Israel Declares War

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Gideon300

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Like Russia, the Middle East is showing restraint against the USA and rather than the doomsday clock how about praying the USA show some courage and stand up to this client state of Israel and pressure for a ceasefire and when things cool down bring the stakeholders to the table and no one stops till an agreement is reached.
A two state solution with both states having the right of self determination.

Hamas will never be eradicated through military means.
You really are either stupid or incredibly naive. I hope the latter. Do you not realise that a two state solution is unacceptable to Palestinians and most Arab nations? Do you not know what "From the river to the sea" means? Do you think "death to Israel" is an invitation to peace talks? The Palestinians (and there is in fact no such thing) have been offered their own state many times. They reject every offer. And this has been the case since the day Israel declared nationhood.
 

Gideon300

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I would agree, but the USA and other nations have the power to bring pressure to bear to solve the problem, South Africa and other hot areas demonstrate this.

Looking at the Russia-Ukraine war it seems the USA is more interested in funding proxy wars, sadly.
"Solve the problem". You are joking, of course. The solution is simple. Hamas surrenders and every tunnel destroyed. The world stops giving money to terrorists to use to arm themselves and build tunnels to hide in.
 

HeIsHere

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"Solve the problem". You are joking, of course. The solution is simple. Hamas surrenders and every tunnel destroyed. The world stops giving money to terrorists to use to arm themselves and build tunnels to hide in.
Sounds like a sure fire way to WWW III
 

ZNP

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Anyone who ignores God and His word when proposing a solution has committed the false balance fallacy. God is the major factor which you ignore at your peril. This applies to anyone who pretends that God giving the Land to Abraham and His descendants is not relevant. It also applies to anyone pretending to be Abraham's descendant while ignoring God's law. It also applies to anyone who would have the extreme arrogance to think they could divide God's land.
 

ZNP

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"Solve the problem". You are joking, of course. The solution is simple. Hamas surrenders and every tunnel destroyed. The world stops giving money to terrorists to use to arm themselves and build tunnels to hide in.
And why would a world that lies in the evil one do that? You are the one positing absurd and ineffective solutions.
 

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HeIsHere

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You really are either stupid or incredibly naive. I hope the latter. Do you not realise that a two state solution is unacceptable to Palestinians and most Arab nations? Do you not know what "From the river to the sea" means? Do you think "death to Israel" is an invitation to peace talks? The Palestinians (and there is in fact no such thing) have been offered their own state many times. They reject every offer. And this has been the case since the day Israel declared nationhood.
They agreed to the terms in 2016 it was the zionists that said no.
 

Cameron143

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ISIS is not Hamas, there is general consensus that Hamas cannot be eradicated.
There is no concensus on this. They can be eradicated. Their mindset is shared by other groups, so their mindset won't be eradicated. But Hamas can and should be eradicated.
 

HeIsHere

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There is no concensus on this. They can be eradicated. Their mindset is shared by other groups, so their mindset won't be eradicated. But Hamas can and should be eradicated.
I stated general consensus.
They will not be eradicated under this name or any other until a solution is implemented.
Generals and other military personnel who are familiar with hand to hand combat are not so dogmatic as you on this point so I will go with them.
 

Cameron143

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I stated general consensus.
They will not be eradicated under this name or any another until a solution is implemented.
Generals and other military personnel who are familiar with hand to hand combat are not so dogmatic as you on this point so I will go with them.
We've already seen it done. And what military leaders say this? The woke ones? Please. Only someone with an agenda would say this. Only someone who is operating outside reality actually believes this. I know from your posts you possess critical thinking skills.
 

Nehemiah6

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But Hamas can and should be eradicated.
Correct. When radical Muslims chose terrorism (calling it Jihad or Holy War) against "the infidels" they also chose MUSLIM MARTYRDOM, so that they would be rewarded in paradise. Therefore all that Israel needs to do is drop tons of leaflets in Arabic in every terrorist stronghold saying

"SINCE YOU WANT MARTYRDOM, YOU WILL HAVE IT. WE WILL TAKE NO PRISONERS".

Which means exactly what it says.

These terrorists (not just Hamas but many other groups) have been going around the world killing, and maiming, and butchering innocents for years, and nobody has put them on serious notice. It is about time Israel does so and means it. And if Biden calls Netanyahu, he should be told in no uncertain terms that this is about the survival of Israel and the Jews in Israel. Nothing else.
 

HeIsHere

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We've already seen it done. And what military leaders say this? The woke ones? Please. Only someone with an agenda would say this. Only someone who is operating outside reality actually believes this. I know from your posts you possess critical thinking skills.
You think the Israelis soldiers (no USA soldiers) can win a war in hand to hand combat with Hamas?

I am asking sincerely.

I only listen to woke people for the entertainment value btw...LOL
 

HeIsHere

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You misunderstand. It's a matter of priority for me. I have no problem with guilty people being held accountable. I believe they should be. I believe you take care of the problem first.
When injustice prevails, there is always great wickedness. For the natural man, it is only the fear of sure and certain justice that will refrain evil. He has no fear of God.
I do not disagree with this in principle.

However, I think the main point @Smoke @Moses_Young and a few others are making is that the evidence of evil points in both directions and the right wing zionist government has their portion of evil in all of this from the get go.

To deny this reality can only indicate some type of 1984 mass delusion that has been visited upon people's minds.
 

Cameron143

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You think the Israelis soldiers (no USA soldiers) can win a war in hand to hand combat with Hamas?

I am asking sincerely.

I only listen to woke people for the entertainment value btw...LOL
The Israeli army is every bit as capable as the US military and is much better prepared.
 

Cameron143

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I do not disagree with this in principle.

However, I think the main point @Smoke @Moses_Young and a few others are making is that the evidence of evil points in both directions and the right wing zionist government has their portion of evil in all of this from the get go.

To deny this reality can only indicate some type of 1984 mass delusion that has been visited upon people's minds.
I don't deny what you say. For me, it's irrelevant to the solution.