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You don't even make sense. So a Dr is 'speculative' for diagnosing any illness with outright signs of a condition. What's your proof that new covid patients are vaxxed? I just read an statement by Kaiser Family Foundation stating less than 1% of fully vaxxed have breakthrough infections and they are not life-threatening.
I'm debating reporting you for 'speculating' I intentionally wrote something that I knew was a falsehood. This friend's son has severe covid symptoms and unless you can prove this to be false in any way, you are intentionally presumptuous and rude.
You have wrongly interpreted my response, that's clearly not what my response said. I was simply saying that it is speculative to say that this youngster would NOT have gotten Covid-19 if he was injected with the so-called vaccine. People get Covid-19 whether before or after they're injected with the so-called vaccine. However, once he is injected with the so-called vaccine, he will have Covid-19 alive inside of him for the rest of his life.
 

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All of these Drs are literally putting their livelihoods and reputations on the line. They are now talking about pulling Drs who speak out against the vaccine licenses to practice medicine.

They have nothing to gain by informing people about the deadly and debilitating effects of this gene therapy.

And then there’s people like Ex Pfizer science CEO, Dr Michael Yeadon, who have said things like “ No one who got the vaccine can escape death now”. His estimate was absolute maximum 3 years, but he thought much sooner.

Do I believe him?
I certainly don’t want to. But the insane propaganda push to vaccinate EVERYONE, by every quarter of the government, entertainment industry, and media, with a never before tried vaccine, for an illness with an overall 99.7% survival rate, mixed with the literal fascist censorship we are witnessing, drives me to trust these Drs that have nothing to gain by saying what they are saying.
1.) Michael Yeadon was not a CEO, nor was he even VP of Pfizer as many people claim... he was VP of Pfizer’s allergy and respiratory research (huge distinction).
2.) Michael Yeadon was not with the company when the vaccine was created. So how does he estimate the maximum of 3 years for people who took the vaccine?
3.) Michael Yeadon is on record as saying some insanely untrue things like "the likelihood of someone asymptomatic with covid spreading the virus is somewhere between rare to impossible."

Bringing him up as some sort of credible scientist would be as unwise as thinking Dr. Fauci is a credible scientist.
 

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1.) Michael Yeadon was not a CEO, nor was he even VP of Pfizer as many people claim... he was VP of Pfizer’s allergy and respiratory research (huge distinction).
2.) Michael Yeadon was not with the company when the vaccine was created. So how does he estimate the maximum of 3 years for people who took the vaccine?
3.) Michael Yeadon is on record as saying some insanely untrue things like "the likelihood of someone asymptomatic with covid spreading the virus is somewhere between rare to impossible."

Bringing him up as some sort of credible scientist would be as unwise as thinking Dr. Fauci is a credible scientist.
Sorry. Chief Science Officer.
Who the heck are you to say he’s wrong about asymptotic spread?

I’ll post a bunch of his videos and people can decide for themselves:

https://www.brighteon.com/e1caeb15-7d67-4ba0-9af9-02e8df3d7f98
 

Smoke

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former Pfizer Vice President and Chief of Science, Dr. Michael Yeadon

https://www.brighteon.com/6eb09adb-4795-4ad8-84eb-bfb52a4caa4a
I'm confused by this... so you know he wasn't the CEO of Pfizer and ignore the fact he was VP of a department in Pfizer as opposed to VP of Pfizer? You also ignore the fact he wasn't with the company during the creation of the vaccine and any estimate of how long he expects people who have taken the Pfizer vaccine will live is based on literally nothing. K...
 

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PennEd

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I'm confused by this... so you know he wasn't the CEO of Pfizer and ignore the fact he was VP of a department in Pfizer as opposed to VP of Pfizer? You also ignore the fact he wasn't with the company during the creation of the vaccine and any estimate of how long he expects people who have taken the Pfizer vaccine will live is based on literally nothing. K...
You didn’t watch any of the videos.

You responded before you could have watched a single one.

You do not want to get both sides of the discussion. Fine.

Don’t talk about me or him when you choose to remain ignorant.

Mmmk?
 

PennEd

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This is sort of how the adversary works. He uses truth and mixes it with lies. He isn't always spewing misinformation, but when he does, it is toxic and potentially damaging to people.
Again. Who the heck are YOU to say he’s spewing misinformation?
 

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This is sort of how the adversary works. He uses truth and mixes it with lies. He isn't always spewing misinformation, but when he does, it is toxic and potentially damaging to people.
You are following the leaders and lies of this world. And guess who is the god of this world?

The adversary. Satan.
 

Smoke

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You didn’t watch any of the videos.

You responded before you could have watched a single one.

You do not want to get both sides of the discussion. Fine.

Don’t talk about me or him when you choose to remain ignorant.

Mmmk?
How would I know that at 6:10 he starts listing his credentials and he specifically states he was VP of the department I mentioned to you? I'm still listening to it even...

You can keep assuming things and name calling, or you can actually address the fact he isn't a CEO, he wasn't with the company during the creation of the vaccine, and his estimation of the life expectancy of people who have taken the vaccine is baseless. Please correct any information I have that is incorrect.
 

PennEd

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How would I know that at 6:10 he starts listing his credentials and he specifically states he was VP of the department I mentioned to you? I'm still listening to it even...

You can keep assuming things and name calling, or you can actually address the fact he isn't a CEO, he wasn't with the company during the creation of the vaccine, and his estimation of the life expectancy of people who have taken the vaccine is baseless. Please correct any information I have that is incorrect.
The video is 32 minutes dude!

You spent 5 seconds skimming through to try and discredit him.
What does that make you?
 

Smoke

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Again. Who the heck are YOU to say he’s spewing misinformation?
Someone that knows how to fact check the things he says. As I already mentioned, one of the many things he is 100% incorrect on is his declaration of someone who is asymptomatic with covid has somewhere between a "rare" and "impossible" chance of spreading the virus.

You can skim over this like you did his credentials or how he formulated his opinion of the life expectancy of people who have taken the Pfizer vaccine, or you can have an objective and fruitful dialogue about it. Maybe we can both learn something...
 

PennEd

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Someone that knows how to fact check the things he says. As I already mentioned, one of the many things he is 100% incorrect on is his declaration of someone who is asymptomatic with covid has somewhere between a "rare" and "impossible" chance of spreading the virus.

You can skim over this like you did his credentials or how he formulated his opinion of the life expectancy of people who have taken the Pfizer vaccine, or you can have an objective and fruitful dialogue about it. Maybe we can both learn something...
Ah!

A fact checker you are. Hahaha!

What source did you use?

No no . Let me guess!
 

Smoke

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The video is 32 minutes dude!

You spent 5 seconds skimming through to try and discredit him.
What does that make you?
Well, if you reread our discussion, I was actually discrediting YOU... The only thing I've said to discredit him is his false claim that it's rare/impossible for someone who is asymptomatic with covid to spread the virus.

You said he was CEO of Pfizer, he wasn't... You quote him as saying people who took the vaccine will be dying within 3 years, yet provide no context as to how he came to that conclusion... Perhaps if he was the active CEO of Pfizer at the time the vaccine was created, it would carry a lot more weight... but he wasn't even with the company at the time.
 

PennEd

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As I already mentioned, one of the many things he is 100% incorrect on is his declaration of someone who is asymptomatic with covid has somewhere between a "rare" and "impossible" chance of spreading the virus.
Says who!? You!?

Again. Who the heck are you to question whether this guys is right?

Besides all that, if you go to my original post, I said I would trust him over any msm source. But that doesn’t mean I know he’s right in saying all vaccinated are going to die.
 

PennEd

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The one you gave me.... =/ He clearly states he isn't what you said he is...
I already said I was sorry about mislabeling his title.

I wrote from memory. Doesn’t change one other fact.