What is your take on the whole Trump religious phenomenon?
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Sorry, I have to correct you, since the way Christ taught;
Socialism is the closest human design, of God's eternal prosperity!
Just Socialism has flaws, because here it is still run by prideful, greedy leaders of mankind.
In heaven, God's way is perfect, because God is perfect.
read Matthew 20:1-16
the parable of the Harvest workers == Are not All labourers EQUALLY Paid ?
No matter who was first or who was last ?
Matt 20:16 So the last will be first, and the first last.” in God's Kingdom
proverbs 16:11
A JUST balance and scales belong to the LORD; All the weights of the bags are His concern.
proverbs 20:10
Differing weights and differing measures, Both of them are abominable to the LORD
Equal Just balance of two scales is GOOD
But differing weights and measures, are an abomination to God,
because God hates to see poverty and also hates greed of riches ...
Luke 6:38 38 Give, and it will be given to you.
A good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over
will be poured into your lap.
For with the measure you give, it will be measured back to you.”
this means EQUAL measures for All == just like a JUST scale
anyway I could write a whole book here, on what I have come to be shown by God,
but I hope what I have written has been enough, to correct you,
and help you see that Equal measures is what is Good and True to God,
and so again Socialism is the true and good way of God in His Kingdom
but we won't see that, until we return home to His Kingdom
because we live in a divided Kingdom,
in which here, there will always be poor and always greed.
Socialism is the closest human design, of God's eternal prosperity!
Just Socialism has flaws, because here it is still run by prideful, greedy leaders of mankind.
In heaven, God's way is perfect, because God is perfect.
read Matthew 20:1-16
the parable of the Harvest workers == Are not All labourers EQUALLY Paid ?
No matter who was first or who was last ?
Matt 20:16 So the last will be first, and the first last.” in God's Kingdom
proverbs 16:11
A JUST balance and scales belong to the LORD; All the weights of the bags are His concern.
proverbs 20:10
Differing weights and differing measures, Both of them are abominable to the LORD
Equal Just balance of two scales is GOOD
But differing weights and measures, are an abomination to God,
because God hates to see poverty and also hates greed of riches ...
Luke 6:38 38 Give, and it will be given to you.
A good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over
will be poured into your lap.
For with the measure you give, it will be measured back to you.”
this means EQUAL measures for All == just like a JUST scale
anyway I could write a whole book here, on what I have come to be shown by God,
but I hope what I have written has been enough, to correct you,
and help you see that Equal measures is what is Good and True to God,
and so again Socialism is the true and good way of God in His Kingdom
but we won't see that, until we return home to His Kingdom
because we live in a divided Kingdom,
in which here, there will always be poor and always greed.
S
OOPs learning how things work here in this forum = 5 minutes to edit something ??? not long enough
anyway I didn't proof read, and there was a mistaken thought on that reply
I wrote
help you see that Equal measures is what is Good and True to God,
and so again Socialism is the true and good way of God in His Kingdom
WRONG I meant =
and so again Socialism is the true and good way of things in this kingdom ==
IF you have a JUST leader running it !!!
When we get to Heaven,
we have the most Just Leader of ALL,
and we will ALL share pressed down, shaken together, and running over prosperity for Eternity !!
which is the reason, all our Spiritual homes in God's Kingdom will be Mansions
.
So chose wisely
Hate your life here, so you can Love your life forever there
Hate the wrong of this kingdom
which is the UNEQUAL differing levels of poor and riches,
Which is really an abomination to a Holy God.
hope that makes sense
anyway I didn't proof read, and there was a mistaken thought on that reply
I wrote
help you see that Equal measures is what is Good and True to God,
and so again Socialism is the true and good way of God in His Kingdom
WRONG I meant =
and so again Socialism is the true and good way of things in this kingdom ==
IF you have a JUST leader running it !!!
When we get to Heaven,
we have the most Just Leader of ALL,
and we will ALL share pressed down, shaken together, and running over prosperity for Eternity !!
which is the reason, all our Spiritual homes in God's Kingdom will be Mansions
. So chose wisely
Hate your life here, so you can Love your life forever there
Hate the wrong of this kingdom
which is the UNEQUAL differing levels of poor and riches,
Which is really an abomination to a Holy God.
hope that makes sense
“The property was yours to sell or not sell, as you wished,” Peter said to him. “And after
selling it, the money was also yours to give away” (Acts 5:4; New Living Translation).
It is clear that Ananias—like all of these individuals—privately owned his property and could
do with it as he chose. “Here was private enterprise, and private initiative, and private ownership.
It is true that generosity, compassion and giving remained a central Church practice
(e.g. Acts 11:27-30; 20:35; 2 Corinthians 9:6-7; Galatians 2:10; 1 Timothy 5).
But such instances of giving were carried out by Church members only on a voluntary basis,
and not at all A model of state-mandated redistribution of wealth.
Please go back a page to read more.
http://christianchat.com/christian-...trump-religious-phenomenon-5.html#post3492514
http://christianchat.com/christian-...trump-religious-phenomenon-5.html#post3492535
selling it, the money was also yours to give away” (Acts 5:4; New Living Translation).
It is clear that Ananias—like all of these individuals—privately owned his property and could
do with it as he chose. “Here was private enterprise, and private initiative, and private ownership.
It is true that generosity, compassion and giving remained a central Church practice
(e.g. Acts 11:27-30; 20:35; 2 Corinthians 9:6-7; Galatians 2:10; 1 Timothy 5).
But such instances of giving were carried out by Church members only on a voluntary basis,
and not at all A model of state-mandated redistribution of wealth.
Please go back a page to read more.
http://christianchat.com/christian-...trump-religious-phenomenon-5.html#post3492514
http://christianchat.com/christian-...trump-religious-phenomenon-5.html#post3492535
The preceding verses in Acts 1 and 2 show that many people had traveled to Jerusalem
from various far-flung locations in the region. They had journeyed there to keep the
annual Pentecost convocation. On this day thousands of Jews from all over the world
were gathered in Jerusalem for the annual festival.
The New Testament church was started on the festival of Pentecost in the year of
Christ‘s crucifixion and resurrection.“Pentecost” is one of the annual Sabbath days,
or holy days God gave His people.
As Christ’s disciples assembled in the temple for the observance, the Holy Spirit came
and filled them. Peter then delivered a Pentecost message, and some 3,000 people—
including many of those visiting from outside of the city—were converted and baptized
into the Christian faith. This marked the beginning of the New Testament Church.
These new converts were overjoyed to learn the truth of God, and many decided to stay in
Jerusalem longer than originally planned to learn more from the apostles and other members.
But the vast others had to journey back home, where they came from and lived and worked.
As a result, they ran out of funds and food, and were in need of help.
The first mention of having “all things common” is in Acts 2:44.
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“The believers all kept together; they shared all they had with one another,
they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds among all,
as any one might be in need.”
They OWNED PROPERTY, else how could they have sold, from time to time,
their possessions? They did not all sell everything they owned at once, but they
sold property only when, or “as anyone might be in need.”
The poorer Christians in Jerusalem been cut off from the means of self-support by
social ostracism, and excommunication from the synagogue (John 9:22; 12:12; 16:2).
But an absolute community of goods never was practised by the Church at Jerusalem
or any other Christian church. Do you also keep the day of “Pentecost" , and other
Holy days from God, like the apostles did back then in question?
or do you keep the corrupt holidays of man now shown on the popes calender?
from various far-flung locations in the region. They had journeyed there to keep the
annual Pentecost convocation. On this day thousands of Jews from all over the world
were gathered in Jerusalem for the annual festival.
The New Testament church was started on the festival of Pentecost in the year of
Christ‘s crucifixion and resurrection.“Pentecost” is one of the annual Sabbath days,
or holy days God gave His people.
As Christ’s disciples assembled in the temple for the observance, the Holy Spirit came
and filled them. Peter then delivered a Pentecost message, and some 3,000 people—
including many of those visiting from outside of the city—were converted and baptized
into the Christian faith. This marked the beginning of the New Testament Church.
These new converts were overjoyed to learn the truth of God, and many decided to stay in
Jerusalem longer than originally planned to learn more from the apostles and other members.
But the vast others had to journey back home, where they came from and lived and worked.
As a result, they ran out of funds and food, and were in need of help.
The first mention of having “all things common” is in Acts 2:44.
-
“The believers all kept together; they shared all they had with one another,
they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds among all,
as any one might be in need.”
They OWNED PROPERTY, else how could they have sold, from time to time,
their possessions? They did not all sell everything they owned at once, but they
sold property only when, or “as anyone might be in need.”
The poorer Christians in Jerusalem been cut off from the means of self-support by
social ostracism, and excommunication from the synagogue (John 9:22; 12:12; 16:2).
But an absolute community of goods never was practised by the Church at Jerusalem
or any other Christian church. Do you also keep the day of “Pentecost" , and other
Holy days from God, like the apostles did back then in question?
or do you keep the corrupt holidays of man now shown on the popes calender?
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K
No,in fact it is not. And I don't know where you'd get such an idea.
No kidding,Im glad you admit that.
Those who work ought to be paid. Capitalism agrees with this.What socialism teaches is that everyone ought to be paid the same no matter how much or how little work one does. So a kid just out of high school flipping burgers ought to receive the same pay as the CEO of the company. That is socialism.
No where in the Bible are people that are rich condemned.Job was rich,Solomon,David etc. The Bible says the LOVE of money is wrong. If you work hard and earn a good living there is nothing wrong with that according to the Bible. What IS greedy is taking what a man has worked hard to earn and spreading it around to those who don't work for it. That is greed and it is wrong.That is socialism.
No,that is not what it means.You have a fundamental misunderstanding of socialism. Socialism is about big gov't taking from the working class and giving to those who don't work. The Bible says if you don't work you don't deserve to eat. So those who can work must work. Socialism isn't about being equal at all. If there ever was a system set up on greed socialism is it.
No,actually it hasn't and I don't need to be corrected,you are wrong.
Nope,not even close. I challenge you to go to Venezuela and try to tell them its Gods perfect way.As someone once said "socialism is just communism with the gloves off". Perhaps you need to read some history.
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Kaylagrl
you have wisely, just pointed out ALL the human flaws that is put into Socialism.
Did I say I wanted Socialism ?
No !!!
I said on earth it is the closest idea to God's eternal prosperity!!
>>>> and since God is perfect !!! His way will be perfect !!!
I completely understand there is flaws of greed in socialism too.
BUT in Heaven everyone would take turns flipping burgers to serve !!!
And then everyone would take turns, so ALL will have a chance,g
to use the talents given by God, to do greater jobs too.
And then when it is time to rest, t
hen a time of Kingship with the King would be given.
But after a time of rest and recharging,
Then it would be the time, the first will be the last.
This is how everyone for eternity, has EQUAL measures of doing all things in Christ.
The reason we are all here, because Lucifer didn't want to step down,
from his kingship moment. He wanted to stay in the high Kingly gate,
and never step down to be servant again.
So he was able to convince others of his great idea,
which was accepted, and passed on, so more and more were on board.
Until 1/3rd of God's kingdom like the idea so much,
they caused mutiny in heaven,
because many were worshipping the alternative as their god.
the whole lot of mutiny, was tossed out of God's kingdom of Holy power.
((and landed up here, where no perfection of God's kingdom is found. ))
Not sure why you are uplifting any way of government here,
we are to hate our life here, lay down our life here,
so we can pick it up again, and live with Christ forever. !
And of course what was implemented in the Old testament,
is not all the same teachings of the True Messiah, in the New testament.
Just like you have stated,
YES there was very many rich kings / rulers in the Old testament.
And I'm shocked you don't know your bible well enough to say this.
No where in the Bible are people that are rich condemned
YES of course Jesus didn't condemn, but he told what to do, to follow him,
and so Christ felt total heart-ache for the rich ruler, who couldn't obey him;
when it was told, what one must do, to earn the their way to the kingdom of God.
The Rich Young Ruler[SUP]17 [/SUP]As He was setting out on a journey, a man ran up to Him and knelt before Him, and asked Him, “Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” [SUP]18 [/SUP]And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone. [SUP]19 [/SUP]You know the commandments, ‘Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.’” [SUP]20 [/SUP]And he said to Him, “Teacher, I have kept all these things from my youth up.” [SUP]21 [/SUP]Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said to him, “One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” [SUP]22 [/SUP]But at these words [SUP][a][/SUP]he was saddened, and he went away grieving, for he was one who owned much property.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And Jesus, looking around, *said to His disciples, “How hard it will be for those who are wealthy to enter the kingdom of God!” [SUP]24 [/SUP]The disciples were amazed at His words. But Jesus *answered again and *said to them, “Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God! [SUP]25 [/SUP]It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” [SUP]26 [/SUP]They were even more astonished and said to Him, “[SUP][b][/SUP]Then who can be saved?” [SUP]27 [/SUP]Looking at them, Jesus *said, “With people it is impossible, but not with God; for all things are possible with God.”
and yes 2 Thessalonians 3 does say
if you don't work you don't deserve to eat.
This was the senior disciples, teaching the new disciples;
and were explaining, if some was given aa room and board was being given,
That if someone is getting free accommodations,
then they expected that new disciple, to do some work around the place,
for the food and room they were given.
And the statement at the end of that posted tread I posted,
I did make a mistake, but couldn't go back in to change a few things.
So I left a reply to my reply, to state the change
anyway good night and wake refresh with the new day.
Ciao for now ... K
you have wisely, just pointed out ALL the human flaws that is put into Socialism.
Did I say I wanted Socialism ?
No !!!
I said on earth it is the closest idea to God's eternal prosperity!!
>>>> and since God is perfect !!! His way will be perfect !!!
I completely understand there is flaws of greed in socialism too.
BUT in Heaven everyone would take turns flipping burgers to serve !!!
And then everyone would take turns, so ALL will have a chance,g
to use the talents given by God, to do greater jobs too.
And then when it is time to rest, t
hen a time of Kingship with the King would be given.
But after a time of rest and recharging,
Then it would be the time, the first will be the last.
This is how everyone for eternity, has EQUAL measures of doing all things in Christ.
The reason we are all here, because Lucifer didn't want to step down,
from his kingship moment. He wanted to stay in the high Kingly gate,
and never step down to be servant again.
So he was able to convince others of his great idea,
which was accepted, and passed on, so more and more were on board.
Until 1/3rd of God's kingdom like the idea so much,
they caused mutiny in heaven,
because many were worshipping the alternative as their god.
the whole lot of mutiny, was tossed out of God's kingdom of Holy power.
((and landed up here, where no perfection of God's kingdom is found. ))
Not sure why you are uplifting any way of government here,
we are to hate our life here, lay down our life here,
so we can pick it up again, and live with Christ forever. !
And of course what was implemented in the Old testament,
is not all the same teachings of the True Messiah, in the New testament.
Just like you have stated,
YES there was very many rich kings / rulers in the Old testament.
And I'm shocked you don't know your bible well enough to say this.
No where in the Bible are people that are rich condemned
YES of course Jesus didn't condemn, but he told what to do, to follow him,
and so Christ felt total heart-ache for the rich ruler, who couldn't obey him;
when it was told, what one must do, to earn the their way to the kingdom of God.
The Rich Young Ruler[SUP]17 [/SUP]As He was setting out on a journey, a man ran up to Him and knelt before Him, and asked Him, “Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” [SUP]18 [/SUP]And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone. [SUP]19 [/SUP]You know the commandments, ‘Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.’” [SUP]20 [/SUP]And he said to Him, “Teacher, I have kept all these things from my youth up.” [SUP]21 [/SUP]Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said to him, “One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” [SUP]22 [/SUP]But at these words [SUP][a][/SUP]he was saddened, and he went away grieving, for he was one who owned much property.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And Jesus, looking around, *said to His disciples, “How hard it will be for those who are wealthy to enter the kingdom of God!” [SUP]24 [/SUP]The disciples were amazed at His words. But Jesus *answered again and *said to them, “Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God! [SUP]25 [/SUP]It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” [SUP]26 [/SUP]They were even more astonished and said to Him, “[SUP][b][/SUP]Then who can be saved?” [SUP]27 [/SUP]Looking at them, Jesus *said, “With people it is impossible, but not with God; for all things are possible with God.”
and yes 2 Thessalonians 3 does say
if you don't work you don't deserve to eat.
This was the senior disciples, teaching the new disciples;
and were explaining, if some was given aa room and board was being given,
That if someone is getting free accommodations,
then they expected that new disciple, to do some work around the place,
for the food and room they were given.
And the statement at the end of that posted tread I posted,
I did make a mistake, but couldn't go back in to change a few things.
So I left a reply to my reply, to state the change
anyway good night and wake refresh with the new day.
Ciao for now ... K
S
OOPs Kaylagl
I forgot to add a couple more things .....
you said this too
What IS greedy is taking what a man has worked hard to earn
and spreading it around to those who don't work for it. That is greed and it is wrong. That is socialism.
But that is going on where you live too !!!!!
A man who works hard to earn a pay check, ((like my husband did for decades)
is deducted a good chunk of his pay, week after his week, year after year,
and then it is given to others who do not want to work,
because many know they can make more on welfare not working,
then taking a minimum wage, dead end job, flipping burgers
So honestly what are you defending ???
And finally did you even read the parable of the labourers in the Harvest Field ???
by the way you stand for what you love of this world,
you would think God is unjust to pay everyone EQUALLY then ???
[SUP]1[/SUP] For the kingdom of heaven of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. [SUP]2[/SUP] And after agreeing with the workers for the standard wage, he sent them into his vineyard. [SUP]3[/SUP] When it was about nine o’clock in the morning, he went out again and saw others standing around in the market place without work. [SUP]4[/SUP] And he said to them, “You go into the vineyard too and I will give you whatever is right.” [SUP]5[/SUP] So they went. When he went out again about noon and three o’clock that afternoon, he did the same thing. [SUP]6[/SUP] And about five o’clock that afternoon he went out and found others standing around, and he said to them, “Why are you standing here all day without work?” [SUP]7[/SUP] They said to him, “Because no one has hired us.” He said to them, “You go and work in the vineyard too.”
[SUP]8[/SUP] When it was evening, the owner of the vineyard said to his manager, “Call the workers and give the pay starting with the last hired until the first.” [SUP]9[/SUP] When those hired about five o’clock came, each received a full day’s pay. [SUP]10[/SUP] And when those hired first came, they though they would receive more. But each one also received the standard wage. [SUP]11[/SUP] When they received it, they began to complain against the landowner, [SUP]12[/SUP] saying, “These last fellows worked one hour, and you have made them equal to us who bore the hardship and burning heat of the day.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And the landowner replied to one of them, “Friend, I am not treating you unfairly. Didn’t you agree with me to work for the standard wage? [SUP]14[/SUP] Take what is yours and go. I want to give this last man the same as I gave to you. [SUP]15[/SUP] Am I not permitted to do what I want with what belongs to me? Or are you envious because I am generous? [SUP]16[/SUP] So the last will be first, and the first will be last.”
I forgot to add a couple more things .....
you said this too
What IS greedy is taking what a man has worked hard to earn
and spreading it around to those who don't work for it. That is greed and it is wrong. That is socialism.
But that is going on where you live too !!!!!
A man who works hard to earn a pay check, ((like my husband did for decades)
is deducted a good chunk of his pay, week after his week, year after year,
and then it is given to others who do not want to work,
because many know they can make more on welfare not working,
then taking a minimum wage, dead end job, flipping burgers
So honestly what are you defending ???
And finally did you even read the parable of the labourers in the Harvest Field ???
by the way you stand for what you love of this world,
you would think God is unjust to pay everyone EQUALLY then ???
[SUP]1[/SUP] For the kingdom of heaven of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. [SUP]2[/SUP] And after agreeing with the workers for the standard wage, he sent them into his vineyard. [SUP]3[/SUP] When it was about nine o’clock in the morning, he went out again and saw others standing around in the market place without work. [SUP]4[/SUP] And he said to them, “You go into the vineyard too and I will give you whatever is right.” [SUP]5[/SUP] So they went. When he went out again about noon and three o’clock that afternoon, he did the same thing. [SUP]6[/SUP] And about five o’clock that afternoon he went out and found others standing around, and he said to them, “Why are you standing here all day without work?” [SUP]7[/SUP] They said to him, “Because no one has hired us.” He said to them, “You go and work in the vineyard too.”
[SUP]8[/SUP] When it was evening, the owner of the vineyard said to his manager, “Call the workers and give the pay starting with the last hired until the first.” [SUP]9[/SUP] When those hired about five o’clock came, each received a full day’s pay. [SUP]10[/SUP] And when those hired first came, they though they would receive more. But each one also received the standard wage. [SUP]11[/SUP] When they received it, they began to complain against the landowner, [SUP]12[/SUP] saying, “These last fellows worked one hour, and you have made them equal to us who bore the hardship and burning heat of the day.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And the landowner replied to one of them, “Friend, I am not treating you unfairly. Didn’t you agree with me to work for the standard wage? [SUP]14[/SUP] Take what is yours and go. I want to give this last man the same as I gave to you. [SUP]15[/SUP] Am I not permitted to do what I want with what belongs to me? Or are you envious because I am generous? [SUP]16[/SUP] So the last will be first, and the first will be last.”
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I don't know if Maher is on the record personally criticizing the Clinton's or Obama, but I have heard him many times criticizing democrats' lack of assertiveness, while crediting Republicans for so doing.
I was hoping to keep this on topic about the religious phenomena occurring in some "supposed" churches, whose faith in a political perspective appears to supercede any supposed faith they have in Christ's beliefs.
I was hoping to keep this on topic about the religious phenomena occurring in some "supposed" churches, whose faith in a political perspective appears to supercede any supposed faith they have in Christ's beliefs.
S
hum?! yea ! I did read it, that is why I'm posting it ... lol so did something prick you in my challenge to look at the EQUAL PAY FOR ALL
that socialism has ? NOT that I want Man's socialism way, for it is NOT God's Way.
Isaiah 55:8,9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD.
“As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways.
And so when I see a Christian want to fight for anything earthly,
then my heart grieves, for we are not to love something of this world so much,
we would disagree with another over it. Unless they use the Truth of God.
And so that is what I did with Kaylagrl when she ditched socialism !
I never ever said I wanted socialism that has unfair leaders in this world.
Just wanted to challenge a believer, to rethink what she is thinking,
by showing that God's way has an EQUAL PAY pattern of socialism
Again God's way is WAY Higher and perfect then man's way.
But I hate it when I see a Believer in God and his word, stand and argue,
for their right and love, for the extremely wrong and awful unbalance scale,
of the Extremely privileged paid rich on one hand,
and the rest of society who doesn't have the same privileges,
so go with little or nothing, and feel resentful, envy and forgotten.
THANK GOD HIS WAYS ARE NOT OUR WAYS !!!
No pride in making anything like this great again,
because it was never great for ALL in the beginning.
and finally just as the illusion of the great prosperity dream is,
so is the illusion of this parable = when something seems so off for man to understand.
Its because they are so sold out on the unbalanced scales of
rich pay, poor pay for the fair amount of work they do
they can't see that this parable is really talking about
the hard work in this harvest field to save souls from death
and so it doesn't matter if we work one day in the harvest field and save one person,
or we have made a life of it, and saved hundreds from death, like Billy Graham did
Once we past on,
we will all be paid equally with the same equal riches of Eternity
But for all those who think the prosperity preaching dream is correct;
like sadly, many churches teach here, so they can gain larger congregations,
who will go out and fight the corporate ladder, to get better jobs,
so larger tithes will come into their store house,
and then they can look like a larger growing successful church
who can afford their mansions here ???
well sadly this is the lukewarm church that is spoken off in Revelation 3
17 For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing,
not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked.
This dream of the formula that allows (unbalanced scales) with the filthy rich of this world in one hand,
and causes the number of extreme poor of the land, to be put in the other scale.
well this is an abomination to the Lord
proverbs 20:10
Differing weights and differing measures, Both of them are abominable to the LORD
and so I only challenged a believer to really look again, really think again
what she is really standing for is an abomination towards her Lord.
And my heart ached for her blindness, so I only wanted to help her look again,
at the EQUAL Measure of socialism, for there is less of an abomination with it,
since Just scales, given an equal measure with a fair JUST leader, like our God
is what Heaven is ALL about.
this world's wealth is as Lucifer wanted wealth to be distributed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWSxzjyMNpU
and none of us, should say anything here is great ! because it is all a stinking abomination to our True God
S
Isaiah 55:8,9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD.
“As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways.
THANK GOD HIS WAYS ARE NOT OUR WAYS !!!
No pride in making anything like this great again,
because it was never great for ALL in the beginning.
proverbs 20:10
Differing weights and differing measures, Both of them are abominable to the LORD
this world's wealth is as Lucifer wanted wealth to be distributed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWSxzjyMNpU
and none of us,
should say anything here is great !
because it is all a stinking abomination to our True God[/QUOTE]
Finally this is why the prodigal Son came to good reason,
when he says to himself, I'd rather return to my Father's home and be only a servant !!!
(( Because to return home to God's Kingdom,
and just staying as a servant, would be more wealth then the world's riches here is ))
For God's way is Higher; the last (servants) will become the first (kings)
and the first (kings) will require to be last again (servants)
all share in equal pay and equal work and rest
neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD.
“As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways.
THANK GOD HIS WAYS ARE NOT OUR WAYS !!!
No pride in making anything like this great again,
because it was never great for ALL in the beginning.
proverbs 20:10
Differing weights and differing measures, Both of them are abominable to the LORD
this world's wealth is as Lucifer wanted wealth to be distributed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWSxzjyMNpU
and none of us,
should say anything here is great !
because it is all a stinking abomination to our True God[/QUOTE]
Finally this is why the prodigal Son came to good reason,
when he says to himself, I'd rather return to my Father's home and be only a servant !!!
(( Because to return home to God's Kingdom,
and just staying as a servant, would be more wealth then the world's riches here is ))
For God's way is Higher; the last (servants) will become the first (kings)
and the first (kings) will require to be last again (servants)
all share in equal pay and equal work and rest
K
Actually I was talking about the pastor you mentioned in your post. I think that is what you said,I'll have to look back.Honestly I've stunned myself by agreeing with Maher several things lately. And almost coming to fists with Ben Afflek over Islam surprised me.He does see the difference between the Christian faith and Islam. He'd be quite a man to be reckoned with if he became born again.
