What is your take on the whole Trump religious phenomenon?

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kaylagrl

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Isaiah 55:8,9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD.
“As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways.


THANK GOD HIS WAYS ARE NOT OUR WAYS !!!

No pride in making anything like this great again,
because it was never great for ALL in the beginning.


proverbs 20:10
Differing weights and differing measures, Both of them are abominable to the LORD

this world's wealth is as Lucifer wanted wealth to be distributed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWSxzjyMNpU

and none of us,
should say anything here is great !
because it is all a stinking abomination to our True God
Finally this is why the prodigal Son came to good reason,
when he says to himself, I'd rather return to my Father's home and be only a servant !!!

(( Because to return home to God's Kingdom,
and just staying as a servant, would be more wealth then the world's riches here is ))


For God's way is Higher; the last (servants) will become the first (kings)
and the first (kings) will require to be last again (servants)

all share in equal pay and equal work and rest[/QUOTE]


​I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of socialism,whether in earth or in heaven. Neither capitalism nor socialism is needed in heaven. So that leaves us with earth and socialism has a history of failure on every level. It has been proven that it does not work. The Bible says again that if a person does not work they don't deserve to eat. Equal pay for work is something capitalism agrees with.What is wrong,both today and in the Bible,was people expecting to be paid for work they do not do. Welfare is for those who need it,not to live off for years because you can't find a high paying job. People are working two and three jobs to make ends meet to pay for people living off the gov't who shouldn't be. So socialism,in any form,is not condoned in the Bible.
 

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yea ! I did read it, that is why I'm posting it ... lol

so did something prick you in my challenge to look at the EQUAL PAY FOR ALL
that socialism has ? NOT that I want Man's socialism way, for it is NOT God's Way.
Man's socialism is NOT God's Way. Yes I agree you are correct there.
The equal pay for all is not bible based, the stuff they teach in collage is garbage.

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So A landowner [wealthy], who had at least one manager,
who needed lots of workers, to harvest his vineyard.

A generous person that paid fare wages, a just person. He did not sell
all his belongs to give to the poor. He was a good honest businessman.
This was a parable, not sure it was even about [money] in that way.

Lets look at another parable that Jesus gave to the people.

14 For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country,
who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods.

15 And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one;
to every man according to [his several ability]; and straightway took his journey.

Was he fare to give workers different amounts? This alone should be enough.
His ability in his work determined his pay. But again this a parable,
this could well mean the giving of different levels of the Holy Spirt, of power.

What is a reward for A worker of Christs ? Are all given eternal life? Like the thief
on the cross, or someone who obeyed God from his youth., is there any differance?

another [parable] given

12He said therefore, A certain nobleman[Jesus] went into a far country to receive
for himself a kingdom[coranated in Heaven], and to return[to earth].
13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds,
and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

Here all the servant's received the same amount again, which one is it? but read
the rest of the story to see how it comes out, not all recieve the same back.

Again this is a parable, this parable could very well mean everyone
is given the same amount of faith, and what you do with it.


proverbs 16:11
A JUST balance and scales belong to the LORD;
All the weights of the bags are His concern.
Yes this, God does not like cheaters, or thief's.
Ever seen the Karate kid movie? where the bad guy was using
[false weights] and was cheating the hard workers using [his scales].

No matter who was first or who was last ?
This was a parable , do you know why parables where given?
This could very well also be referring to the future resurrection.

So please stop going around saying peoples hearts here are"earthly". As you are
new here, you have no idea the hearts of those you seem to want to help, but offend.

Also my country the United States of America, the Republic for which it stands,
one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 

louis

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I have heard Maher criticize Obama and the Clintons. The man is terribly misguided in his assumptions about Christians, and his ideas on governance, but he will absolutely point out absurdity.
Correct. It seems Maher is honest about pointing out the absurdities anyone, whether Democrat or Republican makes. He will likewise point out something good someone he has previously critized is doing. He has even pointed out a couple of things he agrees with President Trump about. He's pretty much as impartial as you can get.

And I also agree that Maher is terribly misquided about the faith in Christ; but then when you have a certain supposedly Christiann group advocating for someone whose actions are totally contrary to the Christian faith; is it then any wonder why Maher is misquided about true faith, whle laughing at this group of hypocrites?
 
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Tommy379

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Correct. It seems Maher is honest about pointing out the absurdities anyone, whether Democrat or Republican makes. He will likewise point out something good someone he has previously critized is doing. He has even pointed out a couple of things he agrees with President Trump about. He's pretty much as impartial as you can get.
Yeah, but he's still a stinkin leftist.
 

RickyZ

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I don't know if Maher is on the record personally criticizing the Clinton's or Obama, but I have heard him many times criticizing democrats' lack of assertiveness, while crediting Republicans for so doing.
I was hoping to keep this on topic about the religious phenomena occurring in some "supposed" churches, whose faith in a political perspective appears to supercede any supposed faith they have in Christ's beliefs.
He does criticise dems for becoming the party of feelings instead of substance
 

Tommy379

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He does criticise dems for becoming the party of feelings instead of substance
Well, atleast democrats aren't the party of slavery anymone...... oh wait, they're the party of slavery to the government.
 

RickyZ

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So are the republicans... they're the party of slavery to wealth. (Which btw is NOT a Christian phenomenon)

When oh when will people see that BOTH sides are enslaving us?
 

Tommy379

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So are the republicans... they're the party of slavery to wealth. (Which btw is NOT a Christian phenomenon)

When oh when will people see that BOTH sides are enslaving us?
Vote for me then.

My platform: if you take handouts from the government, they have every right to dictate every aspect of your life. That's slavery.
 
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Socialism is NOT in heaven, I never said that

I said the equal measures of pay, socialism is suppose to have here,

is the closest thing to understand how we will ALL be given Equal shares of the prosperity of Heaven.

Because we are not to love something of this earth so much, we stand and argue for it.
This earth is not the earth body of a true God.

Those who want to lay down their lives here,
will have their life picked up by God for his Home, his new Earth body

anyway it doesn't matter, I only tried to challenge you, to see beyond the thought of your own

like 1 Corinthians 1:10
Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,
that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you;
but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

I don't believe there is any one great way of doings things here,
for they are all part of man's ways.

I look forward to the day, when I may returning home
where things are done, ALL God's ways.
 

RickyZ

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Vote for me then.

My platform: if you take handouts from the government, they have every right to dictate every aspect of your life. That's slavery.
If you run I will vote for you, even tho I would prefer a more middle of the roader. But they've become just about as extinct as the middle class. Hmmm I wonder if those two are related...
 
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what's the matter here??? we are either 'for Him or against Him' and ALL of His ways;
of course after He educates us whom He has called, chosen, and elected...

please try and understand, we are not claiming ourselves, but we are claiming His choice...
 
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Vote for me then.

My platform: if you take handouts from the government, they have every right to dictate every aspect of your life. That's slavery.
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this would be true, but only if Jesus was not in control of your every day life...
to know and understand the difference is an Holy thing combined with an Holy communion...
 
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SowBeeIt

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You are totally correct, I'm new here = ) Nice to meet you = )

I so do wish I knew how you all post quotes in parts ...
so I could answer them in parts ... lol

And since you put a few parts here in this reply.
I sure hope I can answer you back, with enough of an answer with each part.

First, of course I understand why parables where given.
They are physical to Spiritual metaphor messages
which only those who have been given the Spirit of Truth,
will be able to truly understand. I'm sure we can agree with this ?

Yes I know the understanding of cheat weights on scales of trade.
Of course if used to gain more out of a trade,
when the other doesn't know about it, then it is not called a good trade.

proverbs 16:11
A JUST balance and scales belong to the LORD; All the weights of the bags are His concern.

proverbs 20:10
Differing weights and differing measures, Both of them are abominable to the LORD

So if someone is using cheat weights,
which the other doesn't know about
THEN it is NOT a Good trade, and a good GOD is not part of that trade.


cheat weights would be considered differing measures,
which is an abomination in the Lord's eyes.

I'm sure we can't agree with this = )

Man's socialism is NOT God's Way. Yes I agree you are correct there.
The equal pay for all is not bible based, the stuff they teach in collage is garbage.


I've never attended collage, or church bible teaching
it is something I have observed on my own, after reading many things, over decades,
of seeking the Lord, of the miracles of feeding 1000s w/such small measures.


About this parable ....

14 For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country,
who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods.

A man traveling into a far country, from the kingdom of heaven = is Jesus.
Who had to come to us, to save us here.

13And not many days after the younger son gathered all together,
and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.

14And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.

15And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.

17And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!

18I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,

The Prodigal Son desired to return to the Father's home,
to be a servant. = A servant Jesus was sent, to break open the jail of this kingdom,

corner stone, to build up the foundation, walls For this great return

22But the father said to his servants,
Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet: = Bride


YES here in this far country, away from the kingdom of true goodness and prosperity,
some servants are given varied measures by God in the parable,
since we are in a kingdom of differences ...
(Extreme poor to extreme riches)

Luke 12: 48 When someone has been given much,
much will be required in return; and when someone
has been entrusted with much, even more will be required


So who has more in this kingdom, Yes they were given out more measures in life.


now the parable of this rich owner giving out these talents/wealth = IS GOD
((and yes he did give all he had for the poor here, he laid it all down, and then picked it back up))

All the workers in the harvest field is few and not enough
but again, those first, and those last, regardless of when they entered the harvest field,
Many years of work, or a day, all will receive the same equal measure of the Kingdom of God.

For everyone in Eternity shares in equal measures
of serving, work, design, play, rest and prosperity

the parable in Matthew 25:14-30 and in Luke 19:11-27
both end with 3 servants, even though Luke begins with 10 servants all getting equal portion.

in Luke 12 He said therefore,
A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.

Yes it is Jesus, came here, to begin the mission to sweep everywhere,
in order to gain a multiplication on lost coins, from this lost kingdom,
to return home with, to his kingdom of life.

the 10 servants at the beginning of verse 12, given EQUAL one measure each,
then gets turned into 3 servants on the return. (between 16-20)

Because there is 3 gates to exit here,
Just as there is 3 gates to enter in Revelation 21

And again this is not the place of space, or time to fully explain all.


Also my country the United States of America, the Republic for which it stands,
one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.


I believe you Love our Good God, honestly I do
And I believe there are enough believers in America, to spare her, from the time of Lot for some more time.

But there is nothing on this earth to be proud of.
when we really looking at the condition of everything
the amount of addiction to drugs, the evil movies and music,
the children innocent is going earlier and earlier

truly the labourers in the harvest field is so little

and it is the same with us, who share with your boarders


may all of us, who love the Lord with ALL our Hearts
come together with prayer and thanksgiving for the talents we have,
and may we all be able to multiply as much as we can for our returning True Lord.


This has taken me way too long to answer, guess I've learnt my lesson to type in a political thread .. lol
I won't be doing this again.

may our Lord shower you all with much wisdom !!

Hugs In Christ
 

Magenta

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You are totally correct, I'm new here = ) Nice to meet you = )

I so do wish I knew how you all post quotes in parts ...
so I could answer them in parts ... lol


To answer in sections, you must edit the other person's post. For instance, I simply deleted most of yours, to welcome you to CC, and answer this part of what you said. Make sure if you do this, not to delete any of the information that is a link back to the post you are quoting, and make sure the [ /quote] is at the end of what you are quoting before you start your response (I put a space in it so you can see it).
 
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To answer in sections, you must edit the other person's post. For instance, I simply deleted most of yours, to welcome you to CC, and answer this part of what you said. Make sure if you do this, not to delete any of the information that is a link back to the post you are quoting, and make sure the [ /quote] is at the end of what you are quoting before you start your response (I put a space in it so you can see it).
I think I got this ... lol

Proverbs 27:9 Perfume and incense bring joy to the heart, and the pleasantness
of a (new) friend springs from their heartfelt advice...

thanks for the reply and welcome = )
 

Magenta

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I think I got this ... lol
Proverbs 27:9 Perfume and incense bring joy to the heart, and the pleasantness
of a (new) friend springs from their heartfelt advice...
thanks for the reply and welcome = )
You are welcome :)

Now I will take this part of your post

Proverbs 27:9 Perfume and incense bring joy to the heart, and the pleasantness
of a (new) friend springs from their heartfelt advice.
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I copied it, and pasted it, and will quote wrap it~

Proverbs 27:9 Perfume and incense bring joy to the heart, and the pleasantness
of a (new) friend springs from their heartfelt advice.
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The quote wrap is the first icon on the far right hand side above the message text box. Highlight the text you want to quote wrap, and click that icon.

What that does is put [ quote] at the beginning (without the space)
and [ /quote] at the end (again, without the space). If you do that,
you can answer in sections, by beginning to type after [ /quote].

thanks for the reply and welcome = )


:)
 

JaumeJ

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We are taught plainly that a tree is known by the fruit it bears. Trump is his own worst witness........