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ZNP

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Sun Tzu, do not underestimate your opponent. They knew that this movement would strengthen Trump politically. If they were panicked before then this move has nothing to do with trying to help them win an election, the only way you could conclude that is if you think they are stupid. Therefore, there must be a different motive. It could be to plant evidence, it could be some other plan designed to stop Trump from running. The thief comes not but to kill, steal and destroy. If you think that the present administration is trying to destroy America and that they stole the last election then beware, they are cornered and will go out just like Scarface.
 
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kaylagrl

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Agree ...mostly. I dont think raids on opposition party candidates will play out well for dems and will especially go bad for reps. The reason is media bias.

I agree that DT should not run again. Not that he is a bad president. He actually did pretty good. Its bad strategically. The Dems are steady digging dirt on him and are already running against him. To throw a wrench in the game maybe Someone else should run. Like Governor DeSantis and maybe he should choose a moderate VP that everyone likes. Maybe even really rip the play book up and pick someone like Tulsey Gabbard. I dont know who would be a good VP pick.
Dems hate Gabbard and they will do the same to DeSantis and anyone else who wins. They are evil and they need someone who has the stones to stand up to them. But at this point, not even sure if ol' Trump has it in him. We the people better back him 110 percent. I know about three things I would do if I won. But I wasn't born American so I'm not sure if they are legal. I would stack the court, I would decimate the FBI,IRS and DOJ. Just for openers.
 
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kaylagrl

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As a start. Then on to Congress ,SCOTUS,Pence,Fauci, etc....

Obama militarized our police forces across the nation over his 8 year stay in our White House.

A weaponized FBI making entry into a former presidents private home is unprecedented.

Ahh yes, I would fire Fauci and put Rand Paul on the case. Find what that little evil dude was really up to and send him up the creek if guilty.
 

Dirtman

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Dems hate Gabbard and they will do the same to DeSantis and anyone else who wins. They are evil and they need someone who has the stones to stand up to them. But at this point, not even sure if ol' Trump has it in him. We the people better back him 110 percent. I know about three things I would do if I won. But I wasn't born American so I'm not sure if they are legal. I would stack the court, I would decimate the FBI,IRS and DOJ. Just for openers.
I would disband all the alphabet bureaucracies. Leave the UN, kick them out of country, put a 100 year moratorium on immigration, send all non citizens back to their land of origins. Declare war on Mexico. Cap congress and senate salaries at median income for thier districts. Disallow law makers to trade in the stock market, bring every American world wide home, if they refuse expatriate them, make gun law and safety mandatory in school. Make ROTC, national Guard or military service mandatory for every one born after 1980. And much much more
 

shittim

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Sun Tzu, do not underestimate your opponent. They knew that this movement would strengthen Trump politically. If they were panicked before then this move has nothing to do with trying to help them win an election, the only way you could conclude that is if you think they are stupid. Therefore, there must be a different motive. It could be to plant evidence, it could be some other plan designed to stop Trump from running. The thief comes not but to kill, steal and destroy. If you think that the present administration is trying to destroy America and that they stole the last election then beware, they are cornered and will go out just like Scarface.
so we have Sun-Tzu, the Bible and Hollywood in your post.
Some might consider this line of reasoning triple minded.
The Bible shows us 2 realms, and the adversaries realm has already been defeated and is on it's last breaths as it's minions steal kill and destroy.
Each day is a day closer to the fulfillment of His plan to redeem His creation, and He works through us ever since He gave us dominion in the first chapter.
The adversaries minions may indeed be stupid as we know Godly wisdom is not His realm.
We may have given the man Donald too much honor and allegiance when we should have been repenting, turning, giving 1st place to the Creator that He would give us such a man to guide us back right conduct, DJT is not our Savior.
This whole world is temporal, this whole existence is temporal.
DJT has shown a way forward to others, DeSantis, Gabbard, Noem, etc.
 

shittim

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I would disband all the alphabet bureaucracies. Leave the UN, kick them out of country, put a 100 year moratorium on immigration, send all non citizens back to their land of origins. Declare war on Mexico. Cap congress and senate salaries at median income for thier districts. Disallow law makers to trade in the stock market, bring every American world wide home, if they refuse expatriate them, make gun law and safety mandatory in school. Make ROTC, national Guard or military service mandatory for every one born after 1980. And much much more
Pretty radical, there was a time the alphabet agencies were populated with patriots, we have allowed our republic to be corrupted, each of us bears a level of responsibility.
 

Dirtman

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Pretty radical, there was a time the alphabet agencies were populated with patriots, we have allowed our republic to be corrupted, each of us bears a level of responsibility.
I have a lot of other ideas that seem quite radical as well. One example is that after sorting all of the mess out, I would disband the entire fed except the Supreme court. The country would be run by a confederation of governors and any laws they enacted would be judged by the Supreme Court for constitutionality before it could go into affect.
 

shittim

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We had a good foundation, the hand of God was in the founding, taking on the greatest power in the world at that time.
We have failed to keep it.
The form of government is not the reason for the failure, we are the reason for the failure, you, I, we Americans.
 
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kaylagrl

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I would disband all the alphabet bureaucracies. Leave the UN, kick them out of country, put a 100 year moratorium on immigration, send all non citizens back to their land of origins. Declare war on Mexico. Cap congress and senate salaries at median income for thier districts. Disallow law makers to trade in the stock market, bring every American world wide home, if they refuse expatriate them, make gun law and safety mandatory in school. Make ROTC, national Guard or military service mandatory for every one born after 1980. And much much more

Hey, wouldn't we make a team!! lol Both my nephews are in ROTC and love it.
 
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Was the raid on Trumps home unprecedented? Yes. Was it politically motivated? Yes.

WEAPONIZED? Again, do FBI Agents not always carry weapons? Ergo, are they not ALWAYS WEAPONIZED?

Now, if folks are saying that the Socialist Libs are using the DOJ and FBI as a "weapon" against Trump for political purposes, fine. But say that........

The way it reads is that it is unprecedented for FBI and DOJ Agents to carry weapons when they go on a raid. :)

The whole thing is politically motivated, and it will end up backfiring on the Socialist Libs IMO........

I do not support Trump for another shot at the Presidency however, and I know that makes me an "outsider" here, but that is fine with me.

I simply believe that as long as we keep electing the same OLD PEOPLE from BOTH sides nothing is ever going to change.......

The Socialist Libs never think beyond their nose......because IF THE REPUBS had guts, when then next Repub President is in Office, they SHOULD hold RAIDS on all LIVING former Democrat Presidents!

It's the goose/gander thingy
They did say this:''Now, if folks are saying that the Socialist Libs are using the DOJ and FBI as a "weapon" against Trump for political purposes, fine. But say that........''

Because as you observed the alphabet agents are carrying weapons as a matter of course.

Therefore, this raid, especially given what we now know of the judge that signed the warrant, was an act of liberals in authority using the FBI as their weapon against Trump.

He's going to run in 2024. They're building an offense against that now.

I suggest Christians pray for a hedge of protection around our brother. Because I don't out it past the demons acting behind this agenda to go to the furthest extent to stop him if all their other efforts fail.

🙏🕊️📖😔
 

ZNP

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Trump and a lot of people connected to him or under investigation.
They are alleged to have tried to forge some electoral votes
They are also still investigating his involvement in the January 6th incident
Some of them have been charged with sedition. That's an up-do-doo Creek with no paddle charge if you are convicted
I still cannot see where Trump or those working for him have been charged with sedition. Can you give us the news report that said this?
 

Nehemiah6

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I still cannot see where Trump or those working for him have been charged with sedition. Can you give us the news report that said this?
Why bother? After an illegal and illegitimate raid on Trump's residence, manufacturing any wild accusations against Trump are S.O.P. (standard operating procedure). After all he was called Hitler, White Supremacist, Racist, Sexist, and any other vile name you can think of. Dick Cheney just accused him of being "The Most Dangerous Man in American History" (or something to that effect).

Yes, they are all afraid of him, but Trump should be on guard that the next step could be an actual assassination attempt -- not merely character assassination (for which Liz Cheney is the expert). Let's hope Trump has organized his own militia by now.
 
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Why bother? After an illegal and illegitimate raid on Trump's residence, manufacturing any wild accusations against Trump are S.O.P. (standard operating procedure). After all he was called Hitler, White Supremacist, Racist, Sexist, and any other vile name you can think of. Dick Cheney just accused him of being "The Most Dangerous Man in American History" (or something to that effect).

Yes, they are all afraid of him, but Trump should be on guard that the next step could be an actual assassination attempt -- not merely character assassination (for which Liz Cheney is the expert). Let's hope Trump has organized his own militia by now.
Well, Cheney is right.

Trump isn't a corrupt anti-America politician.

He's a Christian and a patriot who realized the USA Corporation was being made bankrupt for years by an unscrupulous immoral demonic board of directors.

And Trump undertook the office of Chairman to turn the corporation around so as to turn a profit. And cease our being the nanny for the whole world who , when not suckling on the currency mammaries of America label us Imperialists seeking to police the whole world.
Until they need us to police their enemies. Then we're allies.

Yes, Cheney is right. That makes President Trump serving a third term so to clean up and out the garbage of Bidens first illegal term a very dangerous man.

Thank you God for that very dangerous man.🙏😔💕
 
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Why bother? After an illegal and illegitimate raid on Trump's residence, manufacturing any wild accusations against Trump are S.O.P. (standard operating procedure). After all he was called Hitler, White Supremacist, Racist, Sexist, and any other vile name you can think of. Dick Cheney just accused him of being "The Most Dangerous Man in American History" (or something to that effect).

Yes, they are all afraid of him, but Trump should be on guard that the next step could be an actual assassination attempt -- not merely character assassination (for which Liz Cheney is the expert). Let's hope Trump has organized his own militia by now.
He has the SS.
I am praying God puts a hedge of protection around Donald Ytump and his family. Many in our prayer circle have done this since he was running for the office the first time. 🙏🕊️🇺🇸
 
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Pretty radical, there was a time the alphabet agencies were populated with patriots, we have allowed our republic to be corrupted, each of us bears a level of responsibility.
We were led for generations to believe ours is a representative Republic.

Where we the people elect from our national body those entrusted from all 50 States to represent our local and national interests. And to lead from our highest executive office.

The November 2020 election proved we were mistaken.

We the people underestimated the will of our enemies. Both foreign and domestic.
January 2021 proved we never saw them coming.

Our VP proved himself an apostate and a Traitor. As did the CJ of SCOTUS, and every Democrat and RINO in Congress.

We now live in 2022 what happened to us, not because of us, in November 2020. Because we the voters did our part. Unfortunately our enemies did their part too.

When your enemy tells you who they are,where,and what they're planning, believe them.

'' The struggle is no longer just who gets to vote, or making it easier for eligible people to vote – it’s who gets to count the vote and whether your vote counts at all!”
 

ZNP

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This is not a joke

The 87,000 new IRS agents are not being asked to show their CPA. They are not looking for accountants. They want people who are physically fit so then can execute arrests, they want people who can handle a gun and are willing to shoot to kill, and the third requirement is to be able to go out in the field and arrest people.

Now you know why they have been so insistent for everyone to turn in their guns. It will be a lot easier for them to "collect taxes".
 
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This is from a year ago but is given the situation, an excellent reminder.😊
 
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For those who still read me 🤣 AG Garland is just about to speak live in a newsbconference about the raid. And the mole in the Trump organization that prompted it.
It was suppose to start at 2:30 but the Attorney General Garland is running late. Any minute now.
 

Nehemiah6

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The 87,000 new IRS agents are not being asked to show their CPA.
So now the Biden administration has two sets of Gestapo thugs -- one in the FBI and one with the IRS. Next he will ask the Secretary of Defense to unleash the soldiers on law-abiding citizens and put them in concentration camps. Joseph Stalin and Joseph Biden are cut from the same cloth (except Obama is Biden's controller).