Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ZNP

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Right. So in consideration of the fact that a trap was obviously being laid, fully sanctioned and coordinated by the nutter Dem mayor (with criminal and constitution-defying intent), big Dem spooky hill operatives (likewise), the FBI and the rest of the spook agencies:

The whole thing should have been defused and the project abandoned.

Trump's enemies capitalized (pardon the pun) bigly from this disaster. They whole mess was a HUGE payoff for the bad guys. Huge.
Trump and his boyz walked right into this carefully laid minefield like a bunch of loudly braying asses. Absolutely ridiculous.

You see.....Trump has "rallies" that don't amount to a hill of beans. On the other hand, Trumps enemies and wrecking crew boyz are FEARLESSLY indicting everyone and anyone, putting people in jail and destroying their lives and "take them out" in the most bloodthirsty manner imaginable.

Everybody better come up with a "better plan", cuz this one is a dud. Oh yea.....and Trump walked right into this debacle. Willingly, knowingly. And a lot of people got hurt.
Why is this plan a dud? You can look at this as Samson's greatest victory against the Philistines.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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The guy who created this thread did so because he is leary of Trump, as am I and others conservative Christians.
RA who started this thread likes to get arguments started, you'll learn that soon enough. lol The problem is not that you, you yourself are leary of Trump, but that you and Seed and others who liked your post have a blind spot for Biden, to the point of utter untruths. And then you prop him up beside Trump and say he's a better man. It's just utterly untrue.


We don't trust him based on our own judgement, without influence from his opponents.
But you do trust Biden who is lying to your face at this moment. smh

The question meant, if you, genuinely supporting Trump, saw something he were to say or do that would go too far, how far would that be? For example, if he outright denounced certain races and tried to give special privilege to white people above what is equitable, or tried to make it mandatory for schools to teach that the Civil War was not fought over slavery but over states' rights.
Hummm I'm starting to see the problem. Let's turn that light back on the other guy and ask you a question. What if Biden didn't have an issue with drag queens reading to children? What if he had no issue with graphic gay sex being read in school to underage kids and called parents who disagreed terrorists? What if he agreed that kids could have trans surgery without a parents knowledge? What if Asian students were no longer getting a look in to colleges because it's more "equitable" for blacks to take their place?! Two sides to every question so lets start making this thread truly "fair". And this is not just toward you, others need to jump in and answer the same question.


Now granted, the single biggest weapon the Left has is weaponizing race against white people, and asking the exact same questions I just asked. It seems to me that just being white automatically makes you evil nowadays. This is almost as bad as saying just being black automatically makes you evil, but personally I think it's worse because modern civilization is built by white people, and although whites and blacks are equal, I think it is more dangerous to society to attack the founders of it. I'm sorry if that sounds cold. It just seems to me that more damage is done that way. It is like hating the engineer. You can hate him all you want, but if you destroy his work you hurt everyone. And it seems to me that the work done by white people to civilize the world is under attack in the guise of fighting white supremacy.
Ok but that's not new for Dems. They've been lying for years now about who held plantations, started the KKK and refused the right to blacks to vote. And blacks are still on the plantation today, for the most part, and the gov't keeps them on the dole and under control. Remember when Biden said " if you don't vote for me, you ain't black" That is how confident the Dems are of their plantations. Dems invented the race card. Meanwhile they make promise after promise and do nothing for them, why would they? They are guaranteed votes.


In my opinion, the answer is to stop hating your neighbor. When someone wrongs you, don't publicize it. Always forgive. Love your enemies. Never condescend to people who work for you, but speak to them politely and caringly as if they are your equals. Don't take vengeance or act vindictively. Don't use your power to make yourself look bigger by making someone else look smaller, no matter what they have done. Don't go on social media and make fun of Karen. Respect the elders and accommodate their quirks. Don't spread stories about bad people. Let things go. As far as is possible with you, earn your way without taking other people down. You don't need to go to a therapist to complain about your parents and your ex and your coworkers; take your problems to Jesus instead, and He will shoulder those burdens. Can't we all live by these values?
I moved to the south, and I'm not going to say there isn't racism, especially in older people. But there is far less racism than the Dems portray. But they want to work that nerve and stir up issues. BLM gets in these towns, coming from other places trying to get something going. They tried it in our town and a handful of people from somewhere else walked down main street then left. The police and the people would not allow things to get stirred up. We have to live together in these towns. The Dems would love to see a race war. They feed that fire every time they get a chance. Now you see masses of young black people running into stores and robbing so much so that these stores are leaving the cities. Dems have done every thing they can do to corrupt young black males and have them in prison and their baby mommas living of the gov't. It's sad to see that they don't see it.


As far as saying what lie I would tell against Trump to immobilize him if I were a liberal, well first of all, I would have to change my frame of mind from genuine concern about Trump's character to malicious contempt for the man, trying to bring him down to suit my own evil desire. But I refuse to think like an evil person just to model it. That would perpetuate it. I would rather express my own honest concerns about him than lie.
Trump is being railroaded, and an election is being interfered with. No? Ok then explain to me why Mr. Biden is not up on charges for doing the same thing Trump did with papers? Why was Bidens home not raided, he was told they were going to look through his home. No one looked through his wifes intimates drawer in the middle of the night. Biden didn't even have the rights to the material Trump had. Biden wasn't president and had no rights whatsoever. They don't even know how he got the material out and into his home and a dozen other places he hid them. Why is he not being impeached for that right now?! His offense was the worse, but nothing is being said or done about it. Dems want power and they will get it if they have to take Trumps life to stop him. Bet on it.
 

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Why is this plan a dud? You can look at this as Samson's greatest victory against the Philistines.
Frankly, Trump is not my champion. He is just too clumsy, dumb, selfish and narcissistic.
I mean who wants a general that will lead his troops into a kill-box? One that military intel fully informed and warned him of?

The rest of the candidates are utter rubbish or nutters. Even RFK Jr is a rabid climate nutter.
Trump is still the best of the bunch. So we are in real trouble this go-around.
 

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Frankly, Trump is not my champion. He is just too clumsy, dumb, selfish and narcissistic.
I mean who wants a general that will lead his troops into a kill-box? One that military intel fully informed and warned him of?

The rest of the candidates are utter rubbish or nutters. Even RFK Jr is a rabid climate nutter.
Trump is still the best of the bunch. So we are in real trouble this go-around.
Trump is not Samson, Jesus is the strong man. Trump is the jawbone of an ass.
 

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Trump is not Samson, Jesus is the strong man. Trump is the jawbone of an ass.
Really? And who exactly has Trump smote with this jawbone?

Thats right......absolutely nobody.
 

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Really? And who exactly has Trump smote with this jawbone?

Thats right......absolutely nobody.
Then why are the Clintons at this moment trying to find a way to take him out if these "charges" don't work? Cause you know they are, you can see it in her bloodshot eyes.
 

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Why is this plan a dud? You can look at this as Samson's greatest victory against the Philistines.
Here lets look at it this way:

Trump was winning the 2020 election the old-fashioned way. Rallies, speeches, stumping etc.
(And yes, he DID undoubtedly win the 2020 election beyond all doubt. He won all bellwether states to boot).

LONG BEFORE this was going on, the Demonista machine and Bidenista cartel were coordinating with their vast criminal network and enterprises and bad actors, gangsta Dominion officials and gangsta election officials to engineer the greatest election fraud event in all of American history.

And then Trump gets mugged in the 2020 election like a granny in central park at midnight.

THAT......is the difference between Trump and his enemies.

Same goes for the outrageous faux impeachments. Trump was a deer in the headlights of a freight train, and he was just too dumb to PREVENT IT! He should have cleaned the CIA/FBI/Spooky agencies house IMMDIATELY just like DeSantis did. But he was just too stupid.
 

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Then why are the Clintons at this moment trying to find a way to take him out if these "charges" don't work? Cause you know they are, you can see it in her bloodshot eyes.
Yet the Clintonista criminal enterprises continue to run unimpeded, past crimes (which are vast) remain unprosecuted, while Trump is facing career-ending faux politically motivated Stalinesque indictments for stuff that would not get you a misdemeanor in any legit courtroom.
 

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I don't know enough about Biden to endorse him. I said I would vote for the moral president who in Biden's case is a Christian. Maybe I went too far in implying Biden is moral. Maybe I confuse dignity with morality. All these nasty accusations I hear about his 11 year old daughter and corruption with his son, etc, haven't really gotten my attention because they don't seem to be verified. I did not vote for Biden nor did I vote for Trump. I disagree with Biden's endorsement of the woke agenda. I heard him say, "White Supremacy is the worst form of terrorism," and that troubles me, because it seems to me that a lot of young and woke people throw around the term white supremacy as a way of attacking white people and traditional institutions. But let's all remember that this thread is about Trump, not Biden. And I would really appreciate it if you people would stop speaking so pejoratively against me. There is a clear difference between ignorance and insanity, for one thing. You guys speaking so hatefully accomplish no good as Christians. You contribute to the growing problem of hatred dividing us all as Americans and leading us all into dishonor. Since you are Christians, you ought to be speaking graciously, patiently, and respectfully. But your confrontational choices are indicating you lack the character of the Name you represent.

Before I put you on hide I'm going to say a couple of things. First you come on here claiming you don't really know anything about President Donald John Trump but then proceed to talk a bunch of garbage about him while praising sleepy, creepy, pee pants Bidet. And now you are now claiming you don't know much of anything about sleepy, creepy, pee pants Bidet. Your words shout from the mountain tops your lack of critical thinking skills..
On Hide you go!

Another one bite the dust.
 
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Right. Tell that to Elijah or JTB. Or the Apostle Paul for that matter.
Confrontation is a CRITICAL dimension and aspect to revealing the truth of the matter. Ad hominems are frankly meaningless and the typical (and impotent) passive aggressive reaction for those who are in a weak defensive posture.

Nowadays, the weak, vacillating vapid Church always wants to "meet half way", and engage in endless "dialogue", seemingly never to apprehend the actual TRUTH of a matter.

Well friend the TRUTH is that I already know EXACTLY who and what Brandon and the Bidenistas are. Any further debate is a total waste of my time as far as I am concerned. I do however continue to ascertain and compile the facts. All of which say the same thing about Brandon.
You know what, I've had it with the spirit of Elijah and John the Baptist and Paul. Jesus's disciples recognized it as the spirit of fire to consume God's enemies, and Jesus rebuked them saying, "You do not know which spirit you are of. I did not come to condemn, but to bring salvation." Right now in another thread I am taking serious heat for voicing my concerns about the Apostle Paul, but your representation of Paul as justification to act belligerently toward others is EXACTLY why I see a problem with his legacy. NO JUSTIFICATION exists for hatred, no matter how much scripture you use to purvey it. Any spirit can execute scripture, whether good or evil, like any signal can pass through a passive filter, and it is not the scripture that matters but the intention behind it. Jesus clearly demonstrated this when he was tempted. The devil used scripture to try to divide Jesus from God, but Jesus employed the same bulk of scripture in the opposite spirit. So I don't give a curse about what scripture you use to exercise hatred, because hatred is the wrong spirit behind whatever scripture you use for it. 1 John is very clear on both discerning spirits and more importantly on the over-reaching need to love each other.
 

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The world is a river that is flowing to a waterfall. It has been this way for 2,000 years. So there is no one person responsible for this nor is there one person capable of turning the boat around.

Jesus told us this, the apostles told us this, and they told us the way of salvation. So if you have been heeding them and following them and put your hope in them what you are seeing now should make your heart rejoice because now you can easily see you were right to forsake all to follow Jesus.

People who think that Trump is offering salvation are every bit as deceived as those those who think Biden is the moral, Christian choice. Human history proves that Jesus is Lord, it proves He is the only one qualified to be Lord, and it proves that everything and everyone whether we are talking about Hitler, Stalin, Mao or FDR, they all are in the evil one. You don't have to be a mafioso, or a contract killer, or a psychopath to be in the evil one. Anyone that would get you to misaim, to focus on anything other than pursuing Jesus is in the evil one.

What human history proves is that you reap what you sow. Just like the old proverb "be careful what you ask for, you just might get it". This is what is happening to all those who asked for Joe Biden. So let's look at that a little closer.

1. My sister is foul mouthed, she is not a Christian, in fact she has a fit if I say the name of Jesus in her presence. Yet at the same time she thinks that what Trump was caught saying to some relative of Bush behind the scenes is the most horrifying thing. To me I look at her in disbelief, how can you be such a huge hypocrite? You are condemning him for what you yourself have done. So when I say that Trump is the jawbone of the ass that Jesus, the strong man is using to destroy the philistines, that is what I mean. Their faux outrage over his offensive remarks will condemn themselves.

2. On the other hand Trump was impeached for election interference and the Mueller investigation for three years was essentially about election interference. So you have many people who feel this is a very important issue that must be investigated. But when the Mueller investigation revealed that the election interference was from Hillary Clinton's campaign they dropped it like a hot potato. This exposes how hypocritical they are. Now that we know that what Trump did with Ukraine was fully warranted and the real election interference was from Joe Biden, they pretend like this is not important. Again, these things are something people will be destroyed with at the judgement seat. Either you repent now or else you will regret it for eternity.

3. Then they make this big deal about insurrection on January 6th, even sentencing people who weren't even there to 17 and 22 years in prison, and yet when we have Ray Epps and all the video evidence and eyewitness evidence and even his own testimony that he orchestrated the whole thing the indict him for a misdemeanor and we still haven't tried him. They only did this because they were unable to keep some of the evidence against him from leaking out. Again, hypocrisy, you will be destroyed at the judgement seat and if that doesn't worry you then you will also be judged because you don't fear God.

This is why I say Trump is "the jawbone of an ass". If anyone was hoping for a restoration of the economy or the US as the Superpower then that is on you. God has been very clear, the US is the Great Babylon and her judgement will come in one hour and after that she will be gone. The US is not coming back, the US economy is not coming back. You have two choices, choose Jesus now or choose the Antichrist tomorrow. If you can't see the waterfall by now then you are still asleep.
 

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This is what it takes if you want to bring the gospel and the word of God.

2Corinthians 11:23 Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft.

24 Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one.

25 Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep;

26 In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;

27 In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness.

28 Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches.
 

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You know what, I've had it with the spirit of Elijah and John the Baptist and Paul. Jesus's disciples recognized it as the spirit of fire to consume God's enemies, and Jesus rebuked them saying, "You do not know which spirit you are of. I did not come to condemn, but to bring salvation." Right now in another thread I am taking serious heat for voicing my concerns about the Apostle Paul, but your representation of Paul as justification to act belligerently toward others is EXACTLY why I see a problem with his legacy. NO JUSTIFICATION exists for hatred, no matter how much scripture you use to purvey it. Any spirit can execute scripture, whether good or evil, like any signal can pass through a passive filter, and it is not the scripture that matters but the intention behind it. Jesus clearly demonstrated this when he was tempted. The devil used scripture to try to divide Jesus from God, but Jesus employed the same bulk of scripture in the opposite spirit. So I don't give a curse about what scripture you use to exercise hatred, because hatred is the wrong spirit behind whatever scripture you use for it. 1 John is very clear on both discerning spirits and more importantly on the over-reaching need to love each other.
Every city the apostle Paul wandered into, the FIRST thing he did was make a bee-line to the nearest synagogue.
To CONFRONT the Jews with the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

And they tried to kill him for that. Many many times.

THAT is what love is. Saving Truth, in your face, whether you like it or not, regardless of the cost.
And what do the whiny Christians call it? Hate. Yes, that's what they think in this day and age.


So there you go buddy. Enjoy some cheese with your whine.

Oh.....and just a remider: they plotted attempted murder upon Jesus Messiah for the very same "hate crime".
 

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But at least Biden claims Christianity, and he does have some moral character, which seems to be more than Mr. Trump's.
Biden claims to be a Catholic -- not a Christian. As for his moral character, his record shows that it is in the sewage. So either you have no idea about the real Biden, or you would rather promote a false Biden to soothe your conscience. If you voted for this evil liar you are on the side of evildoers. Mr Trump has proven himself to be a good president even while he allowed the Swamp Creatures to retain their power.
 

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I don't know enough about Biden to endorse him. I said I would vote for the moral president who in Biden's case is a Christian. Maybe I went too far in implying Biden is moral. Maybe I confuse dignity with morality.
No, you confuse abject stygian willful ignorance with an informed realistic assessment.
 

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Biden claims to be a Catholic -- not a Christian. As for his moral character, his record shows that it is in the sewage. So either you have no idea about the real Biden, or you would rather promote a false Biden to soothe your conscience. If you voted for this evil liar you are on the side of evildoers. Mr Trump has proven himself to be a good president even while he allowed the Swamp Creatures to retain their power.
I don't know about you, but I am hearing hissing serpentine sing-song posing as ignorance.
 

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2. On the other hand Trump was impeached for election interference and the Mueller investigation for three years was essentially about election interference. So you have many people who feel this is a very important issue that must be investigated. But when the Mueller investigation revealed that the election interference was from Hillary Clinton's campaign they dropped it like a hot potato. This exposes how hypocritical they are. Now that we know that what Trump did with Ukraine was fully warranted and the real election interference was from Joe Biden, they pretend like this is not important. Again, these things are something people will be destroyed with at the judgement seat. Either you repent now or else you will regret it for eternity.
The evil Democrats have been operating with a double standard since Obama. But the cowardly and feckless RINOs do not have the guts to go after them whenever they have a chance. So they get away with it again and again. And let's not forget that the RINOs hate Trump as much as the Communists.