ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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Maybe you forgot Gen 2 where it says to subdue the earth and dominate. All scholars agree that the subduing of hostile forces in nature such as lions, tigers, or things that eat your garden, and microscopic things like viruses that try to kill you fall under that category. You are to do what you can to dominate over them. And we have been given the knowledge by God to do so. This includes the knowledge to create vaccines to boost our own GOD GIVEN immune system to defeat them.

It is clearly a biblical mandate to fight against the hostile forces of nature.

Of course men should solve problems.

Absolutely screwy observation. Outrageous in fact. Sinful man has destroyed much of God's world, never mind the intended purposes.

God's plan for dominion is NOT what has been happening. I begin to see more of why you create the posts that you do. You do not have a mandate from God to dominate anything or anyone. People are calling you out and the responses you are giving show more and more of a particular mindset that is dangerous. You are not an expert on anything but have convinced yourself you are.
 

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Virus mutating (source)

1 Hour ago (CNN)Pfizer and Moderna are testing their coronavirus vaccines to see if they work against the new mutated version of the virus that's recently been found in the United Kingdom and other countries, according to company statements.
  • The statements from the two companies reflect the increasing global concern about a new variant of the novel coronavirus that has rapidly spread through the UK.
  • Experts are unsure of the importance of this mutation, yet a number of countries, including Canada, have imposed restrictions on travelers from the UK.
  • The United States has not done so, but the White House is considering requiring travelers from the UK to present proof of a negative coronavirus test before arriving in the US, two administration officials told CNN on Monday.
 

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I do not see how this election can possibly stand. It is aberrant, a travesty, illegal and worthy of any 3rd world country in which elections are rigged. In fact, it sets a great example for that very thing.

I just watched Barr have a little news conference because he has found a 3rd terrorist responsible for the bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland. He sees no fraud in the election, but he pursued a 31 year old terrible crime for his own satisfaction.

IMO, this is why he agreed to become AG in the first place. Barr was involved in the investigation at the time of the bombing and stated he always felt as if the case were n aot really closed. He grabbed the offer Trump extended and just before Barr walks out the door, he completes the investigation on something that happened 31 years ago, yet he cannot see the travesty before his eyes.

Barr is a Bush man. The Bushes are all one worlders. I never used to believe in conspiracies but the last 4 years have given me quite the education.

I never did any research on Barr but if he's a Bush man he's corrupted. Bushes are all one-worlders. Dubya helped plan the horrific loss of life on 9-11 which is inexcusable. All to get their Patriot Act to steal our freedoms: all for our own safety of course. He's as evil a man as Hitler. He was in Skull and Bones, a notoriously occult organizations. Someone's heart has to be black to be able to do what he did.

I lost faith in Trump when I saw him continuing all the same things his predecessors did: endless foreign warns, tax dollars to planned parenthood, and other godless moves. When he filled his cabinet with all the same types of people I knew he was a fake. Then I read of pastors who were concerned about him and I knew I had called him right.

I don't believe that we have chosen our President in many years. The people at the highest of the entire world may be the Jesuits or illuminati or bankers - I don't know. But they decide who our President is. They just let us think that we decide, and that we are free. They play the Hegelian Dialectic on us all the time.

Who knows why they're pushing the idea that our election wasn't fair: maybe to confuse Americans even more. I think they've used a variety of psyops and psychological techniques on us to try to weaken, dumb down, and confuse us. The people on twitter had the right idea. I think it's way past time to take our country back.

I pray constantly for God to step in because they have their police force in place nationwide; the police don't serve us - they serve the elite. I'm wondering how much more Americans are going to take it - especially since many know the end goals of Agenda 21. You'll be a slave, forced to live crammed in high rise tiny apartments. You won't be allowed to own a car; only the elite will. You won't be allowed at the beach, to the mountains, or anywhere - you'll have to ride your bike to wherever you want to go. You won't be allowed to own anything. You will be under constant surveillance. You won't be allowed to reproduce unless the government approves it. They'll only allow those to live who will serve their needs. Your every transaction will be viewed by the government. You'll be under tight control at all times. You won't be allowed to worship - if you're Christian, Hindu, Muslim, or Native American. You'll have to adhere to their faith. Perversion will abound. I just read yesterday that Gates came up with birth control implants that can be remotely controlled by the government. And lest anyone get the notion that they'll swing to their side where you'll be the recipient of benefits; forget it. They'll have you murdered when you're no longer of use to them.

This is their "utopia" but your nightmare.
 

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Yes I heard from family member which live in London and another friend of mine on this forum. Really sad hey, you only allowed to be seen in public with one individual.

If I think back how horrible it was when we were in hard lockdown not allowed to go anywhere very restrictive. You became so discourage being locked in your own house as prisoner.
The suicide rate has spiked.
 

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You probably want to think about standing before God one day and finding out your were guilty of false accusations.
The Bible teaches us to not be ignorant of the enemy’s devices and also to good to all me especially to the household of faith; to watch and pray, to shun evil, to not partakers with the wicked but rather EXPOSE THEM...
Ephesians 5:11
Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them
 

Butterflyyy

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I never did any research on Barr but if he's a Bush man he's corrupted. Bushes are all one-worlders. Dubya helped plan the horrific loss of life on 9-11 which is inexcusable. All to get their Patriot Act to steal our freedoms: all for our own safety of course. He's as evil a man as Hitler. He was in Skull and Bones, a notoriously occult organizations. Someone's heart has to be black to be able to do what he did.

I lost faith in Trump when I saw him continuing all the same things his predecessors did: endless foreign warns, tax dollars to planned parenthood, and other godless moves. When he filled his cabinet with all the same types of people I knew he was a fake. Then I read of pastors who were concerned about him and I knew I had called him right.

I don't believe that we have chosen our President in many years. The people at the highest of the entire world may be the Jesuits or illuminati or bankers - I don't know. But they decide who our President is. They just let us think that we decide, and that we are free. They play the Hegelian Dialectic on us all the time.

Who knows why they're pushing the idea that our election wasn't fair: maybe to confuse Americans even more. I think they've used a variety of psyops and psychological techniques on us to try to weaken, dumb down, and confuse us. The people on twitter had the right idea. I think it's way past time to take our country back.

I pray constantly for God to step in because they have their police force in place nationwide; the police don't serve us - they serve the elite. I'm wondering how much more Americans are going to take it - especially since many know the end goals of Agenda 21. You'll be a slave, forced to live crammed in high rise tiny apartments. You won't be allowed to own a car; only the elite will. You won't be allowed at the beach, to the mountains, or anywhere - you'll have to ride your bike to wherever you want to go. You won't be allowed to own anything. You will be under constant surveillance. You won't be allowed to reproduce unless the government approves it. They'll only allow those to live who will serve their needs. Your every transaction will be viewed by the government. You'll be under tight control at all times. You won't be allowed to worship - if you're Christian, Hindu, Muslim, or Native American. You'll have to adhere to their faith. Perversion will abound. I just read yesterday that Gates came up with birth control implants that can be remotely controlled by the government. And lest anyone get the notion that they'll swing to their side where you'll be the recipient of benefits; forget it. They'll have you murdered when you're no longer of use to them.

This is their "utopia" but your nightmare.
How do you know that Trump definitely gave tax dollars to Planned Parenthood?
 

saintrose

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Universal Basic Income needs to be approved, or end the lock downs. Not unless people in charge like the Hunger Games, which is a scary thought.


I know some believers are against UBI but there are already many who don't work now who are on welfare and disability. I think UBI could work if everyone was made to work. All those millions sitting home collecting disability or welfare could do government paperwork or answer phones. I think they should get every person working. Half the country should not be supporting the other half.

I went to urgent care in great need. The only people in there were Mexicans since they're all on Medicaid. Americans can't afford medical care; I know since I'm one of them. I'm paying a lot every month for health insurance. I watched as each Mexican was called - the women all had a boatload of kids in tow. When they got to me I was told I had to pay a $75 co-pay ON TOP of my expensive health insurance. I left in tears.

How is this fair?

A family member was bitten by a tick and showed obvious signs of Lyme disease but couldn't afford the medical bills. Yet foreigners coming here get everything paid for.

How is this fair?

A family member is a pharmacy tech who said that all the old Americans can't afford their critical medications. She said she's had them walk away crying. Yet all the foreigners come here and go on Medicaid where they get everything paid for. They walk away smiling.

How is this fair?

Americans are now the discriminated against class.

I know at least 7 people on disability who are faking it. They constantly find people cheating on Welfare. So I think UBI could work if it's done right.
 

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How do you know that Trump definitely gave tax dollars to Planned Parenthood?
It was on Sons of Liberty Media - I'm pretty sure that's where I read it.

Trump is also a Freemason. He constantly throws the triple 6. You may want to research the Freemason hand signs as well as what goes on at the higher levels. Trump also pushed for decriminalization of some things in other countries. Why is he meddling in other countries' affairs?
 

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I know some believers are against UBI but there are already many who don't work now who are on welfare and disability. I think UBI could work if everyone was made to work. All those millions sitting home collecting disability or welfare could do government paperwork or answer phones. I think they should get every person working. Half the country should not be supporting the other half.

I went to urgent care in great need. The only people in there were Mexicans since they're all on Medicaid. Americans can't afford medical care; I know since I'm one of them. I'm paying a lot every month for health insurance. I watched as each Mexican was called - the women all had a boatload of kids in tow. When they got to me I was told I had to pay a $75 co-pay ON TOP of my expensive health insurance. I left in tears.

How is this fair?

A family member was bitten by a tick and showed obvious signs of Lyme disease but couldn't afford the medical bills. Yet foreigners coming here get everything paid for.

How is this fair?

A family member is a pharmacy tech who said that all the old Americans can't afford their critical medications. She said she's had them walk away crying. Yet all the foreigners come here and go on Medicaid where they get everything paid for. They walk away smiling.

How is this fair?

Americans are now the discriminated against class.

I know at least 7 people on disability who are faking it. They constantly find people cheating on Welfare. So I think UBI could work if it's done right.
It's not fair. Can you imagine having a business that your family sacrificed for, and now you can't be open due to the Covid lockdown. It's like sorry, you can't pay your bills until it's safe. Well, think about the trickle down affect also. The employees, the contractors, and etc.

If they shut down the economy, they need to pay for it, by Universal Basic Income, free healthcare, free food, or end the lock downs. Another solution could be, government employees don't get paid, until the lockdown ends, or Universal Basic Income. This could put some fire in solving things quick.

How can people who are getting paid, tell another class, that they can't get paid, and don't offer compensation? This is economic tryanny.
 
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The Bible teaches us to not be ignorant of the enemy’s devices and also to good to all me especially to the household of faith; to watch and pray, to shun evil, to not partakers with the wicked but rather EXPOSE THEM...
Ephesians 5:11
Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them
Exactly. Therefore we should tell people not to accuse President Bush of being a devil worshipper and all the crazy talk that was said and then find out later that they had no evidence and were reading false accusations off the internet and slandering someone. This sin should be corrected. I agree. The fear of the Lord should make one cautious about launching outlandish crazy accusations about President Bush. They were both great men and as far as I know both professed more faith in Jesus Christ than Trump ever did so what in the world would possess someone to launch such horrible accusations as what was said. But I am done with it.

I exposed the evil and the devils devices of launching false accusations against President Bush and I have reproved the evil doer and hopefully they will stop or think about "what if they are wrong" and fear the Lord.
 
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So you really think that Genesis 1:26 is referring to mortal man wherein it is written, "and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

That's rich. (y)
Look at a commentary. Check out Biblehub.com
 
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Absolutely screwy observation. Outrageous in fact. Sinful man has destroyed much of God's world, never mind the intended purposes.

God's plan for dominion is NOT what has been happening. I begin to see more of why you create the posts that you do. You do not have a mandate from God to dominate anything or anyone. People are calling you out and the responses you are giving show more and more of a particular mindset that is dangerous. You are not an expert on anything but have convinced yourself you are.
You don't have to be an expert to fact check. Just Google key words and read the information that you find on credible sites. CDC, Wikipedia, Politifacts, Snopes whatever. It is not hard.

And yes I believe in vaccines, always have. I have always thought antivaxxers were complete nut jobs and after giving many of my friends grace to figure it out on their own I have learned through the decades that many of them do not want to figure it out. They don't want to be wrong. Facts are irrelevant to them. So yes I am bias. I believe that there is not really two sides to the issue any longer. Vaccines have a history of being safe and effective and wiping out diseases. These vaccines will wipe out COVID 19 .

This nasty virus is about to have it's but kicked when diets and treatments did not win the war, the vaccines will. That is my bias and my opinion. I have a right to it and you have a right to yours.

Being emotionally hostile toward those that believe in vaccines will not server your cause.
 

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You don't have to be an expert to fact check. Just Google key words and read the information that you find on credible sites. CDC, Wikipedia, Politifacts, Snopes whatever. It is not hard.

And yes I believe in vaccines, always have. I have always thought antivaxxers were complete nut jobs and after giving many of my friends grace to figure it out on their own I have learned through the decades that many of them do not want to figure it out. They don't want to be wrong. Facts are irrelevant to them. So yes I am bias. I believe that there is not really two sides to the issue any longer. Vaccines have a history of being safe and effective and wiping out diseases. These vaccines will wipe out COVID 19 .

This nasty virus is about to have it's but kicked when diets and treatments did not win the war, the vaccines will. That is my bias and my opinion. I have a right to it and you have a right to yours.

Being emotionally hostile toward those that believe in vaccines will not server your cause.
I don't think the virus's butt will be kicked by a vaccine when it's already mutated several times.
 
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I don't think the virus's butt will be kicked by a vaccine when it's already mutated several times.
All the information I am seeing says that the mutations it has gone through has not changed the spike protein and that the vaccines with still work.
 

Genipher

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All the information I am seeing says that the mutations it has gone through has not changed the spike protein and that the vaccines with still work.
Why are they so concerned about the UK, then? Why are they talking of banning travel? What has changed?
 
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Why are they so concerned about the UK, then? Why are they talking of banning travel? What has changed?
The mutation makes the virus more contagious is something I have read, it is thought, (not proven or for sure yet) that it might be even more contagious.
 

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Maybe you forgot Gen 2 where it says to subdue the earth and dominate. All scholars agree that the subduing of hostile forces in nature such as lions, tigers, or things that eat your garden, and microscopic things like viruses that try to kill you fall under that category. You are to do what you can to dominate over them. And we have been given the knowledge by God to do so. This includes the knowledge to create vaccines to boost our own GOD GIVEN immune system to defeat them.

It is clearly a biblical mandate to fight against the hostile forces of nature.

Of course men should solve problems.
From nature we learn the principle of taking and giving. We humans are the problem, we destroy everything else.
The mutation makes the virus more contagious is something I have read, it is thought, (not proven or for sure yet) that it might be even more contagious.
Drive more fear into the population in order to get the outcome which they actually want. It is working perfectly.
 

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The mutation makes the virus more contagious is something I have read, it is thought, (not proven or for sure yet) that it might be even more contagious.
Why is that an issue if so many people are currently getting vaccinated? Why is that an issue as long as people wear their masks? Aren't the masks supposed to keep it from spreading??
 
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Why is that an issue if so many people are currently getting vaccinated? Why is that an issue as long as people wear their masks? Aren't the masks supposed to keep it from spreading??
I am guessing (using common sense) that they want to do all they can to stop the spread until everyone is vaccinated and immune. Remember it takes 10 days for the vaccine to start working.

People don't comply with masks and it is not 100% so STAY HOME works even better. :) But people won't stay home either. People do what they want and they can't seem to do anything about the spread. All efforts seem to be wasted. But who wants to throw in the towel and say "don't even try, if you die you die?" No one in a position of responsibility is going to say that but their efforts are not really doing anything to stop it. That is my personal opinion. I could be wrong.
 
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