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Aidan1

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Ask the doctors
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many doctors from all over the world have said that ivermectin and hydroxy are effective treatments, just like having a healthy immune system.

you just do not want to listen to them....
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Of course I dont trust them. Ask the doctors working on icu.
Did those doctors also mention the sideeffects if you give millions healthy people as prevent this medicaments?
 
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Aidan1 said:
Ask the doctors


Of course I dont trust them. Ask the doctors working on icu.
Did those doctors also mention the sideeffects if you give millions healthy people as prevent this medicaments?
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From what I've heard, hospital doctors don't try the alternative meds until the person is basically at the end of the line. They need to be administered at the onset of sickness.
And it's not given to healthy folks as a preventative. It's given as soon as they find out they're sick with Covid.

Funny that you don't mind the side effects from the jab affecting hundreds of thousands of people but you're worried about the possible side effects from alternative medications for Covid.

Has anyone heard of people taking, say, ivermevtin, for Covid and having a bad side effect?
 
Lucy-Pevensie

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Aidan1 said:
Ask the doctors


Of course I dont trust them. Ask the doctors working on icu.
Did those doctors also mention the sideeffects if you give millions healthy people as prevent this medicaments?
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You exaggerate the possible side effects of ivermectin. And downplay the possible side effects of the vaccines.
Ivermectin has been used to treat human beings for years.
The vaccines are too new for anyone to know the long-term side effects.

Ivermectin could help people in ICU's recover, thus taking pressure off health services.
Jabs can't treat anyone who is already sick & in intensive care. In that respect a vaccine is worthless.
 
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Lucy-Pevensie said:
You exaggerate the possible side effects of ivermectin.
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This is what the corrupted medical establishment has been doing ever since January 2020. And once respected medical journals like The Lancet and Nature have also been a part of this conspiracy to (1) sabotage, (2) misrepresent, (3) disrespect, (4) mock, (5) mislead and (6) block the general public from easy access at pharmacies to ALL CHEAP AND EFFECTIVE anti-viral remedies, which worked for coronavirus and were proven to be effective.

This was blatant medical fraud and a violation of their Hippocratic Oath. And this one fact alone proves that there was a COVID Conspiracy to kill as many as possible, and maim the rest. Absolutely no one should have had to be hospitalized, go to ICUs, go on ventilators, and suffer intubations (all designed to kill). The general public has trusted medical personnel for ages, and this was a serious breach of trust. And sadly absolutely no one can be locked up or executed for medical murder since January 2020. Add to this the lethal and toxic injections which have been falsely labeled as "vaccines" and what you have is a worldwide Nazi experiment for which the Nazis were hanged. And these bogus vaccines are now being "mandated" by all the demons controlling the narrative.

The good news is that the army and police forces in Austria have said that they will not enforce any wicked mandate which violates human rights and human dignity. So it is about time that all army and police forces worldwide arrest and execute the criminals who are committing genocide and getting away with it.
 
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The politicians and their comrades will begin tightening up the thumbscrews. Having made sure to have allies in the strategic positions in advance, it'll only be a matter of time. They've been planning this for a long time. As I've been saying, they have us by the short and curlies.
 
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All the MSM panic over Intensive Care Units is nothing new. For years, every flu season has seen the same exaggerated
reporting. Be afraid :eek::eek::eek:!!!

See the BBC News item from 2010 below:

Intensive care 'disaster' warning
Published
9 October 2010

"Experts believe there will not be more intensive care beds as health budgets shrink "

"The relatively low number of intensive care beds in UK hospitals means it is poorly prepared for major disasters,
a report in the Lancet says.
Critical care experts say there may be as few as 3.5 intensive care beds per 100,000 people in the UK, compared
with more than 24 per 100,000 in Germany.
The experts from Canada also said demand for intensive care was likely to rise with an ageing population."

"Dr Gordon Rubenfeld, from Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre in Toronto, said that huge investment would be needed to keep pace with the growing demand for intensive care services.
One figure suggests that by 2030, the incidence of acute lung injury will have risen 50%, driven by pneumonia cases in older people.
Dr Rubenfeld analysed the availability of critical care beds in various countries, and while conceding that the figure of 3.5 per 100,000 might under-represent the true position, he concluded that, at present levels, the UK would not be in a good position to deal with the extra demands of a disaster."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11503873

It goes on, blah blah blah.
And yet when the Covid panic was manufactured in 2021 & the government spent all that money on extra hospitals,
they sat empty. Because the ICU's were NOT overwhelmed. Instead Hospitals were so underwhelmed, the staff were
making tik-tok dance videos. Public healthcare has become a bit of an idol.
















https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11503873
 
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Saw a report where chances of infestion without Pfizer vax is 4.3%, without, only 3%
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
This is what the corrupted medical establishment has been doing ever since January 2020. And once respected medical journals like The Lancet and Nature have also been a part of this conspiracy to (1) sabotage, (2) misrepresent, (3) disrespect, (4) mock, (5) mislead and (6) block the general public from easy access at pharmacies to ALL CHEAP AND EFFECTIVE anti-viral remedies, which worked for coronavirus and were proven to be effective.

This was blatant medical fraud and a violation of their Hippocratic Oath. And this one fact alone proves that there was a COVID Conspiracy to kill as many as possible, and maim the rest. Absolutely no one should have had to be hospitalized, go to ICUs, go on ventilators, and suffer intubations (all designed to kill). The general public has trusted medical personnel for ages, and this was a serious breach of trust. And sadly absolutely no one can be locked up or executed for medical murder since January 2020. Add to this the lethal and toxic injections which have been falsely labeled as "vaccines" and what you have is a worldwide Nazi experiment for which the Nazis were hanged. And these bogus vaccines are now being "mandated" by all the demons controlling the narrative.

The good news is that the army and police forces in Austria have said that they will not enforce any wicked mandate which violates human rights and human dignity. So it is about time that all army and police forces worldwide arrest and execute the criminals who are committing genocide and getting away with it.
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I have a doctor in my family with whom I would like to share this information. Would you mind sharing your sources, and specifically the data that supports how well the anti-viral medicines work. I'm sure that if I go to her with only what someone has said, she will try to shoot me down.

Thanks, I really would appreciate it!!
 
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PennEd said:
UPDATED. 'If you get the Pfizer vax, you're more likely to get COVID': Industry analyst flags FDA study

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/i...-likely-to-get-covid-insider-leaks-fda-study/
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Before I share, I want everyone to know that I am saved through the power of what Jesus did on the cross for me and His bodily resurrection three days later! I am a conservative evangelical who has been preaching to and training Christians for over 45years. I believe, as I said in the crucifixion, the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ for my sins and the sins of every person in the world! I believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God, and I do my best to love the Lord my God with all my heart and demonstrate the love of my God to every person I meet each day. I also believe that Jesus and the example He set for us, as given to us in His word, should be the filter through which we think, act and say every day! In addition, let me add that I am not perfect, that I still sin and make mistakes each day, but the grace of God, through Jesus, is continuously poured out on me every day.

I say all that because I want people to know that as I may disagree with them on specific issues, we are all still a part of the body of Christ, called by Jesus to be a representative of Jesus daily. As I asked earlier for the data which would help me back up the story about COVID as I see my family member today who is a medical doctor at one of the most respected hospitals in the world. As soon as I made the post, I found a review of this same article from LifeSite News. I hope everyone will take the time to read the entire article and then compare actual sources for credibility, honesty, and truth.

Here is the link:
https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...s-it-less-likely-for-someone-to-get-covid-19/

I'm searching for honest and Christ-like feedback on this review of the article in LifeSite news. No agenda, just Godly dialogue.
 
Nehemiah6

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Grandaddynanny said:
I'm searching for honest and Christ-like feedback on this review of the article in LifeSite news. No agenda, just Godly dialogue.
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A major part of the problem today is the attacks and lies from the Left and the medical establishment to anything that exposes their false narrative. FDA, CDC, NIH, NIAID, WHO etc are all trying to protect themselves and the pharmaceutical industry by putting out false information and countering true information. You cannot trust the governments, the public health agencies, or the medical establishment any longer. They all have been lying to the public daily about everything. If you want scientific truth, kindly go to Principia Scientific or Health Impact News or Children's Health Defense, and you will see dozens of articles and research that exposes the harmful vaccines.

Do the vaccines make you more susceptible to infection by coronavirus, or any other virus? Yes. Because the spike proteins from the "vaccines" destroy the immune system.

New Swedish Study Shows Vaccine Spike Protein Dramatically Impairs Cell DNA Damage Repair
https://covid19reporter.com/new-swe...-dramatically-impairs-cell-dna-damage-repair/
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SARS–CoV–2 Spike Impairs DNA Damage Repair and Inhibits V(D)J Recombination In Vitro
"Here, by using an in vitro cell line, we report that the SARS–CoV–2 spike protein significantly inhibits DNA damage repair, which is required for effective V(D)J recombination in adaptive immunity."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8538446/
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THE NOVEL CORONAVIRUS’ SPIKE PROTEIN PLAYS ADDITIONAL KEY ROLE IN ILLNESS
"Salk researchers and collaborators show how the protein damages cells, confirming COVID-19 as a primarily vascular disease"
https://www.salk.edu/news-release/t...protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/
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In view of all this, why are Western governments pushing these bogus vaccines onto the public, and want to start injecting babies, children, and everyone else?
 
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Grandaddynanny said:
Before I share, I want everyone to know that I am saved through the power of what Jesus did on the cross for me and His bodily resurrection three days later! I am a conservative evangelical who has been preaching to and training Christians for over 45years. I believe, as I said in the crucifixion, the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ for my sins and the sins of every person in the world! I believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God, and I do my best to love the Lord my God with all my heart and demonstrate the love of my God to every person I meet each day. I also believe that Jesus and the example He set for us, as given to us in His word, should be the filter through which we think, act and say every day! In addition, let me add that I am not perfect, that I still sin and make mistakes each day, but the grace of God, through Jesus, is continuously poured out on me every day.

I say all that because I want people to know that as I may disagree with them on specific issues, we are all still a part of the body of Christ, called by Jesus to be a representative of Jesus daily. As I asked earlier for the data which would help me back up the story about COVID as I see my family member today who is a medical doctor at one of the most respected hospitals in the world. As soon as I made the post, I found a review of this same article from LifeSite News. I hope everyone will take the time to read the entire article and then compare actual sources for credibility, honesty, and truth.

Here is the link:
https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...s-it-less-likely-for-someone-to-get-covid-19/

I'm searching for honest and Christ-like feedback on this review of the article in LifeSite news. No agenda, just Godly dialogue.
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So here’s the thing. EVERYTHING about this virus and gene therapy is political.

I just scanned the first 20 or so articles from the website you listed, and virtually EVERY one went against every article that spoke negatively about the vaccine.

This tells me they are NOT at all impartial in these matters.
 
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Neil Oliver: "I don't believe the people of Great Britain would tolerate mandated vaccines."
I do hope he is right about this.

 
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Lucy-Pevensie said:
You exaggerate the possible side effects of ivermectin. And downplay the possible side effects of the vaccines.
Ivermectin has been used to treat human beings for years.
The vaccines are too new for anyone to know the long-term side effects.

Ivermectin could help people in ICU's recover, thus taking pressure off health services.
Jabs can't treat anyone who is already sick & in intensive care. In that respect a vaccine is worthless.
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Ivermectin, is used for what, before Corona cames? Animals!
There are many studies (31)
https://www.dw.com/de/mit-dem-wurmmittel-ivermectin-gegen-corona/a-59857517
with for the human not toxic dosis which shows till yet that there is no different to people which used placebo and common treatment
Ivermectin needs a high dose which is toxic.

So for what reason should we use a medicament which helpes in the lab, but not in the reality?
This why this medicament is in europe not used/allowed for covid treatment.

That a vaccine is not working till our imunesystem has not build antibodys is clear.

Some of you can german language, if i am not wrong.
 
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Aidan1 said:
Ivermectin, is used for what, before Corona cames? Animals!
There are many studies (31)
https://www.dw.com/de/mit-dem-wurmmittel-ivermectin-gegen-corona/a-59857517
with for the human not toxic dosis which shows till yet that there is no different to people which used placebo and common treatment
Ivermectin needs a high dose which is toxic.

So for what reason should we use a medicament which helpes in the lab, but not in the reality?
This why this medicament is in europe not used/allowed for covid treatment.

That a vaccine is not working till our imunesystem has not build antibodys is clear.

Some of you can german language, if i am not wrong.
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I find it hard to believe you are truly in the medical field with this highly ignorant statement.

Ivermectin has been used in humans for decades.
 
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