Children forced to take Vaccines or not be able to go to school

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TheAristocat

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Not be allowed into public school? Why would anyone want to go to public school? This is laughable. The quality of education and morality there is atrocious. I was taking a college-level English course in junior high at a private school. When I went to public school my English skills backslid. I was taken out and was put through a private correspondence course where I was able to work at my own pace, and I went from getting C's and D's to getting A's. There's a reason why American education is falling behind when compared to other developed nations.

I have no idea why anyone would want to put their kid in public school. It should be a last resort which only poverty leads you to.
 

Tommy379

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Don't you think your doctor knows more about this than leymen on the internet and anonymous websites?
If someone told you "Ignore your symptoms of meningitis, it's just the doctors trying to get rich", would you listen to them?
I hope the Doctors are trying to get rich. The only real way to having lasting power, influence, and wealth is by being really good at what you do.
 
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Not be allowed into public school? Why would anyone want to go to public school? This is laughable. The quality of education and morality there is atrocious. I was taking a college-level English course in junior high at a private school. When I went to public school my English skills backslid. There's a reason why American education is falling behind when compared to other developed nations. I have no idea why anyone would want to put their kid in public school. It should be a last resort which only poverty leads you to.
Sadly, this is true. Public schooling in America is an absolute disgrace. Having worked there and being presented with teenagers and adults who were clueless what international currency was and had gone their whole lives thinking that Australian's didn't have their own coins and notes, or not knowing that Australia and New Zealand were two different country's, it was just sickening. That's just two examples off the cuff Their system needs a huge revamp.
 
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I also withdraw from the argument as they never get anywhere. I and Laura will have to agree to disagree on those subjects. I hold no hard feelings against you Laura and I pray that you hold none against me either. FYI I always treat my animals well but sometimes we do have to eat then e.g. the extra roasters.
I invite you to keep expressing opinions so they can be explored further, I don't have any hard feelings toward you and never will. I might have a different take on a matter, but that's where it ends. I'm sure you do treat your animals beautifully, wouldn't have thought any different about you. Keep it up.
 
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Parents have the free will to NOT give their children the vaccine... the consequence is they can't go to public school. It may not be the choice you want, but it's a choice nevertheless.
Yes, when it's a public health concern... absolutely. I'm NOT okay with people spreading something to their children, their children's children, etc... when it could eventually be eradicated.
Eradicated? You mean like liberalism? That'd be awesome! :cool:
 
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KimPetras

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Eradicated? You mean like liberalism? That'd be awesome! :cool:
Unfortunately there isn't a vaccine to stop Trump and/or Hillary from being elected, thereby giving the presidency to a liberal. :( But I agree, that would be awesome.
 
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SteelToedKodiak

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Unfortunately there isn't a vaccine to stop Trump and/or Hillary from being elected, thereby giving the presidency to a liberal. :( But I agree, that would be awesome.
Did you see Joe Biden catch Hillary as she was falling on stage today? Irony?
 
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KimPetras

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Did you see Joe Biden catch Hillary as she was falling on stage today? Irony?
That would be pretty ironic if it has to do with her getting cancer from HPV. I know I ought to pray she has good health, but I suppose I can justify not praying because she claims to have a clean "bill" of health.
 
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Voldemort

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I don't debate issues well, so don't count on me doing that, but I found this article and thought it was interesting. After you read you'll know what side I'm on, but I'm not going to debate, just wanted to share.

https://www.romper.com/p/4-anti-vaccination-arguments-how-to-respond-to-them-9904
This was a good link. Thank you sister for posting it.

I have to say I agree with the sentiments of the link. I've studied this issue endlessly and have come to the conclusion vaccinations, for the most part, are exponentially beneficial.

The biggest phrase I hope people learn from this is, "correlation is not causation". That means that just because your child was immunized and was later diagnosed with autism, doesn't mean it was caused by the immunization.
 

JosephsDreams

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Where did you get your medical degree from?
I have heard that nonsensical reply so many times.
With that reasoning you should not be putting much stock in a fair portion of the NT.
I don't think any of the 12 apostles had a formal rabbinical education.
In fact the groups that did have them, the Pharisee's and the Sadduces's, were mostly little influence in their time to those who were truly seeking. Jesus said it Himself.
A more recent example is a group that has helped countless millions in modern day times that was grass roots with no formal education: AA.
She may not have a formal education in the medical field, but she stated some of her experiences, which are considerable.
And I will tell you what, she has a degree in something that very few MD's do: Results.
That means more to me than all the degrees in the world.
Yet another instance of the mass's failing to think out of the box, failing to be Berian's, failing to apply the very book we live by regarding the subject matter.
The established medical community is laughing all the way to the bank, on your bones, and the bones of millions of other Christians and the general public.
They are steeped in the world system, which is something we are not to be part of, but your comments show your are, at least in this area.

By the way, do you have any idea of the origins of modern medicinal teaching?
Its not all what you might think.
Another money making scam.
Hint, check out the Flexnor report.
 

JosephsDreams

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I hope the Doctors are trying to get rich. The only real way to having lasting power, influence, and wealth is by being really good at what you do.

Yep, being being really good at dispensing prescriptions and limiting their time to 15 minutes per patient. And yeah, also being good at having great insurance coverage a staff that haunts the providers for payments.
A lot of great doctoring going on there.
 
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SteelToedKodiak

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"correlation is not causation". That means that just because your child was immunized and was later diagnosed with autism, doesn't mean it was caused by the immunization.
If only science using the scientific method had a way to verify if the immunization IS causing a correlation to autism, I guess we're just not there yet... Maybe they should science harder!
 

Tommy379

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Yep, being being really good at dispensing prescriptions and limiting their time to 15 minutes per patient. And yeah, also being good at having great insurance coverage a staff that haunts the providers for payments.
A lot of great doctoring going on there.
Thats why I believe health care should be a cash and carry business.
 

JosephsDreams

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This was a good link. Thank you sister for posting it.

I have to say I agree with the sentiments of the link. I've studied this issue endlessly and have come to the conclusion vaccinations, for the most part, are exponentially beneficial.

The biggest phrase I hope people learn from this is, "correlation is not causation". That means that just because your child was immunized and was later diagnosed with autism, doesn't mean it was caused by the immunization.
So why are autism and allergy rates soaring among children?
Coincidence?
If its not the vaccines, then maybe its the food?
But it is probably both, with vaccines getting the clear edge for being more responsible.

Is it not curious to you that these incidences are thousands of percent higher then just 15 or so years ago?
 

JosephsDreams

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This was a good link. Thank you sister for posting it.

I have to say I agree with the sentiments of the link. I've studied this issue endlessly and have come to the conclusion vaccinations, for the most part, are exponentially beneficial.

The biggest phrase I hope people learn from this is, "correlation is not causation". That means that just because your child was immunized and was later diagnosed with autism, doesn't mean it was caused by the immunization.
And even if it is not to clear to you, are you okay with the government strong arming us to force our children take them?
 

Fenner

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This was a good link. Thank you sister for posting it.

I have to say I agree with the sentiments of the link. I've studied this issue endlessly and have come to the conclusion vaccinations, for the most part, are exponentially beneficial.

The biggest phrase I hope people learn from this is, "correlation is not causation". That means that just because your child was immunized and was later diagnosed with autism, doesn't mean it was caused by the immunization.

you're welcome. I'm glad you liked it. I'm very careful as to not dictate what people should and shouldn't do with their children. I don't claim to be a genius when it comes to vaccines. I do have my own children vaccinated as I feel it's important.
 

Tommy379

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So why are autism and allergy rates soaring among children?
Coincidence?
If its not the vaccines, then maybe its the food?
But it is probably both, with vaccines getting the clear edge for being more responsible.

Is it not curious to you that these incidences are thousands of percent higher then just 15 or so years ago?
Because of dumb people who drink mountain dew and red bull are doing the most reproducing.
 

Tommy379

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So why are autism and allergy rates soaring among children?
Coincidence?
If its not the vaccines, then maybe its the food?
But it is probably both, with vaccines getting the clear edge for being more responsible.

Is it not curious to you that these incidences are thousands of percent higher then just 15 or so years ago?
We all had vaccines when I was born and no one had allergies and autism.