Former President Trump Indicted By DOJ

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Ted01

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Republicans had their bite at the apple to fix things in Trumps four years in office and they squandered it. I don't feel sorry for them or for Trump. If Trump would've followed through on his promise to drain the swamp he wouldn't be in the position he's in now.
I think that you're assuming that either party actually wants to fix things... it ain't broken to them.
 

ZNP

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I think that you're assuming that either party actually wants to fix things... it ain't broken to them.
Yep, they don't speak this language.

25 And this is the writing that was written, Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin.
 

Cameron143

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This is a little naive. Trump made plenty of mistakes, but he was 1 man, he woefully underestimated the problem, and establishment members of his own party undermined him. Given the size of the problem, he performed admirably.
The more I think about this, the more respect I have for Trump. He could have just gone back to a quiet opulent life and things probably would have settled down. Instead, he chose to fight.
I believe Trump won the last election. I don't even think it was close. And I realize part of what motivates Trump is his ego and he can't stand the thought of losing. But he does have a genuine care for the welfare of America and the American people. And we need a whole lot more people like this if this country is to flourish again.
 

LightOfMyLife

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The more I think about this, the more respect I have for Trump. He could have just gone back to a quiet opulent life and things probably would have settled down. Instead, he chose to fight.
I believe Trump won the last election. I don't even think it was close. And I realize part of what motivates Trump is his ego and he can't stand the thought of losing. But he does have a genuine care for the welfare of America and the American people. And we need a whole lot more people like this if this country is to flourish again.
Praying that the judge dismisses all 7 counts being held against him next Tuesday, and his 77th birthday is Wednesday. I wonder what political party the judge is, and pray that he is fair judges righteously. :love:
 

Cameron143

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Praying that the judge dismisses all 7 counts being held against him next Tuesday, and his 77th birthday is Wednesday. I wonder what political party the judge is, and pray that he is fair judges righteously. :love:
I'm a lot less concerned about the human judge and much more concerned about the Righteous Judge.
We got here because God's people stopped relying on Him. It will get fixed when God's people return to Him. I thought all that surrounded covid would drive people to their knees. It didn't. Until something does, it will continue to get worse.
 

LightOfMyLife

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I'm a lot less concerned about the human judge and much more concerned about the Righteous Judge.
We got here because God's people stopped relying on Him. It will get fixed when God's people return to Him. I thought all that surrounded covid would drive people to their knees. It didn't. Until something does, it will continue to get worse.
I know what you mean when I said righteously I am hoping for a Christian judge on earth, but I said Righteous Judge because I know we have one in heaven who is. It would be nice in Trump's case to have an earthly judge who judges righteously for his sake. This world is not going to get better because the Bible says evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse deceiving and being deceived. The better is when Gods people go home as in death or raptured. Which ever one comes first.
 

Cameron143

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I know what you mean when I said righteously I am hoping for a Christian judge on earth, but I said Righteous Judge because I know we have one in heaven who is. It would be nice in Trump's case to have an earthly judge who judges righteously for his sake. This world is not going to get better because the Bible says evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse deceiving and being deceived.
I actually believe it will get better over time. I also believe that God's people will eventually return to Him. I just hope we don't have to see our country destroyed before this happens.
If the federal judge was chosen by the DOJ I can assure you they are not righteous. That's one of the criteria for being chosen.
And I've read enough of your posts to know your trust is in God and not men.
 

LightOfMyLife

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I actually believe it will get better over time. I also believe that God's people will eventually return to Him. I just hope we don't have to see our country destroyed before this happens.
If the federal judge was chosen by the DOJ I can assure you they are not righteous. That's one of the criteria for being chosen.
And I've read enough of your posts to know your trust is in God and not men.
When I said worse, I meant more evil this world has become with the gay agenda a Sodom & Gomorrah Part 2. There is so much deception and Jesus told us it would be like this before he returns in the rapture to get his bride.
 

Cameron143

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When I said worse, I meant more evil this world has become with the gay agenda a Sodom & Gomorrah Part 2. There is so much deception and Jesus told us it would be like this before he returns in the rapture to get his bride.
We differ eschatologically. And while God did judge Sodom, He didn't judge the world.
We've gone through many dark times throughout history; somehow the world remains. I suspect that's all that's happening now.
 

LightOfMyLife

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We differ eschatologically. And while God did judge Sodom, He didn't judge the world.
We've gone through many dark times throughout history; somehow the world remains. I suspect that's all that's happening now.
God is not willing that any should perish, but come to repentance. He is giving people more time to repent, but when the time is up that is it. Do you not believe in a pre-trib rapture?
 

Cameron143

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God is not willing that any should perish, but come to repentance. He is giving people more time to repent, but when the time is up that is it. Do you not believe in a pre-trib rapture?
I believe it will take a long time to get to a number that no man can number. I can count pretty high.
 

ZNP

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After reading through the 47 page indictment it is clear that the crime Trump is facing charges over is not some trivial "pay for play" scheme where you sell out the country to a foreign power for $5 million, nor is it some transparently corrupt "charitable" organization, a front for your common shakedown. No, this crime is straight out of the pages of a legal thriller in fact they made it into one of the most iconic legal thrillers on TV (I think Jerry Seinfeld was the criminal), Trump is being charged with having overdue library books.
 
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This country is still a democracy, government by the people and for the people. At this point we are over 70% of the country viewing Biden as a crook and the DOJ is being weaponized for political purposes. Biden loses, Trump wins.
What Is your answer to the question I’m confused by your response?
 

ZNP

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What Is your answer to the question I’m confused by your response?
With this DOJ is it possible for Trump to "go to jail"? Of course, but we are already seeing the union hanging by a thread, it would not survive that.

In my opinion 70% of the country will stand with Trump, 15% will stand in no man's land, and the remaining 15% will be put to an open shame.

What I think is far more likely is a catastrophic failure of this country that necessitates the return of Trump and the removal of the corrupt regime. It could be the collapse of the dollar, it could be a natural disaster, or it could be an act of war. It could also be some health event to Joe Biden. We are in a constitutional crisis right now.
 

p_rehbein

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This is a little naive. Trump made plenty of mistakes, but he was 1 man, he woefully underestimated the problem, and establishment members of his own party undermined him. Given the size of the problem, he performed admirably.
Well, for the first two years of his Presidency, the Republicans controlled the House, the Senate, and the Supreme Court. Still, they managed to do very little to "drain the swamp," or "build the wall."

What accomplishments that were done were because of the Senate using the Nuclear Option to get passed the Democrats trying to block their moves.
 

p_rehbein

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I don’t know what’s going to happen in America season 12, but all this does is make Trump more popular and it shows [to some people] that the political parties in charge [especially Dems] are no different than China or the old USSR.
I'd say it's as much true that it makes him as unpopular as it makes him popular....... He is easily the most divisive person in National Politics to come along for quite some time.