It's time to impeach the impeachers

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Nehemiah6

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Here's an excellent article from American Thinker on the BOGUS IMPEACHMENT CONSPIRACY. It is time to impeach the impeachers and go even further. Prosecute the Deep State operatives and lock them all up.

December 17, 2019
The Impeachment Show Trial
By E.W. Jackson and Jerome Corsi

Representatives Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler set a very dangerous precedent when they refused to conduct impeachment hearings according to constitutional due process standards. Democrats are so desperate for power that they would overturn the election of a President of the United States based on their biased and partisan interpretation of his telephone conversation with a foreign leader.


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was initially reluctant to risk the electoral backlash of impeachment. She finally bowed to far-left pressure, ignoring the President's astounding economic and foreign policy successes. Her worst nightmare is coming true -- rising approval for President Trump and rising disapproval for the Democrat Party and their presidential candidates.

This is because the impeachment process we are witnessing is decidedly un-American. Using secretive, totalitarian-style, one-party interrogations is not due process and is unworthy of a constitutional republic. Democrats ignored the constitutional standard for impeachment to remove a president: “Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors.” No unbiased adjudicator could conclude that President Trump’s telephone discussion with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky is an impeachable offense. Far from a “high crime,” the President was carrying out his duty to the people of the United States. He was guarding our treasure and protecting our national integrity. Ukraine has been one of the most corrupt nations in the world, and he was right to request an investigation. If taxpayer funded aide was used as leverage to enrich the former vice president’s son, the American people should know.

Instead of thanking the President for his diligence, Democrats in Congress had the temerity to accuse him of committing an “abuse of power.” The Executive Branch of the United States government is separate and co-equal. George Washington University law professor and constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley told the House Judiciary Committee that it would be Congress abusing power if they try to stop the President from exercising his constitutional prerogatives. Schiff, Nader and Pelosi ignored that unbiased counsel.

They have chosen instead to drag the country through an impeachment process while trampling the constitutional and due process rights of a sitting President. If they ignore his rights, why would they respect those of the average citizen?

Due process rules are not reserved to criminal trials alone. They are essentially the same in regulatory and administrative hearings. Those rules reach even to private entities operating under “color of law.” To suggest that a proceeding as grave as a presidential impeachment need not follow the same basic procedural rules of fairness is ludicrous on its face.

Hearsay is excluded from evidence in court proceedings because it is notoriously unreliable. Yet Deputy Assistant Secretary of State George Kent and acting U.S. ambassador to Ukraine William Taylor were called before the House Intelligence Committee with great pomp and ceremony to offer only hearsay. Defendants always have a right to confront their accusers, yet the “whistleblower” remains an anonymous figure. [Note: the term "whistleblower has been abused. It applies to actual crimes or unlawful acts committed. Not Left-wing fantasies.]

Adam Schiff went beyond hearsay to outright falsehood. Speaking on the floor of Congress, he reported that President Trump said to President Zelensky, “I want you to dig up dirt on my opponent and lots of it.” The President said nothing of the kind. Schiff later claimed it was a “parody.” This is the same Adam Schiff who said he had incontrovertible evidence that President Trump colluded with Russia. The only conclusion supported by evidence is that Adam Schiff is a pathological liar.

Democrats also violated the principle that the accused has a right to a vigorous defense. The earliest hearings were closed to Republicans. Information from those inquiries was selectively leaked to the press. Depositions were taken in secret. Rep. Andy Biggs, Chairman of the House Freedom Caucus, compared the sessions to Soviet secret hearings. He proposed a resolution on the House floor to condemn and censure Schiff, but of course House Democrats tabled the proposal.

Long gone is the Democratic Party of President John F. Kennedy, Vice President Hubert Humphrey, Senators Scoop Jackson and Sam Nunn. It is now a party of hardcore leftists, more aligned with Karl Marx than Thomas Jefferson. They are now completely driven by extreme leftist ideology. Lacking evidence that President Trump committed any crime or even did anything morally wrong, they recklessly passed articles of impeachment, with no regard to the great damage they are doing to our Republic. The Democratic Party once had statesmen, but it is now the refuge of demagogues.

Their Stalinist impeachment show trial demonstrated gross disrespect for our elections and the peaceful transition of power. This has been nothing less than an attempted coup d’etat, but these de facto communist revolutionaries will face the wrath of the American voter.

Tuesday, November 3, 2020 will be a day of reckoning.

Bishop E.W. Jackson, retired attorney and Dr. Jerome Corsi, author and journalist are members of the STAND Against Communism Political Action Committee. www.standagainstcommunism.com

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/12/the_impeachment_show_trial.html
 

morefaithrequired

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America has had worse presidents...…..surely......no? come on....put your thinking caps on....but Clinton was only sexually immoral wasn't he?
 

Susanna

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The American people are so divided that hateful speech pops up everywhere.

Both sides are bad.

I’m afraid it’s more accurate saying DSA (Divided States of America), than saying USA.
 

Nehemiah6

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America has had worse presidents...…..surely......no?
Why would you even say "worse" when Donald Trump has done an OUTSTANDING JOB even though he has been opposed and obstructed from the day he took office? Just goes to show how the Democrats, the MSM, and the Leftists have twisted everything to make themselves look good and demonized Trump daily.
 

Nehemiah6

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Both sides are bad.
You can only say that if you are unwilling to face the truth. The Democrats are deliberately trying to destroy America, but you won't get that from the mainstream media.
 

morefaithrequired

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Why would you even say "worse" when Donald Trump has done an OUTSTANDING JOB even though he has been opposed and obstructed from the day he took office? Just goes to show how the Democrats, the MSM, and the Leftists have twisted everything to make themselves look good and demonized Trump daily.
how do you demonise a demon?
that was a deliberately provocative comment. theres a lack of drama in my life at the moment......
 
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Why would you even say "worse" when Donald Trump has done an OUTSTANDING JOB even though he has been opposed and obstructed from the day he took office? Just goes to show how the Democrats, the MSM, and the Leftists have twisted everything to make themselves look good and demonized Trump daily.
The Leftists have hardly made themselves look good.
 

PennEd

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The American people are so divided that hateful speech pops up everywhere.

Both sides are bad.

I’m afraid it’s more accurate saying DSA (Divided States of America), than saying USA.
See here's the thing.

The states were originally designed to operate almost as separate autonomous countries. But there were overriding federal principals all had to follow.

So if you didn't like that your state said men could marry men, or murder children in the womb, or any other number of Laws that many abhor but have been forced on us by a gigantic bloated federal gov., you could just move to a state that didn't have those abhorrent laws.

But because the left has been so successful in making a profanely large federal government and corrupt court system, there is NOWHERE to go. so you end up with this untenable, worsening division that WILL only end eventually one way. I'm for peacefully dividing up this puppy right now. Obviously that's not going to happen. So the anger, frustration, and hate, will only continue to get worse and worse.
 

Nehemiah6

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The Leftists have hardly made themselves look good.
What they've been trying to do is gull the public into believing that Mr. Trump is so evil that they are saints in comparison (particularly with their phony *virtue signaling*).
 

mailmandan

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President Trump may not be perfect (no President is) but if the liberals hate him this much then he must be doing something right. ;)
 

morefaithrequired

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What they've been trying to do is gull the public into believing that Mr. Trump is so evil that they are saints in comparison (particularly with their phony *virtue signaling*).
You dont pray through St. Hillary and St. Barak?
 
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What they've been trying to do is gull the public into believing that Mr. Trump is so evil that they are saints in comparison (particularly with their phony *virtue signaling*).
Honestly they don't care what anyone thinks of them. They're lawless, immoral narcissists.
 

morefaithrequired

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Not even close to being true.
hey I feel some of your pain. those hardcore hater lefties have their own version of narcissism.
Pharisee narcissism which is rather ugly.
Trump is more a gangland mafia boss style narcissist. everyone is a fake except him eh. Look out. he might be sending a hitman to get rid of you.
 

morefaithrequired

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Trump is now officially impeached.
But they cant actually fire him from the job can they.
 

Nehemiah6

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You dont pray through St. Hillary and St. Barak?
"The Deep State needed Hillary Clinton to win the 2016 presidential election, or the dike holding back the truth would burst. Trump, the disruptor, was an immediate threat to both the Republicans, Democrats, and the Deep State. If the truth were laid bare, it would expose the Obama Administration, Hillary Clinton, the Senate and House, and many executive departments for these abuses of power, corruption, bribery, frauds, and thefts of public funds."

https://www.americanthinker.com/art...he_deep_state_a_rico_criminal_conspiracy.html
 

jacob_g

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America has had worse presidents...…..surely......no? come on....put your thinking caps on....but Clinton was only sexually immoral wasn't he?
He was the only one stupid enough getting a b.j. and get caught.... At least Kennedy had his mistress killed.
 

calibob

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Here's an excellent article from American Thinker on the BOGUS IMPEACHMENT CONSPIRACY. It is time to impeach the impeachers and go even further. Prosecute the Deep State operatives and lock them all up.

December 17, 2019
The Impeachment Show Trial
By E.W. Jackson and Jerome Corsi


Representatives Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler set a very dangerous precedent when they refused to conduct impeachment hearings according to constitutional due process standards. Democrats are so desperate for power that they would overturn the election of a President of the United States based on their biased and partisan interpretation of his telephone conversation with a foreign leader.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was initially reluctant to risk the electoral backlash of impeachment. She finally bowed to far-left pressure, ignoring the President's astounding economic and foreign policy successes. Her worst nightmare is coming true -- rising approval for President Trump and rising disapproval for the Democrat Party and their presidential candidates.

This is because the impeachment process we are witnessing is decidedly un-American. Using secretive, totalitarian-style, one-party interrogations is not due process and is unworthy of a constitutional republic. Democrats ignored the constitutional standard for impeachment to remove a president: “Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors.” No unbiased adjudicator could conclude that President Trump’s telephone discussion with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky is an impeachable offense. Far from a “high crime,” the President was carrying out his duty to the people of the United States. He was guarding our treasure and protecting our national integrity. Ukraine has been one of the most corrupt nations in the world, and he was right to request an investigation. If taxpayer funded aide was used as leverage to enrich the former vice president’s son, the American people should know.

Instead of thanking the President for his diligence, Democrats in Congress had the temerity to accuse him of committing an “abuse of power.” The Executive Branch of the United States government is separate and co-equal. George Washington University law professor and constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley told the House Judiciary Committee that it would be Congress abusing power if they try to stop the President from exercising his constitutional prerogatives. Schiff, Nader and Pelosi ignored that unbiased counsel.

They have chosen instead to drag the country through an impeachment process while trampling the constitutional and due process rights of a sitting President. If they ignore his rights, why would they respect those of the average citizen?

Due process rules are not reserved to criminal trials alone. They are essentially the same in regulatory and administrative hearings. Those rules reach even to private entities operating under “color of law.” To suggest that a proceeding as grave as a presidential impeachment need not follow the same basic procedural rules of fairness is ludicrous on its face.

Hearsay is excluded from evidence in court proceedings because it is notoriously unreliable. Yet Deputy Assistant Secretary of State George Kent and acting U.S. ambassador to Ukraine William Taylor were called before the House Intelligence Committee with great pomp and ceremony to offer only hearsay. Defendants always have a right to confront their accusers, yet the “whistleblower” remains an anonymous figure. [Note: the term "whistleblower has been abused. It applies to actual crimes or unlawful acts committed. Not Left-wing fantasies.]

Adam Schiff went beyond hearsay to outright falsehood. Speaking on the floor of Congress, he reported that President Trump said to President Zelensky, “I want you to dig up dirt on my opponent and lots of it.” The President said nothing of the kind. Schiff later claimed it was a “parody.” This is the same Adam Schiff who said he had incontrovertible evidence that President Trump colluded with Russia. The only conclusion supported by evidence is that Adam Schiff is a pathological liar.

Democrats also violated the principle that the accused has a right to a vigorous defense. The earliest hearings were closed to Republicans. Information from those inquiries was selectively leaked to the press. Depositions were taken in secret. Rep. Andy Biggs, Chairman of the House Freedom Caucus, compared the sessions to Soviet secret hearings. He proposed a resolution on the House floor to condemn and censure Schiff, but of course House Democrats tabled the proposal.

Long gone is the Democratic Party of President John F. Kennedy, Vice President Hubert Humphrey, Senators Scoop Jackson and Sam Nunn. It is now a party of hardcore leftists, more aligned with Karl Marx than Thomas Jefferson. They are now completely driven by extreme leftist ideology. Lacking evidence that President Trump committed any crime or even did anything morally wrong, they recklessly passed articles of impeachment, with no regard to the great damage they are doing to our Republic. The Democratic Party once had statesmen, but it is now the refuge of demagogues.

Their Stalinist impeachment show trial demonstrated gross disrespect for our elections and the peaceful transition of power. This has been nothing less than an attempted coup d’etat, but these de facto communist revolutionaries will face the wrath of the American voter.

Tuesday, November 3, 2020 will be a day of reckoning.

Bishop E.W. Jackson, retired attorney and Dr. Jerome Corsi, author and journalist are members of the STAND Against Communism Political Action Committee. www.standagainstcommunism.com

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/12/the_impeachment_show_trial.html
The American Thinker is ostensibly a conservative based philosophical site. Thus, it is confirmation biased. The President that should have been impeached was pardoned. That proves to me that Conservatives can't be trusted either! I regret voting for Ford.