Dr. Birx and Dr Fauci should be fired for fear-mongering

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Yea i think it’s doing something to the lungs that is unprecedented damaging them without major issues like being on a ventilator etc. just surviving isn’t the only issue with this virus. how many people with be left with battle wounds
 
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A vast amount of people will survive but the amount of post issues is unclear. there could be thousands more left with lung damage
 
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if I get this I’m out I don’t think I’ll make it, like I mentioned I got lung damage already but o well I lived 52 years can’t complain sometimes we take things on that wasn’t our fault. Cause I don’t collect or eat rare animals that are on the brink of instinction or eat bat soup.
 
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From what I’ve read there is no clear evidence this virus came from bats or pangolins it is not there yet but there is something of covo 19 in rare pangolins. though I think there needs to be a change in it I disagree with the author on that. if it’s rare and indangered why not outlaw eating them or what ever the people do with them.

looks like a armor dila

https://www.sciencealert.com/corona...-why-wildlife-markets-need-better-regulations

so there a window of created virus if there is no smoking gun on animal transmission.
 

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These two so called experts are now throwing out number like 100,000 to 200,000 deaths from the Wuhan virus when so many measures have been put in place to reduce contact and also to provide effective drugs. Dr. Zelenko has been having almost a 100% success rate with his combination of drugs. They should be immediately fired and replaced with Dr. Ben Carson, a Christian, a renowned surgeon, and a calm man who would speak the truth.

UPDATE: Dr. Zelenko Has Now Treated 699 Coronavirus Patients with 100% SUCCESS RATE -- Using Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc and Z-Pak

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...rate-using-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-and-z-pak/

Now if you want the truth about deaths in the states, here are the latest numbers from Johns Hopkins interactive website (which is accessible to anyone):

MONTANA -- ZERO DEATHS
NORTH DAKOTA -- ZERO DEATHS
WYOMING -- ZERO DEATHS
NEBRASKA -- ZERO DEATHS

WEST VIRGINA -- ZERO DEATHS
ALASKA -- ZERO DEATHS
HAWAII -- ZERO DEATHS
UTAH -- 1 DEATH
MAINE - 1 DEATH
NEW HAMPSHIRE - 1 DEATH
NEW MEXICO - 1 DEATH
ALABAMA - 1 DEATH
IDAHO - 3 DEATHS
IOWA - 3 DEATHS
MISSISSIPPI - 3 DEATHS

In view of this those doctors who have been undermining Trump should be sent home and their mouths should be quarantined. That goes for the mainstream media also.

BTW Belarus (near Russia) has announced that it will not have any shut downs, and that people should continue drinking vodka and enjoying themselves!

If you consider the nations that seem to have things under control Russia,China,South Korea ect. and bare in mind the photo's/images of those nations during this pandemic you will notice that their all wearing a mask in the general public.

Now high quality mask are best but if not obtainable homemade mask just like the ones you see them wearing on M.A.S.H. or any of the ones you can find patterns of are better than nothing. If there only half as good then that's fifty percent better than nothing. On the News the nurses and doctors are holding up signs begging for PPE's and making gowns ect. themselves out of trash bags. If you consider their voice in the matter then you will notice that they would not ask for nor accept homemade gowns or mask if they saw them as useless in this.

It is apparent that as we look back on this to the beginning that it was suggested that we not go out and buy mask or wear them. Asymptomatic cases which are undetected at present are the fuel to this fire and as soon as it is implemented that all citizens wear mask then they will cough in the mask instead of on you,in the air,on the surfaces ect...

As soon as this comes into practice(next few weeks) then things will stabilize but the Asymptomatic cases will still be present for several incubation cycles. If we are fortunate the assessment of Fouci and Brix will become a reality(which is a middle model projection) which means they have abandoned a best case model hope and are focused on the middle case model in hopes of the worst case scenario becoming a reality.
 

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if I get this I’m out I don’t think I’ll make it, like I mentioned I got lung damage already but o well I lived 52 years can’t complain sometimes we take things on that wasn’t our fault. Cause I don’t collect or eat rare animals that are on the brink of instinction or eat bat soup.
have faith, God can do all things. He made our bodies, He can heal our bodies.

on a personal note, about 3 years ago, my basement flooded during a heavy t storm.
I cleaned it up, came into contact with mold and mildew. found out the hard way I have a severe mold allergy.
I spent weeks coughing, wheezing , in pain in lungs.

after a e.r. trip at 2am, got a breathing treatment, some meds, and got better.

lung issues are a serious issue, folks who have never had one have no idea..
 
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have faith, God can do all things. He made our bodies, He can heal our bodies.

on a personal note, about 3 years ago, my basement flooded during a heavy t storm.
I cleaned it up, came into contact with mold and mildew. found out the hard way I have a severe mold allergy.
I spent weeks coughing, wheezing , in pain in lungs.

after a e.r. trip at 2am, got a breathing treatment, some meds, and got better.

lung issues are a serious issue, folks who have never had one have no idea..
Yea I found out the hard way, it’s getting better but very slowing not sure it will ever be like it was 8 months ago. jogging would be off my list for now climbing steps walking to far I get winded and need to stop, it’s a eye opener when something like that happens out of the blue. then again I lived all my life with a flittering heart I have a bad valve since birth I am grateful for the years I’ve had so far, I’m not concerned with my self but of others more than me.
 

iamsoandso

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None what so ever I have had cancer,radiation,chemo asthma progressed to copd,,,My lymph nodes from my neck down were treated/removed with radiation and I have lived with the real fact that if I caught the seasonal flu it might overcome me. This is not an hopeless fight but it is an fight that is capable of successfully being fought.
 
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None what so ever I have had cancer,radiation,chemo asthma progressed to copd,,,My lymph nodes from my neck down were treated/removed with radiation and I have lived with the real fact that if I caught the seasonal flu it might overcome me. This is not an hopeless fight but it is an fight that is capable of successfully being fought.
arg sorry to hear that my friend, come to think about it, I have to take antibiotics even before seeing the dentist cause of the risk of infections to my heart I never really thought about the risk of the flu but I’ve read heart issues can raise the risk of death with the flu.
 

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arg sorry to hear that my friend, come to think about it, I have to take antibiotics even before seeing the dentist cause of the risk of infections to my heart I never really thought about the risk of the flu but I’ve read heart issues can raise the risk of death with the flu.
Antibiotics will not work on Covid-19 or any virus....

Don't catch it is your best chance...
 

gb9

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Yea I found out the hard way, it’s getting better but very slowing not sure it will ever be like it was 8 months ago. jogging would be off my list for now climbing steps walking to far I get winded and need to stop, it’s a eye opener when something like that happens out of the blue. then again I lived all my life with a flittering heart I have a bad valve since birth I am grateful for the years I’ve had so far, I’m not concerned with my self but of others more than me.
when I was so sick, I almost passed out just walking around a small magnolia tree, picking up leaves for 5 minutes,,,
 
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Antibiotics will not work on Covid-19 or any virus....

Don't catch it is your best chance...
So far it doesn’t seem like it is, there has been some reports of that combo meds working but Sunday the FDA is allowing all hospitals to start using it not just a trial run now just in ny it’s nationwide so we will see if the numbers start going down but today was just as bad in ny over 200,

200 deaths a day in one state per day is not the norm for the flu I don’t think I know about 50,000 a year but that’s over all states with 40 millions infections
 
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when I was so sick, I almost passed out just walking around a small magnolia tree, picking up leaves for 5 minutes,,,
Yup the oxygen absorbed by the lungs is crucial to sustaining life along with every organ, but you can live with half a liver it will grow back, some organs can be removed and still live with no major issues, unless a person gets a lung transplant bad lungs is hard to live with.

heart transplants I think is easier than lungs I’ve read lung transplants surgery has major risks and complications are common.
 

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So far it doesn’t seem like it is, there has been some reports of that combo meds working but Sunday the FDA is allowing all hospitals to start using it not just a trial run now just in ny it’s nationwide so we will see if the numbers start going down but today was just as bad in ny over 200

Their trying to find something to combat this with because they have never seen it hence novel(novelty) corona(crown like)-virus. There are ways to disrupt it from shedding off which you can do...

Use 1/3 cup(5tbls) bleach in a gallon of water. Use a rag and dip your hands into the h20/bleach and then squeeze out the rag. Wash the mailbox,the mail,,the door knobs the light switches,,the bottom of your shoes the change you get at the store(everything). Wipe down the Groceries and toss the bags before you take them in your house. 3-7 percent hydrogen peroxide in h20(5.7 tsp to one quart) and spray down the interior of your trunk. This along with mask,glasses,gloves ect. when in town. Use
1/3 bleach to a gallon of h20 and a sandwich bag,squeeze out a wash rag for each person in car and zip it up in sandwich bag use it to sterilize your hands because in practice I notice mine touch my face instead of listening so I wipe them with the washrag on trips to town.

Buy your gas where you can pay without going inside. Take paper towels and dip them in the bleach/h20 and use them on the gas nozzle like a glove and throw it away before you get in your car(touch door knob) so open gas cap first. Every can at the store and every bag either got put on the shelf or picked up and looked at and put back by an potential asymptomatic positive carrier. Take the sandwich baggie into the store with you and use it on shopping cart. Get one from the ones in the buggy place outside and wipe it down then and push it into the store.
 

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If we are fortunate the assessment of Fouci and Brix will become a reality
OUTRAGEOUS!

Dr. Birx Pushes COMPLETE RUBBISH on American Public — Insists without One Iota of Proof that the US Economic Suicide Cut Coronavirus Deaths by Over a Million Deaths!

Coronavirus Task Force Response Coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx again on Tuesday pushed the talking point that by shutting down the US economy the Trump administration, US government and Coronavirus task force was able to cut the total coronavirus deaths in the United States from 1-2 million to 100,000 to 200,000.

This is based on “models” by her chosen scientific “experts”.This truly is outrageous.


When Americans are not able to feed their babies or buy bread in June they can thank conspiracy theorists like Dr. Deborah Birx.

As The Gateway Pundit reported numerous times — The global community shut down their economies after the World Health Organization (WHO) warned that the coronavirus had a 3.4% mortality rate.
WHO leader, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, really stoked fear across the planet when he claimed the COVID-19 had a 3.4% mortality rate and then compared that to the annual estimated flu mortality rate of 0.1%.


We don’t know how horrible the economic damage will be thanks to the ‘models’ pushed by ‘experts’ but we know it will be huge. On Sunday Dr. Deborah Birx spoke at the daily White House coronavirus press conference.

She followed Dr. Anthony Fauci who earlier today estimated the United States will see from 100,000 to 200,000 coronavirus deaths in the coming weeks and months.


Dr. Birx said the Task Force is reevaluating numbers and is in agreement with the Chris Murray study that was released last Thursday.

Dr. Birx said all of the flu models predicted somewhere between 1.6 and 2.2 million deaths if the government did not mitigate. It is not clear where she or the other experts came up this this excessive number. Dr Birx said some models predicted half of the United States would be infected.

There is not a single country that has seen more than 13,000 deaths from the virus. Yet, Dr. Birx told the American public on Sunday and again on Tuesday that the US was going to see over one million deaths.

This is complete rubbish.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...avirus-deaths-by-over-a-million-deaths-video/

[NOTE: WHY HAS TRUMP NOT FIRED THIS FEAR-MONGERING WOMAN?]
 

iamsoandso

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OUTRAGEOUS!

Dr. Birx Pushes COMPLETE RUBBISH on American Public — Insists without One Iota of Proof that the US Economic Suicide Cut Coronavirus Deaths by Over a Million Deaths!

Coronavirus Task Force Response Coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx again on Tuesday pushed the talking point that by shutting down the US economy the Trump administration, US government and Coronavirus task force was able to cut the total coronavirus deaths in the United States from 1-2 million to 100,000 to 200,000.


This is based on “models” by her chosen scientific “experts”.This truly is outrageous.

When Americans are not able to feed their babies or buy bread in June they can thank conspiracy theorists like Dr. Deborah Birx.

As The Gateway Pundit reported numerous times — The global community shut down their economies after the World Health Organization (WHO) warned that the coronavirus had a 3.4% mortality rate.
WHO leader, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, really stoked fear across the planet when he claimed the COVID-19 had a 3.4% mortality rate and then compared that to the annual estimated flu mortality rate of 0.1%.


We don’t know how horrible the economic damage will be thanks to the ‘models’ pushed by ‘experts’ but we know it will be huge. On Sunday Dr. Deborah Birx spoke at the daily White House coronavirus press conference.

She followed Dr. Anthony Fauci who earlier today estimated the United States will see from 100,000 to 200,000 coronavirus deaths in the coming weeks and months.

Dr. Birx said the Task Force is reevaluating numbers and is in agreement with the Chris Murray study that was released last Thursday.

Dr. Birx said all of the flu models predicted somewhere between 1.6 and 2.2 million deaths if the government did not mitigate. It is not clear where she or the other experts came up this this excessive number. Dr Birx said some models predicted half of the United States would be infected.

There is not a single country that has seen more than 13,000 deaths from the virus. Yet, Dr. Birx told the American public on Sunday and again on Tuesday that the US was going to see over one million deaths.

This is complete rubbish.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...avirus-deaths-by-over-a-million-deaths-video/

[NOTE: WHY HAS TRUMP NOT FIRED THIS FEAR-MONGERING WOMAN?]

I is a bit like Revelation 9:20 in that their focus is on the economy and that they refuse to repent of it is it not?... https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-Chapter-9/
 
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Their trying to find something to combat this with because they have never seen it hence novel(novelty) corona(crown like)-virus. There are ways to disrupt it from shedding off which you can do...

Use 1/3 cup(5tbls) bleach in a gallon of water. Use a rag and dip your hands into the h20/bleach and then squeeze out the rag. Wash the mailbox,the mail,,the door knobs the light switches,,the bottom of your shoes the change you get at the store(everything). Wipe down the Groceries and toss the bags before you take them in your house. 3-7 percent hydrogen peroxide in h20(5.7 tsp to one quart) and spray down the interior of your trunk. This along with mask,glasses,gloves ect. when in town. Use
1/3 bleach to a gallon of h20 and a sandwich bag,squeeze out a wash rag for each person in car and zip it up in sandwich bag use it to sterilize your hands because in practice I notice mine touch my face instead of listening so I wipe them with the washrag on trips to town.

Buy your gas where you can pay without going inside. Take paper towels and dip them in the bleach/h20 and use them on the gas nozzle like a glove and throw it away before you get in your car(touch door knob) so open gas cap first. Every can at the store and every bag either got put on the shelf or picked up and looked at and put back by an potential asymptomatic positive carrier. Take the sandwich baggie into the store with you and use it on shopping cart. Get one from the ones in the buggy place outside and wipe it down then and push it into the store.
Those are some good ideas thanks for sharing, some folks think why go through the trouble of cleaning just trust the Lord to take care of things yet the Bible mentions about keeping things satanized not that God couldn’t keep the infections out but we have a part in it as well. I know these times are not like living in camps thousands of years ago but the analogy of keeping germs under control is still the same I believe.

Deuteronomy 23

12You must have a place outside the camp to go and relieve yourself. 13And you must have a digging tool in your equipment so that when you relieve yourself you can dig a hole and cover up your excrement.
 

iamsoandso

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Those are some good ideas thanks for sharing, some folks think why go through the trouble of cleaning just trust the Lord to take care of things yet the Bible mentions about keeping things satanized not that God couldn’t keep the infections out but we have a part in it as well. I know these times are not like living in camps thousands of years ago but the analogy of keeping germs under control is still the same I believe.

Deuteronomy 23

12You must have a place outside the camp to go and relieve yourself. 13And you must have a digging tool in your equipment so that when you relieve yourself you can dig a hole and cover up your excrement.

Your correct we will also dwell in the camp of the saints even after the mill. ,,,keep it clean. https://biblehub.com/revelation/20-9.htm
 
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huh I never thought about parasites and germs etc to bible verses until now, IMO I’ve always thought of it as symbolic but probably not to bring lice or other germs in the camp all so.

Leviticus 23:14
"The one to be cleansed shall then wash his clothes and shave off all his hair and bathe in water and be clean Now afterward, he may enter the camp, but he shall stay outside his tent for seven days.