaffa was at the time a Palestinian town, but there was a forced exodus of most of its Arab population when it fell to the fledgling Israeli army and rightwing Jewish armed gangs.


In 1950 it was incorporated into the city of Tel Aviv which was renamed Tel Aviv-Jaffa.


Today it has a mixed Arab and Jewish population.


Around 760,000 Palestinians fled or were forced from their homes in what they call the "Nakba" or "catastrophe" of 1948.

Mass Palestinian grave found in Tel Aviv - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

 

[Drett]

Dozens of Israeli army veterans have admitted their involvement in massacres against Palestinian civilians in 1948, and acknowledged that Zionism misled them and is a catastrophe for both Jews and Arabs. The details have been revealed by the Yazkern organisation, which was founded in 2001 and seeks to unveil the truth and spread the Palestinian narrative of the country's history among Israelis and convince them of Zionism's false account.

​Israeli army veterans admit role in massacres of Palestinians in 1948

 

[Drett]

Another veteran, Arhamel Khnovitc, also 83 years old, now lives in the settlement of Daghania. He confessed that he took part in the massacre in the Dahmash Mosque in Al-Lydd in July 1948; he also took part in the ethnic cleansing of the villages of Jamzu and Dan'el.
"I headed to the mosque, as per an order from the command, and I kept my ears and eyes open after I quietly opened the door,” said Khnovitc. “Then I fired a Fiat missile, following orders. Many corpses flew and got stuck to the walls due to the severity of the blast."

 

[Drett]

During a September 1948 meeting of the Israeli cabinet, Ben-Gurion proposed ending the current ceasefire

If war broke out, we would then be able to clear the entire central Galilee with one fell swoop. But we cannot empty the central Galilee - that is, including the [Arab] refugees - without a war going on. The Galilee is full of [Arab] residents; it is not an empty region. If war breaks out throughout the entire country, this would be advantageous for us as far as the Galilee is concerned because, without having to make any major effort - we could use just enough of the force required for the purpose without weakening our military efforts in other parts of the country - we could empty the Galilee completely.

Tom Segev (March 16, 2013). "Will we ever find out what the censor left out?". Haaretz. Retrieved March 16, 2013.

This proposal was not passed at this meeting but we can see war being used as a cover to remove Palestinian.

 

[Drett]

I was told my source had an Islamic bias.

Even the controlled media picked up this particular story which was a surprise.

Mass grave uncovered containing dozens of Palestinians killed in 1948 war that founded Israel | Mail Online

Though of course they had to dishonestly state dozens in their headline when it was clear from the picture it was hundreds. They even gave a conservative estimate of 200 in the story. Sheesh so hard to get uncontrolled media these days.

 

[jerusalem]

is there anything 'nice' about war......are any of us guilt free.....

 

[Drett]

is there anything 'nice' about war......are any of us guilt free.....

Nothing nice about war. When people are above the law their crimes will become worse.

 

[SarahM777]

Nothing nice about war. When people are above the law their crimes will become worse.

Or when they become a law unto themselves and somehow think they are god.

 

[zone]

The remains of dozens of Palestinians killed by Israelis in fighting during the war of 1948 which led to the creation of the state of Israel have been found in a mass grave in Tel Aviv's Jaffa district.


An official at the Muslim cemetery there told AFP news agency that the grisly find occurred on Wednesday when ground subsided as workers carried out renovations, revealing six chambers full of skeletons.


Jaffa fisherman Atar Zeinab, 80, says that as a teenager during the final months of fighting in 1948, he helped to collect the Arab dead in the area south of Jaffa and bring them for hasty burial in the cemetery, the area's main graveyard.


"I carried to the cemetery 60 bodies during a period of three or four months," he told AFP. "We used to find the people in the street and most of the time we didn't know who they were."


He said that the danger of being hit by flying bullets or grenade fragments was such that bodies were dumped one on top of the other in existing family crypts in the cemetery, contrary to Muslim custom.


"We carried them early in the morning or in the night," he added. "We put women, children and men in the same place...nobody prayed for these people."


Jaffa was at the time a Palestinian town, but there was a forced exodus of most of its Arab population when it fell to the fledgling Israeli army and rightwing Jewish armed gangs.


In 1950 it was incorporated into the city of Tel Aviv which was renamed Tel Aviv-Jaffa.


Today it has a mixed Arab and Jewish population.


Around 760,000 Palestinians fled or were forced from their homes in what they call the "Nakba" or "catastrophe" of 1948.

Mass Palestinian grave found in Tel Aviv - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

what an absurd story.

what you are supposed to say is:

palestinians are a made-up people; they weren't in the Land in 1948; and nobody got killed anyway; there was and is no extermination policy; no cover-up; the media is unbiased.

come on drett - what kind of agenda are you on here?

 

[SarahM777]

what an absurd story.

what you are supposed to say is:

palestinians are a made-up people; they weren't in the Land in 1948; and nobody got killed anyway; there was and is no extermination policy; no cover-up; the media is unbiased.

come on drett - what kind of agenda are you on here?

Zone,

Don't you know that it's OK for them to do it because the Israelis are the "chosen ones". Don't they have license to do these things? Aren't we suppose to get with the program?

 

[Drett]

what an absurd story.

what you are supposed to say is:

palestinians are a made-up people; they weren't in the Land in 1948; and nobody got killed anyway; there was and is no extermination policy; no cover-up; the media is unbiased.

come on drett - what kind of agenda are you on here?

Man, I don't think I will ever work for the FOX network now.

 

[zone]

Zone,

Don't you know that it's OK for them to do it because the Israelis are the "chosen ones". Don't they have license to do these things? Aren't we suppose to get with the program?

well, you don't want to be cursed by God for not blessing the jews, do you?

CHRISTIAN UNITED FOR ISRAEL

“I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.”
Genesis 12:1-3

God has promised to bless the man or nation that blesses the Chosen People. History has proven beyond reasonable doubt that the nations that have blessed the Jewish people have had the blessing of God; the nations that have cursed the Jewish people have experienced the curse of God.

CUFI members across the country have experienced blessings in their own lives by blessing Israel. CUFI wants to provide you with the opportunity to share your testimony about how you have been blessed by blessing Israel. We believe your testimony will inspire and empower other CUFI members to bless Israel.

May the work of your hands be blessed and may all you desire for you and your loved ones come to pass as Genesis 12:3 becomes reality in your lives.

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~

John Hagee's CUFI cult has corrupted the very Words God spoke to Abram.

and the Promise was JESUS.

hard to believe, but MONEY TALKS.

i wonder if Americans (and other nations who teach the same) ever ask themselves how blessed they have been over the last 60 years.

1950 kids played, as kids do.

.......

Colwyn police Cpl. Trevor Parham was acquitted today of simple assault and official oppression for Tasering a 16-year-old boy who was shackled to a bench in a holding cell.

 

[SarahM777]

well, you don't want to be cursed by God for not blessing the jews, do you?

CHRISTIAN UNITED FOR ISRAEL

“I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.”
Genesis 12:1-3

God has promised to bless the man or nation that blesses the Chosen People. History has proven beyond reasonable doubt that the nations that have blessed the Jewish people have had the blessing of God; the nations that have cursed the Jewish people have experienced the curse of God.

CUFI members across the country have experienced blessings in their own lives by blessing Israel. CUFI wants to provide you with the opportunity to share your testimony about how you have been blessed by blessing Israel. We believe your testimony will inspire and empower other CUFI members to bless Israel.

May the work of your hands be blessed and may all you desire for you and your loved ones come to pass as Genesis 12:3 becomes reality in your lives.

Christians United for Israel - click

~

John Hagee's CUFI cult has corrupted the very Words God spoke to Abram.

and the Promise was JESUS.

hard to believe, but MONEY TALKS.

i wonder if Americans (and other nations who teach the same) ever ask themselves how blessed they have been over the last 60 years.

1950 kids played, as kids do.

.......

Colwyn police Cpl. Trevor Parham was acquitted today of simple assault and official oppression for Tasering a 16-year-old boy who was shackled to a bench in a holding cell.

But I thought we weren't suppose to be partakers with the workers of darkness nor are we suppose to be yoked with unbelievers? How does that fit in with this?

I know the promise was and is Jesus.

And all of this over a piece of desert. (Didn't the Lord say something about that too) If I remember correctly the land was a land filled with milk and honey. (Sure doesn't look that anymore) Kinda like someone laid it to waste.

 

[zone]

But I thought we weren't suppose to be partakers with the workers of darkness nor are we suppose to be yoked with unbelievers? How does that fit in with this?

I know the promise was and is Jesus.

And all of this over a piece of desert. (Didn't the Lord say something about that too) If I remember correctly the land was a land filled with milk and honey. (Sure doesn't look that anymore) Kinda like someone laid it to waste.

somewhere along the way we decided that unbelieving jews were actually believers; or were in some sort of (saving) covenant with God.

or that untold millions of jews could die in unbelief (and millions of all people had to die over the Land) so that sometime in the future they - all-- israel will be saved

....


Dual-covenant theology is a Christian view of the Old Covenant which holds that Jews may simply keep the Law of Moses, because of the "everlasting covenant" (Genesis 17:13) between Abraham and God expressed in the Hebrew Bible, whereas Gentiles (those not Jews or Jewish proselytes) must convert to Christianity or alternatively accept the Seven Laws of Noah to be assured of a place in the World to Come.

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The theology of dispensationalism consists of a distinctive eschatological end times perspective, as all dispensationalists hold to premillennialism and most hold to a pretribulation rapture.

Dispensationalists believe that the nation of Israel is distinct from the Christian Church,[2]:322 and that God has yet to fulfill his promises to national Israel.

These promises include the land promises, which in the future world to come result in a millennial kingdom and Third Temple where Christ, upon his return, will rule the world from Jerusalem[3] for a thousand years. In other areas of theology, dispensationalists hold to a wide range of beliefs within the evangelical and fundamentalist spectrum.[1]:13

With the rise of dispensationalism, some conservative Protestants came to interpret Book of Revelation not as an account of past events (with specific reference to the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70, a position known as Preterism) but as predictions of the future.[4][5][6]

Estimates of the number of followers of Dispensationalist beliefs vary between 5 and 40 million in the United States alone.[7]

- sorry for derailment drett