Israel Declares War

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Magenta

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You have never sat in a library and read primary sources so your opinion is uninformed and not useful for a fruitful discussion.

All you can do dismiss because you have no deep knowledge with which to even rebut my comment.

Like I stated a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Are you feeling insecure that you have to make this personal.
:geek:
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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You have never sat in a library and read primary sources so your opinion is uninformed and not useful for a fruitful discussion.
You have no idea what I've read or what my sources are.


All you can do dismiss because you have no deep knowledge with which to even rebut my comment.
Rebut your comment that Hitler who wrote Mein Kampf, is no different than Churchill? A 5th grader could rebut that comment!
 

ZNP

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Better videos of the protests

 

PennEd

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Not silly at all. It was quite genius how he exposed the caller's heart. They wouldn't be "targeting" their OWN people with bombs.... the question is if they would adopt the same practices of "targeting" Hamas if they were in Israel.

It's a gotcha because it exposes that it's not just Hamas that Israel is targeting. They are targeting civilians, most of which are children. We agree though, Israel wouldn't utilize this strategy on their "OWN" people... Why not? Listen at the 7:00 mark of the video and the caller explains... "They would care more about Israeli life than Palestinian [civilian] lives."

It's difficult to reconcile that Israel supposedly "isn't trying to kill civilians" and then acknowledge that if Hamas was hiding within Israel the current strategy wouldn't be viable because they would actually care about their own civilian lives.

So when people ask "what strategy would you use"... the answer would be whatever the strategy used if Hamas was hiding within Israel. I don't view Israeli lives as more precious and sacred than Palestinian children. This illustrates the state of one's heart towards innocent life if you feel there is a difference.
I reiterate. It’s silly.

Only Captain Obvious would point out that a country or people wouldn’t target their own people to get to the enemy, the same way they’d target their enemies.

I can’t even believe this absurdly has to be addressed.

The cognitive dissonance employed is staggering.

This happens in America and every American will demand the destruction of the place of origin. Just like we ALL wanted after 9/11. Watch:
https://x.com/Ostrov_A/status/1718623466679628090?s=20
 

Smoke

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I reiterate. It’s silly.

Only Captain Obvious would point out that a country or people wouldn’t target their own people to get to the enemy, the same way they’d target their enemies.

I can’t even believe this absurdly has to be addressed.

The cognitive dissonance employed is staggering.

This happens in America and every American will demand the destruction of the place of origin. Just like we ALL wanted after 9/11. Watch:
https://x.com/Ostrov_A/status/1718623466679628090?s=20
So you admit that "targeting" Hamas and killing civilians is also targeting "their [Palestinian] own people". Finally, someone else admitting a truth they don't normally want to admit out loud.

Israel and pro-Israel people have been hiding behind the narrative that "Israel has the right to defend themselves" when we point out that they are blowing up more children than Hamas terrorists. They say "Israel isn't targeting the civilians, they are targeting Hamas". However, when the scenario is reversed, you say "Israel wouldn't target their own people". Exactly! You aren't grasping what you're admitting by saying this. You're explicitly stating that Israel would be targeting their own people when they "target Hamas" if they were hiding within Israel and used the same tactics. However, when Israel "targets Hamas" and kills more Palestinian children, you say "Israel isn't targeting them".

Read this a few times and I promise you'll understand what you just confessed.
 

iamsoandso

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So you admit that "targeting" Hamas and killing civilians is also targeting "their [Palestinian] own people". Finally, someone else admitting a truth they don't normally want to admit out loud.

Israel and pro-Israel people have been hiding behind the narrative that "Israel has the right to defend themselves" when we point out that they are blowing up more children than Hamas terrorists. They say "Israel isn't targeting the civilians, they are targeting Hamas". However, when the scenario is reversed, you say "Israel wouldn't target their own people". Exactly! You aren't grasping what you're admitting by saying this. You're explicitly stating that Israel would be targeting their own people when they "target Hamas" if they were hiding within Israel and used the same tactics. However, when Israel "targets Hamas" and kills more Palestinian children, you say "Israel isn't targeting them".

Read this a few times and I promise you'll understand what you just confessed.

Wait,,, then is Gaza and the West bank Israel's own people and so they should not be a two party state and so Israel should occupy them and police Hamas as criminals of Israel?
 

Smoke

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Wait,,, then is Gaza and the West bank Israel's own people and so they should not be a two party state and so Israel should occupy them and police Hamas as criminals of Israel?
No. Penned said that it's obvious Israel "would not target their own people" when asked if Israel would implement the same tactics if Hamas was hiding in Israel. He knows that "targeting" Hamas inside Israel with bombs would mean Israel would be blowing up more of their own civilians than actual Hamas terrorists... For this reason, Penned says "Only Captain Obvious would point out that a country or people wouldn’t target their own people to get to the enemy [Hamas]."

So there is contradicting sentiments and standards here:

Real Life: Hamas hiding in Gaza. "Targets Hamas but blows up more children than actual Hamas terrorists.
Justification: "Israel isn't targeting children, they are targeting Hamas."

Hypothetical Scenario: Hamas hiding in Israel. Blows up more Israeli civilians than actual Hamas terrorists.
Objection: "Israel wouldn't target their own people to kill Hamas."

So it's NOT "targeting Palestinian children" when they "target Hamas"... but it WOULD be "targeting Israelis" if they "target Hamas" hiding inside Israel.... :unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure:
 

iamsoandso

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No. Penned said that it's obvious Israel "would not target their own people" when asked if Israel would implement the same tactics if Hamas was hiding in Israel. He knows that "targeting" Hamas inside Israel with bombs would mean Israel would be blowing up more of their own civilians than actual Hamas terrorists... For this reason, Penned says "Only Captain Obvious would point out that a country or people wouldn’t target their own people to get to the enemy [Hamas]."

So there is contradicting sentiments and standards here:

Real Life: Hamas hiding in Gaza. "Targets Hamas but blows up more children than actual Hamas terrorists.
Justification: "Israel isn't targeting children, they are targeting Hamas."

Hypothetical Scenario: Hamas hiding in Israel. Blows up more Israeli civilians than actual Hamas terrorists.
Objection: "Israel wouldn't target their own people to kill Hamas."

So it's NOT "targeting Palestinian children" when they "target Hamas"... but it WOULD be "targeting Israelis" if they "target Hamas" hiding inside Israel.... :unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure:

You should ask Hamas how they feel about the people in Gaza because they say "Hamas la yakun maeak",,,it means "not Hamas problem ,Hamas not be with you"(meaning Hamas not be with the people of Gaza)...
 
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You have never sat in a library and read primary sources so your opinion is uninformed and not useful for a fruitful discussion.

All you can do dismiss because you have no deep knowledge with which to even rebut my comment.

Like I stated a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Wow.

Guess it's a good thing that Jesus thanked the Father for revealing the truth unto little children. Don't think they spent a lot of time at libraries either.

Wow. Let's be civil, please.
 

Adelia

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Wow.

Guess it's a good thing that Jesus thanked the Father for revealing the truth unto little children. Don't think they spent a lot of time at libraries either.

Wow. Let's be civil, please.
Wow the subject matter was Winston Chrurchill. I am still looking for that name in scripture. Oh my, not there. I guess I may need the library.
 

Needevidence

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You're more confused than a termite in a yo-yo. smh

you need to read the facts from an independent source - he was a Zionist, high mason, racist and so on...

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/what-darkest-hour-doesnt-tell-you-about-winston-churchill/

But then you seem to agree with Israel prime minister / leaders and Zionist rabbis who quote the bible and say the Palestinians are the 'Amalekites' and all should be killed including men, women, children and all live stock.

Even Israeli doctors say Palestinians hospitals should be bombed - never ever heard a Dr ever say that - they dedicate their lives to saving lives.

So genocide goes on.....

By the way you won’t hear it on Fox news or main media - google is easy broaden your horizons
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Wow the subject matter was Winston Chrurchill. I am still looking for that name in scripture. Oh my, not there. I guess I may need the library.
The subject was comparing Hitler to Churchill and saying they were basically the same man. I said that comment was insane and it is.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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you need to read the facts from an independent source - he was a Zionist, high mason, racist and so on...
I thought he was Hitler? This thread gets more insane by the minute.

But then you seem to agree with Israel prime minister / leaders and Zionist rabbis who quote the bible and say the Palestinians are the 'Amalekites' and all should be killed including men, women, children and all live stock.
Don't put words in my mouth, thank you. I responded to a post where someone said God did not command the Amalekites to wipe our a nation, I quoted the verses that said He did. Had no bearing on the subject. Had we been living in OT times, I believe God would have ordered the same. But we are living in grace, lucky for a lot of people.

Even Israeli doctors say Palestinians hospitals should be bombed - never ever heard a Dr ever say that - they dedicate their lives to saving lives.

So genocide goes on.....
Propaganda, it isn't happening. BTW why are Arab states not helping their own displaced people?


By the way you won’t hear it on Fox news or main media - google is easy broaden your horizons
You know what happens when you assume? Don't!