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Hoffco

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Paul is talking in the SPIRIT, not the flesh, what is he saying. ? Israel sinned wickedly, Idolaters,v.7 Sexual immorality,v8 complainers,v.10, the fleshly sins,v.18, Using my liberty to hurt a brother,v.223-33, We live holy lives so others will follow us and be saved. v.33. Do you see what Paul s God is saying? Love to all who love Jesus in secerity and in truth. Hoffco
 
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Yes biggiestomp, the only time you see addicts stand up and say, "Hello my name is ______ and I'm an addict" is at NA or AA. I am among my Christian Brethren who are all sinners as I am a sinner. Paul said that where sin abounds, grace abounds. So why is it wrong that among my Christian Brethren I stand up and say, "Hello my name is Colin, and I am a gay man." Here is the secret of my life laid bare before my brothers, and instead of receiving the Love that Christ has sent to abound in us, I get "How dare you claim your sin!" Is this not what we are here for, healing and fellowship? Among Christians, I accept my sin and my responsibility for it. If I hid my sin, then I would not be letting the light of God pierce the darkness that is my soul. Instead, I wear my sin, knowing that grace will abound, and that the Lord will help me stave off sin by rebuking temptation.
 
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Hey, Don't don't thrown that word around , like you think the authors of theBible were "perfect"? no way, but they were sincerly tring to be PERFECT< if youare not TRYING to be PERFECT< you are not saved! Or, very backslidding! Phil.3:14-15
 
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Hoffco

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First, Being homosexually inclinded is NOT a sin, I have that feling myself, BUT I don't feed it anymore as I did before I was saved and I have been straight for all sexuals sinners for 52 Yrs. Praise be to God's saving power. Amen??
 
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I have a son living in Homosexuality, Soo it hurts me very much , and I want to help those who are in this damnable sin , it will take you to Hell. Hoffco
 
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Tom, if you come to my church ,I want you to ask for help, grace to leave you sin, or you must leave my church and not come back until God saves you, you can not be around Christians and take pride in your sin, no sinner will ever stand up and say,
I am .... and not weep in my presence for help, and be accepted by me, I am delievered, you can be delievered if you REPENT! Hoffco
 
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Hoffco

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Sorry to see, ThomistColin has left us, this is not a good sign, looks like He does not want help, The other motive for bring here is to divid, Lets pray for tom that God will convict and save him,
 
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The Lord is my help, my sponsor, my advocate, my God, my King, and our Bridegroom. If He were to alleviate me or heal me of this inclination then hallelujah, but I am seeking to be chaste for Him.
 
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Please study 1Cor,10 in light of Heb. 3:19 & 4:6 Israel was not allowed to go into the promise land because of their sin of disobedience abd unbelief. They were lost , The land was a picture of the rest of salvation ,Heaven. we who believe ,rightly believe, repent and believe and live holy, have the promise of Heaven, and we are seen as presently beginning to enter Heavens rest in the figure of enjoying Heaven, walking with God, on earth. Heb.4:3.
 
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Tom. thank you for that good confession of faith, you are no longer a practicing Homo. but a delieved Homo, going on the straight and narrow, praise God, You may be saved , i hope so, it depends on the rest of you testimony, Do you love the Bible, or are you fighting it? Do you love and fellowship with good Christians, or do you despise them? etc.
 
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I have NEVER been freed fron the inclination to desire intimentcy with men, THAT is not the answer, the answer is to denounce it as sin and never think of going back, NEVER, give yourself the opportubity, leave the gay world ,cold turky ,stay away from the old stommpingground, don't go there, flea fast . GO all out for God, get married and be straght ,if it is God's will go youi, only you know,. Love in Christ. Hoffco
 
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Let me tell the whole truth to the Christian world of today, you are all wet when it comes to under standing gay people, You are let wet, in saying, "Itis a choice" For some, it is a sinnful choice, OK, BUT God has made so many with this gene of homosexuality ,ever dual sexuality, and every thing in between. I had a friend who was born a man outwardly and also a female inside. It was such a challenge for Him, a nightmare, but it lived 50yrs with it, marred ,has grand children:But then made a bad mistake, to become a women, bad, bad, He should have had a D&C and cleaned out all his female parts and keep his family in tack. All hell broke loose afer his operation, NOT GOOD<
 

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First, Being homosexually inclinded is NOT a sin, I have that feling myself, BUT I don't feed it anymore as I did before I was saved and I have been straight for all sexuals sinners for 52 Yrs. Praise be to God's saving power. Amen??
Jesus Christ died for sinners to save them from their sins so it is by believing in Him we are saved and then now that we have been reconciled to God, by His grace & by His help, we are to live that reconciled relationship with God by trusting Jesus Christ as our Good Shepherd.

Until I had stopped doing the best I can in keeping my commitments, promises, & covenant to Him to be set free by Him to rest in Him & His promises to me, I would never get to know Him & the power of His resurrection. He set me free from my religious yokes of bondages to trust Him to do His work in me as He helps me put away from making any provision for the flesh that would fulfill the lust thereof, bringing every thought & imagination in captivity, & place my thoughts on good things.

Philippians 1:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:...[SUP]9 [/SUP]And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment; [SUP]10 [/SUP]That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.

Galatians 3:1O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? [SUP]2 [/SUP]This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? [SUP]3 [/SUP]Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

Galatians 5:1Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage....[SUP]5 [/SUP]For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.....[SUP]13 [/SUP]For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

1 John 2:[SUP]15 [/SUP]Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. [SUP]16 [/SUP]For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. [SUP]17 [/SUP]And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

2 Corinthians 10:[SUP]4 [/SUP](For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) [SUP]5 [/SUP]Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; [SUP]6 [/SUP]And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

Philippians 4:[SUP]5 [/SUP]Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. [SUP]7 [/SUP]And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.

2 Timothy 4:[SUP]18 [/SUP]And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
 
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Hoffco

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Enow, these are great verses that tell us to be filled with all fruits of righteouusnes. love God not the world, they tell you , that, just believing is not enought for salvation,.We must repent of all evil in our lives to be forgiven by the blood of Jesus Lk. 24:47 is so needed today. Repent for the forgiveness of sin. Hate and forsake sin to find mercy 1Jh, 1:6-10"walk in the light and the blood of Jesus will cleanse us of sin." confess and forsake sin. Love to all,who walk in the truth, Hoffco
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I've never claimed to be God. Hold your horses on that one.

The fact of the matter is, while there are some things that are opinion based not everything else. If I say to you, "Scripture teaches that Jesus is God" will you say, "Well, we really don't know anything about what scripture teaches concerning God, because you can't! It's just a bunch of people's opinions!" If you do, you are an extreme postmodernist.
Well, maybe those are the best (i.e. most humble in the face of God) kinda christians. If you are so bold to say you know God's will 100%, then you practically claim to speak with God's mouth.

[SUP]8 [/SUP](...). But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For we know in part and we prophesy in part, [SUP]10 [/SUP]but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. [SUP]11 [/SUP]When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. [SUP]12 [/SUP]For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

(1 Cor. 13: 8-12)


He says: 'Be still, and know that I am God (...)'

(Psalm 46: 10)

 
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AlwaysBlessed

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"What's So Amazing About Grace" by Yancey
 
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AlwaysBlessed

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Psalm 33:5
The LORD loves righteousness and justice; the earth is full of his unfailing love.

Isaiah 59:2
But your iniquities have separated
you from your God;
your sins have hidden his face from you,
so that he will not hear.

Isaiah 30:18
Yet the LORD longs to be gracious to you; he rises to show you compassion. For the LORD is a God of justice. Blessed are all who wait for him!

God loves people who commit homosexual acts the same way He love liars, thieves, murderers.
He however lungs to see souls surrendered at His feet. A life where I accept telling lies, or commit homosexual acts hinders the lives of Christians.

Jude 1:
[SUP]20 [/SUP]But you, dear friends, by building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, [SUP]21 [/SUP]keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Be merciful to those who doubt; [SUP]23 [/SUP]save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.[SUP][f][/SUP]
[SUP]24 [/SUP]To him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy— [SUP]25 [/SUP]to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.
 
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Hoffco

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So, you think God loves the wicked? I have news for you , someone lied to you! Psa 5:5"..You hate all workers of iniquity." Psa.7:11 "God is a just judge, and God is angry with the wicked every day." Rom.1:18"The wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness." The every day sunshine and rain does not mean much as far as Heaven and Hell are concerned. "all the wicked will be turned into Hell."
Love to all Hoffco
 

Enow

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Enow, these are great verses that tell us to be filled with all fruits of righteouusnes. love God not the world, they tell you , that, just believing is not enought for salvation,.We must repent of all evil in our lives to be forgiven by the blood of Jesus Lk. 24:47 is so needed today. Repent for the forgiveness of sin. Hate and forsake sin to find mercy 1Jh, 1:6-10"walk in the light and the blood of Jesus will cleanse us of sin." confess and forsake sin. Love to all,who walk in the truth, Hoffco'
Believing is enough for salvation.

John 3:[SUP]14 [/SUP]And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: [SUP]15 [/SUP]That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. [SUP]16 [/SUP]For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. [SUP]18 [/SUP]He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

The line is drawn in the sand as to who is saved from those that are not and it is by believing in Him or not.

1 Corinthians 1:[SUP]17 [/SUP]For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. [SUP]18 [/SUP]For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.....[SUP]21 [/SUP]For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

Being His disciple is another matter as it requires us to look to the author & finisher of our faith to help us lay aside every weight & sin in running that race for the high prize of our calling to be chosen for the Marriage Supper of the Lamb as a vessel unto honour in His House.

Those believers that did not depart from iniquity but built wood, stubble, & hay on that foundation will be judged to become vessels unto dishonour in His House and be left behind at the pre tribulational rapture event so that is why Jesus is calling believers to prepare & be ready to go because the Bridegroom will be coming soon for the repentant bride of Christ.

Hebrews 12:1Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, [SUP]2 [/SUP]Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

1 Corinthians 9:[SUP]24 [/SUP]Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. [SUP]25 [/SUP]And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. [SUP]26 [/SUP]I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: [SUP]27 [/SUP]But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Philippians 4:[SUP]13 [/SUP]Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, [SUP]14 [/SUP]I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

Titus 1:[SUP]13 [/SUP]This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; [SUP]14 [/SUP]Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. [SUP]16 [/SUP]They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

2 Timothy 2:[SUP]18 [/SUP]Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. [SUP]20 [/SUP]But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. [SUP]21 [/SUP]If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

There are alot of iniquities in the churches today as well as that which could exist in any believer's life, and so we need to look to Jesus and hope in Him & His words to deliever us from every evil work in keeping us worthy to attend the Supper.

It is those that defile the temple of God, God will destroy to become that vessel unto dishonour in His House unless they repent by His grace & by His help, before the Bridegroom comes. 1 Corinthians 3:10-23

So how we build on that foundation is key as we are vessels unto honour in His House the moment we are saved BUT what we build on that foundation, God will judge and if we do not look to Him to repent... then those saints will become vessels unto dishonours in His House by being left behind to face the coming great tribulation.

Our testimony should be that we are saved NOW so we can testify that Jesus Christ is the Saviour, the Good News to man. No one is testifying that Jesus Christ might be our Saviour or that we might be saved... we are saved. If believers do not repent of this inqiuity of denying Him as the Saviour because we are saved, then they may risk being left behind.

It is because we are saved NOW that believers should live that reconciled relationship with God thru Jesus Christ as He is with us always.

1 Corinthians 6:[SUP]19 [/SUP]What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? [SUP]20 [/SUP]For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Colossians 1:[SUP]27 [/SUP]To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: [SUP]28 [/SUP]Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

So that race to be run is not for our salvation, but to run as saved believers to be His disciples by looking to the author & finisher of our faith to overcome as we live this reconciled relationship with God thru Jesus Christ. You have to have His seal to even enter the race in being His disciple which is still by His grace & by His help as the just shall live by faith.

2 Timothy 4:[SUP]18 [/SUP]And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
 

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ever think that you could condemn someone by speaking the word of god to them? if you say no your wrong a person can get hurt from anything you say a quote or thought all your words do is spread hate this is for the entire thread here it needs to end all it's doing is causing pain anger and hate so i'm asking the admins please lock this please