COVID-19 mRNA vaccines: How could anything developed this quickly be safe?

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Dude653

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How idiotic is this! I had Covid and I told you that. I know people who have died from it. Your posts are nasty and slanderous.

There is no reason why someone who survived Covid should have to get the vaccine.

You have done nothing but slander people who ask legitimate questions, many of whom are health care professionals as being satanic and anti science. You set yourself up as smarter than thou, wiser than thou, more scientific than thou and you are nothing but pompous gas bag.
People aren't here trying to save vaccines or a satanic agenda
I countered with maybe deliberately spreading false information and satanic
 

cv5

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Yep C-19 and immigration is a huge problem here in the US. I think that we should go state by state and hold the governors of the states that permit businesses to hire them responsible for their actions. The businesses that hire them should be boycotted and fined until they go bankrupt. Here in Texas they are letting them go if they test positive and their running around everywhere going into stores with no mask https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...-family-told-him-they-were-released-by-border
Class action lawsuit for damages is in order....

Then fire them.
 

iamsoandso

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Class action lawsuit for damages is in order....

Then fire them.

I agree nobody would need to sneak across the border if they couldn't hire them to work without documents. The shocking part though is what's found when you look up the sates, sate by state and find who it is that permits them to be hired.
 

iamsoandso

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Look how it works Abbott says no mask,,,everyone goes yea!!!!... Biden has the BP test to see which ones are possessive for C-19 and sets them free in Texas. Biden says they should wear mask Abbott says you cant make them. Biden knows that the C-19 cases will skyrocket because he's turning them loose,,,Abbott don't see it coming. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-prohibiting-cities-requiring-masks-vaccines/ https://www.valleycentral.com/news/...rants-with-covid-19-release-by-border-patrol/ ,,,,But why?,,,It's election time in Texas and Biden knows that Texas is #2 state that employees undocumented migrant workers which is why their stacked up at the Texas border to get into Texas https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/immigrants-in-texas https://www.americanprogress.org/is...g-undocumented-workers-pandemics-front-lines/ So the plan seems to be to test them and turn those that have C-19 loose in in the states that wont follow the mask mandates and take the ones that don't have it up north that way C-19 overruns the states that have no mask mandates and the ones who do have less.
 

iamsoandso

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It's probably best to just keep everyone from panicking by agreeing but I think everyone will eventually figure this out. As with the 1918 pandemic no one, absolutely no one will ever achieve herd immunity against it. The proof is in the numbers the more you consider the 1918 pandemic in that this is an hundred years afterwards and they are still suggesting to us all to take an yearly vaccine are they not?

But now from year to year they whip up a batch of vaccine and suggest we all take it and then tell us that it's not the strain(mutation) that is circulating that particular year. They always say that the shot they are giving that year isn't for that years outbreak but we should go ahead and take it anyways,lol...

That's because as they now well understand the 1918 strain was referred to as the mother of all of the different mutations that followed from year to year. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3291398/ So you see if this is similar to the pandemic of 1918 and it will kill millions of people year after year for the next hundred years,,, because it mutates as fast as they try to deal with it, well then C-19 is nothing more than another mother. That is based on what happened with the virus from 1918 till now if C-19 takes the same path as it did then eventually it will dawn on everyone that if you actually had ever developed an herd immunity then no one would need to take the flu shot.

So there's an hundred years of study of this they are not bringing up to so that nobody begins to panic and that the structure of the worlds economy does not fall apart. If you consider that the 1918 influenza is still killing people an hundred years later and we have not yet achieved herd immunity yet right,(no need for a vaccine if we had),,,?

So then this is just another mother to the mutations that will follow and just when they think they have a vaccine they will need to create another for the newest mutation. Again just when those who didn't take the vaccine catch it and survive it their antibodies will dwindle away over time and they will catch an new mutation as fast as it mutates. Again neither of the two,those who take the vaccine nor those who do not are safe from this other mother.

Yes I agree vaccine or no vaccine it's not going to matter(I'm not trying to get you to wear a mask or not ect. It's gonna blow through them,,,,it already is https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc...tts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html
 

cv5

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July 25, 2021: In a recent NSW (Australia) Covid update, the latest NSW Ministry of Health data reveals a shocking reality about those hospitalized with Covid. All but one patient was fully vaccinated and the other patient had a single dose of the Covid vaccine.

https://newtube.app/TonyHeller/uUfFCeh


July 25, 2021: In a recent NSW (Australia) Covid update, the latest NSW Ministry of Health data reveals a shocking reality about those hospitalized with Covid. All but one patient was fully vaccinated and the other patient had a single dose of the Covid vaccine. In other words, all 141 hospitalized Covid patients were vaccinated (140 fully, 1 partially). The breakdown of the NSW Channel 9 News alert is provided below:



- 141 people in hospital with Covid

- 43 of which are in intensive care

- 18 of which require ventilation

- 60 of which are under the age of 55

- 28 of which are under the age of 35

- 140 were fully vaccinated, 1 had only received a single dose of vaccine


https://www.extremelyamerican.com/p...al-with-covid-all-but-1-were-fully-vaccinated
 
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And you had to post your conspiracy source... yay. Anyway an EUA isn't uncommon, and testing has been done previously for years with other kinds of coronavirus. But anyway, be happy in your little fearful deceitful place. I'm out.
A conspiracy is the truth that nobody wants to believe because it is far too disturbing. Who are you to declare a source is false? You have yet to provide any credible sources for your beliefs.
 
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A conspiracy is the truth that nobody wants to believe because it is far too disturbing. Who are you to declare a source is false? You have yet to provide any credible sources for your beliefs.
No ma'am I don't need to provide anything. But regarding my "beliefs" I've flown around the world more than once, in different directions, different latitudes. If this wasn't possible then I would have fallen off the edge of your so-called flat-earth. I'm not here to prove anything, these things have been proven over and over throughout the years. Sooo It's for you the ones supporting all this nonsense to prove it wrong? which, well... you can't.
 
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No ma'am I don't need to provide anything. But regarding my "beliefs" I've flown around the world more than once, in different directions, different latitudes. If this wasn't possible then I would have fallen off the edge of your so-called flat-earth. I'm not here to prove anything, these things have been proven over and over throughout the years. Sooo It's for you the ones supporting all this nonsense to prove it wrong? which, well... you can't.
Fallen off the edge? Oh vey. Yes, I'm sure the Creator of all things couldn't figure out a way to keep you from falling "off the edge".
 
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flygplan

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Fallen off the edge? Oh vey. Yes, I'm sure the Creator of all things couldn't figure out a way to keep you from falling "off the edge".
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Why don't you try to forget the things you've been indoctrinated to believe and use your God-given senses to discover the truth. The heliocentric model was invented by a Freemason long before we could ever travel in the sky. That's so reliable. And you might be interested to discover the origins of NASA. Or, that might be too much truth for you.
 

Dude653

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Fallen off the edge? Oh vey. Yes, I'm sure the Creator of all things couldn't figure out a way to keep you from falling "off the edge".
We've known for 2,000 years that the Earth isn't flat
 

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Back to the front lines:

‘A preventable illness’: Local doctors express frustration over current COVID-19 surge

Dr. Walter Doty, pulmonologist with Pulmonary Associates and an intensivist in the Critical Care Unit at Southeast Health in Dothan, “I guess one of the newer emotions is frustration,” Doty said. “We certainly started to feel a lot of that and almost bordering on anger just because we have something at this point. The difference between now and last year is that this is becoming by and large a preventable illness. And unfortunately, we’re not doing the things that we need to do to try to prevent it. And as a result we’re unfortunately suffering the consequences right now.”

Dr. Allen Latimer, a pulmonologist and intensive care physician, “The explanations I’ve heard for people not taking the vaccine are not substantiated by science,” Latimer said. “I’ve not had anyone give a logical explanation as to why they would not take the vaccine. Unfortunately, I’ve talked to a number of patients who said they were waiting to see if the vaccine was safe, and they’ve died in the meantime. We know the vaccine is safe, and the hesitation behind the vaccine is one of the difficulties as a healthcare provider – these deaths feel unnecessary and could have very well been prevented by taking a vaccine.”

Complete Article:

https://dothaneagle.com/lifestyles/...cle_cd977f50-f182-11eb-acab-3bf39a853990.html
 

shittim

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Really disappointed in you to see your off the wall promotion of the "flat earth" sewage.
I had hope you would be a rational, sound, fruitful contributor to CC.
 

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Dr. Allen Latimer, a pulmonologist and intensive care physician, “The explanations I’ve heard for people not taking the vaccine are not substantiated by science,” Latimer said. “I’ve not had anyone give a logical explanation as to why they would not take the vaccine. Unfortunately, I’ve talked to a number of patients who said they were waiting to see if the vaccine was safe, and they’ve died in the meantime. We know the vaccine is safe, and the hesitation behind the vaccine is one of the difficulties as a healthcare provider – these deaths feel unnecessary and could have very well been prevented by taking a vaccine.”

Complete Article:

https://dothaneagle.com/lifestyles/...cle_cd977f50-f182-11eb-acab-3bf39a853990.html
I do have a few questions that I consider logical and reasonable.

1. Why aren't the people who have recovered from Covid19 factored into the equation? Every single epidemic has died out due to people who recovered from the disease, never once in human history has a pandemic been stopped due to a vaccine. Covid19 is related to SARS and it appears that SARS conferred at least partial immunity to Covid19 to people for at least 10 years.

2. We have 3 effective treatments for the Disease, about 99.5% of people who get it will survive, so unless you fall into a very high risk population why are we mandating the vaccine?

3. The vaccine only has emergency authorization, it takes 12 years to fully know the long term effects of a vaccine and as a result Nuremberg laws outlaw it being mandated, so why are they talking about mandating this vaccine?

4. Why are they hiding the side effects and risks? No doubt most people that get the shot are not having serious side effects but to accurately assess the risk people need to have access to all relevant data.

5. Every vaccine is toxic and poses some risks and rarely if ever is a vaccine appropriate for everyone, so why are they saying everyone should get this?

6. If the goal is human health and the safety of society why wouldn't they focus on all the things you can do to reduce your risk. They are offering people free fries if they get the shot, free donuts, free beer. We know that obesity and diabetes are two very high risk factors. It seems to me they would be focusing on boosting the immune system and reducing comorbidities like obesity and diabetes.

7. Why did the DOJ drop the charges against Cuomo when we know that his actions cost thousands of lives in NY?

8. Why isn't Fauci and the Tech giants being investigated for criminal behavior in lying about Hydrochloroquine?

9. If the vaccine protects you from the disease then why do you care? Get the vaccine and you don't have to worry about what other people do.
 

shittim

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a co-opted DOJ and government.
 
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Really disappointed in you to see your off the wall promotion of the "flat earth" sewage.
I had hope you would be a rational, sound, fruitful contributor to CC.
So sorry to disappoint you.
 
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