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Aidan1

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Truth vs Lies
Science vs science fiction
The Word vs the flood out of the mouth of the Dragon
Are you able to answer to an post in an understandable way?
If you only believe what pleases you, then its your buiseness, but dont spread unproofed claimes and sell them as truth. Please.
 

Aidan1

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<<<Btw the vaccine is only going in the muscles cells near the injection aerea.>>>

That particular bit of propaganda has been roundly and comprehensively debunked in the most alarming and devastating manner. Only the blindly pro-jab are continuing to push it.
If you dont know how vaccine works ask people who knows it. Instead of blaming everything wrong which is not fit with your view.
 

ZNP

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Are you able to answer to an post in an understandable way?
Good point, let's lay out the conspiracy theory that they are unwilling to fully spell out.

First you would have to believe that the pandemic would be a man made virus, a theory that was completely discredited 18 months ago, but has since been proven to be true. So, OK, I guess we can proceed.

Second, you would have to believe that the US would work together with China and other world leaders to create this virus. A theory which was completely debunked by Fauci in his testimony before the Senate hearing committee before the evidence was released that proved this was in fact true. So, OK, I guess we can continue to proceed.

Third, the whole world would use this man made virus as an excuse to shut down the world's economy. Now of course we saw that the world did in fact shut down the world's economy, and yes there is a lot of evidence that the numbers killed and harmed by this virus were inflated purposefully to justify the lockdown. Now why would the most powerful people, the elites, the "city of Davos" want to shut down the economy? That is actually a little misleading, some industries were crushed, particularly small businesses, whereas other businesses had a banner year (Amazon, Zoom, etc). So why try to crush the middle class other than the fact that the middle class is the backbone of democracy. I mean if that were in fact what they were doing we would see evidence of totalitarian dictates. A dictator is completely contradictory to the US constitution, they would have to ignore the US constitution and begin dictating to Americans what they can and cannot do, where they can and cannot go, censor political speech, create black lists, get people fired, banned, etc. So, OK, I guess we have seen that so we can continue to proceed with this really bizarre conspiracy theory.

Fourth, so the idea is that these elites, the 1%, the people who profited from the mortgage meltdown and weren't prosecuted. You would have to believe that they don't care about you and only care about their own lives. Only then could you actually believe they would carry out the published strategic plans for world domination by the FreeMasons. The strategy is simple, since they are 1% they don't fight, instead they instigate 45% of the people to fight the other 45% of the people. For example they might instigate a race war between whites and all others in the US. They might empty jails and pay felons to cause chaos in the inner cities. They might promote defunding the police to help with this chaos. Another great war is to promote Muslims to fight Jews (backed by the US). Let them kill each other. Obviously you need to give the Muslims some help, leave billions of dollars of weaponry for them, give them a great victory to boost their ego, you know, things like that. OK, so we have seen all that play out as well, especially with what took place in Afghanistan. The beauty of this is they can blame it all on a president with dementia!

Fifth, now in this crazy plan you have the "vaccine", the crown jewel. You make the vaccine with something that can be stimulated by 5g radiation to absorb oxygen, and have this accumulate in your organs. You mandate that the US military all get vaccinated, and then you can easily defeat the US military leaving them only one option left (nuclear option). The US and China wipe each other out, Muslims and Jews wipe each other out, and now you have an open door for "the man of lawlessness" to become head of a reformed Roman empire and once again rule the world. True, you had to kill billions to achieve this, but hey, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs as Stalin once said.
 

DavidTree

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Are you able to answer to an post in an understandable way?
If you only believe what pleases you, then its your buiseness, but dont spread unproofed claimes and sell them as truth. Please.
Can you understand this - Repent, turn to God and stop spreading unfounded claims about the vaxx as if they are truth.
 

Aidan1

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Good point, let's lay out the conspiracy theory that they are unwilling to fully spell out.

First you would have to believe that the pandemic would be a man made virus, a theory that was completely discredited 18 months ago, but has since been proven to be true. So, OK, I guess we can proceed.

Second, you would have to believe that the US would work together with China and other world leaders to create this virus. A theory which was completely debunked by Fauci in his testimony before the Senate hearing committee before the evidence was released that proved this was in fact true. So, OK, I guess we can continue to proceed.

Third, the whole world would use this man made virus as an excuse to shut down the world's economy. Now of course we saw that the world did in fact shut down the world's economy, and yes there is a lot of evidence that the numbers killed and harmed by this virus were inflated purposefully to justify the lockdown. Now why would the most powerful people, the elites, the "city of Davos" want to shut down the economy? That is actually a little misleading, some industries were crushed, particularly small businesses, whereas other businesses had a banner year (Amazon, Zoom, etc). So why try to crush the middle class other than the fact that the middle class is the backbone of democracy. I mean if that were in fact what they were doing we would see evidence of totalitarian dictates. A dictator is completely contradictory to the US constitution, they would have to ignore the US constitution and begin dictating to Americans what they can and cannot do, where they can and cannot go, censor political speech, create black lists, get people fired, banned, etc. So, OK, I guess we have seen that so we can continue to proceed with this really bizarre conspiracy theory.

Fourth, so the idea is that these elites, the 1%, the people who profited from the mortgage meltdown and weren't prosecuted. You would have to believe that they don't care about you and only care about their own lives. Only then could you actually believe they would carry out the published strategic plans for world domination by the FreeMasons. The strategy is simple, since they are 1% they don't fight, instead they instigate 45% of the people to fight the other 45% of the people. For example they might instigate a race war between whites and all others in the US. They might empty jails and pay felons to cause chaos in the inner cities. They might promote defunding the police to help with this chaos. Another great war is to promote Muslims to fight Jews (backed by the US). Let them kill each other. Obviously you need to give the Muslims some help, leave billions of dollars of weaponry for them, give them a great victory to boost their ego, you know, things like that. OK, so we have seen all that play out as well, especially with what took place in Afghanistan. The beauty of this is they can blame it all on a president with dementia!

Fifth, now in this crazy plan you have the "vaccine", the crown jewel. You make the vaccine with something that can be stimulated by 5g radiation to absorb oxygen, and have this accumulate in your organs. You mandate that the US military all get vaccinated, and then you can easily defeat the US military leaving them only one option left (nuclear option). The US and China wipe each other out, Muslims and Jews wipe each other out, and now you have an open door for "the man of lawlessness" to become head of a reformed Roman empire and once again rule the world. True, you had to kill billions to achieve this, but hey, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs as Stalin once said.
Strong tobacco! Need some time to think over.
 

DavidTree

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Yes, thank you. This is understandable.
Aidan1 - I like you, i am not against you. We are on opposite sides of the vaxx Agenda.
Please review this:

The statement below (A) is what many people truly believe from their heart.

(A) - "The garbage that has been spread about vaccinations is responsible for the hospitalization and deaths in this area. I wonder how many people will get sick and/or die from the gross misinformation that has been spread by people like the antivaxers on this and other sites."

Statement (B) is factual and we all agree it is factual as it has been repeatedly proven and is promoted everyday.

(B) Government, the Media, Big Pharma and Hollywood all say: 'Do the world and yourself a favor and get the Covid vaccine."
There are Christian leaders saying - "Love thy neighbor as thyself and get the Covid vaccine...."

Statement (C) somehow becomes offensive to those who adhere to and believe in statements A & B.

(C) Do us and the world a favor, let us know after the third jabb how you are doing. They say five is the ticket.

All the people who heard this, even the tax collectors, acknowledged God’s justice. For they had received the baptism of John.
But the Pharisees and experts in the law rejected God’s purpose for themselves, because they had not been baptized by John.
Jesus said to them:
“To what, then, can I compare the men of this generation? What are they like?
They are like children sitting in the marketplace and calling out to one another:
‘We played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge, and you did not weep.’

For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon!’
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look at this glutton and drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’
But wisdom is vindicated by all her children.” - Luke 7: 29-35
 

dave_in_KWC

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So specifically, this research is addressing the issue of the impact of vaccines for respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), dengue virus and measles. It is in extrapolating that this means that there could be concerns for C 19 vaccines, from my quick browse of the article I do not see it making a distinction between mRNA vaccines in the other types vaccines. This kind of extrapolation is dangerous and is not a double blind scientific research study.

The true point of this article, which I agree with, is that there should be more disclosure of the potential difficulties associated with the C 19 vaccines. I agree with this. I have taken the first Pfizer with no ill affects. My wife just took the second one and had some minor flu like symptoms. We have researched the issues with C-19 vaccines exhaustively. We've prayed and sought God as to what to do and believe we should take the same. We are not encouraging others to take the vaccine or not. This is a matter of conscience and personal decision. We do not support the deterioration of rights that should be unalienable in terms of making decision. We do not support the idea of people being fired if they will not take the vaccine. As a health professional under the Ontario health act, I see clients in my home office. I believe it is my duty to responsibly care for others especially the elderly or those who are immunocompromised by not unnecessarily spreading or infected acting as with any kind of disease!
So PennEd, what do you disagree about what I said?
 

dave_in_KWC

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Fact is that the US doesn't have highest compliance rate, frankly, and even if it were true that the vaccines he made provision for were out there, you still have to get stiff-necked ppl to take them! That isn't happening in some areas of the US!
You may disagree, but it is all factual what I'm saying and if the US doesn't smarten up and this goes for other 1st world nations, we are going to get a 4th wave that will be nasty, potentially. Who will THAT be on?
 

DavidTree

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So specifically, this research is addressing the issue of the impact of vaccines for respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), dengue virus and measles. It is in extrapolating that this means that there could be concerns for C 19 vaccines, from my quick browse of the article I do not see it making a distinction between mRNA vaccines in the other types vaccines. This kind of extrapolation is dangerous and is not a double blind scientific research study.

The true point of this article, which I agree with, is that there should be more disclosure of the potential difficulties associated with the C 19 vaccines. I agree with this. I have taken the first Pfizer with no ill affects. My wife just took the second one and had some minor flu like symptoms. We have researched the issues with C-19 vaccines exhaustively. We've prayed and sought God as to what to do and believe we should take the same. We are not encouraging others to take the vaccine or not. This is a matter of conscience and personal decision. We do not support the deterioration of rights that should be unalienable in terms of making decision. We do not support the idea of people being fired if they will not take the vaccine. As a health professional under the Ontario health act, I see clients in my home office. I believe it is my duty to responsibly care for others especially the elderly or those who are immunocompromised by not unnecessarily spreading or infected acting as with any kind of disease!
Please keep us informed to you and your wife's health as time goes by. It can save lives by having the right information and nothing better then from those who have signed off on the experiment.
I hope it works out for your family. I am healthy enough to not need the jabb but am concerned of the push to make it mandatory.
The fact that it is an experiment means that all who partake are being experimented on without any protection as you must sign a waiver.
My heart goes out to the healthy children who are now being forced into the experiment.
I have seen the Mothers crying for their children who were once healthy but are no more - from the experiment.
Even worse, those who were once healthy and are now dead from the experiment.
Two friends of mine told me they took the jabb and that they will not take another one.
Why would Government and National Media prohibit and cancel our First Amendment Protection against many Doctors, Nurses, Scientists, Mothers, Fathers and Others who who have been showing the harmful and even deadly outcomes from the experiment?
 
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Please keep us informed to you and your wife's health as time goes by. It can save lives by having the right information and nothing better then from those who have signed off on the experiment.
I hope it works out for your family. I am healthy enough to not need the jabb but am concerned of the push to make it mandatory.
The fact that it is an experiment means that all who partake are being experimented on without any protection as you must sign a waiver.
My heart goes out to the healthy children who are now being forced into the experiment.
I have seen the Mothers crying for their children who were once healthy but are no more - from the experiment.
Even worse, those who were once healthy and are now dead from the experiment.
Two friends of mine told me they took the jabb and that they will not take another one.
Why would Government and National Media prohibit and cancel our First Amendment Protection against many Doctors, Nurses, Scientists, Mothers, Fathers and Others who who have been showing the harmful and even deadly outcomes from the experiment?

Why, you ask? Oh, how silly of you.

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rayzor

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  1. James 5:14 any sick?Call for elders
  2. anoint him with oil
  3. In the name of god
  4. prayer & faith
  5. shall & save him
  6. if he has committed sin he shall be forgiven