Should President Trump be impeached?

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Should President Trump be impeached

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • No

    Votes: 19 82.6%
  • Not Sure

    Votes: 2 8.7%

  • Total voters
    23

calibob

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#21
Oops 1 last thought. I am not aligned with any political party. I am a consciences objector to the current system now. I choose Jesus and I don't believe that if he were speaking out loud now, would call either side any thing better than Hypocrites, Idolaters, Pharisees or Satanists. So as far as candidates are concerned, I choose none of the above.
 

Roughsoul1991

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#23
I just got done watching Mark Levin and the topic tonight was about impeachment. I have to admit I only understood maybe 1/4 about what he said pertaining to actual impeachment, according to law.... What I do understand (I think) is high crimes and misdemeanors, which are against us people. I honestly do not understand watergate enough to know if Nixon could have been impeached, but he resigned.... I know from Clinton getting a" blow job" from a subordnate does not hurt the people of USA jut Monica... cannot get you impeached.... But I know for a fact all of us males know "blow jobs" is not sex.... If you believe President Clinton.....lol.... Unless the Dems have "real dirt" that hurts us, the People, Trump has NEVER did anything to be impeached!
High crimes and misdemeanors is a phrase borrowed from English Law. The generally accepted viewpoint defines high crimes and misdemeanors as any serious abuse of power—including both legal and illegal activities. Supporters of this reading believe that because impeachment is a public inquiry, first and fore-most, it is appropriate to read the phrase broadly in order to provide the most thorough inquiry possible. Thus, a civil officer may face impeachment for misconduct, violations of oath of office, serious incompetence, or, in the case of judges, activities that undermine public confidence or damage the integrity of the judiciary.

It basically means that people of public office are held to a much higher standard. So normal behavior for the average Joe at a bar doesn't typically get you fired but for a elected official. It could carry damaging effects.

Honestly if you feel like the elected official abuses their power or the majority of the people just do not like the elected official then the Founders provided away for their removal.

Even Supreme court justices can be removed as we conservatives should of pushed starting in the 1960s.

So really the Democrats should just be honest and say we do not like the President, hold a vote, if it passes then it will allow the Republicans to begin subpoenas and it will probably get uglier for the Democrats and ultimately lead to a dismissed impeachment inquiry.
 

gb9

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#24
High crimes and misdemeanors is a phrase borrowed from English Law. The generally accepted viewpoint defines high crimes and misdemeanors as any serious abuse of power—including both legal and illegal activities. Supporters of this reading believe that because impeachment is a public inquiry, first and fore-most, it is appropriate to read the phrase broadly in order to provide the most thorough inquiry possible. Thus, a civil officer may face impeachment for misconduct, violations of oath of office, serious incompetence, or, in the case of judges, activities that undermine public confidence or damage the integrity of the judiciary.

It basically means that people of public office are held to a much higher standard. So normal behavior for the average Joe at a bar doesn't typically get you fired but for a elected official. It could carry damaging effects.

Honestly if you feel like the elected official abuses their power or the majority of the people just do not like the elected official then the Founders provided away for their removal.

Even Supreme court justices can be removed as we conservatives should of pushed starting in the 1960s.

So really the Democrats should just be honest and say we do not like the President, hold a vote, if it passes then it will allow the Republicans to begin subpoenas and it will probably get uglier for the Democrats and ultimately lead to a dismissed impeachment inquiry.
which is exactly why they are just putting on a public spectacle instead of a real impeachment procedure..
 

jacob_g

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#27
I support Trump... But you are right let 2020 decide then let the Dems do what they "have" to do.
 

calibob

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#28
I support Trump... But you are right let 2020 decide then let the Dems do what they "have" to do.
Not the Dems' they have conspired against the nation too. Conspiracy to defraud a presidential election should be a military offence being the US Pres., is the Commander in Chief of the US Military. And not be judged by civilian laws but by The Uniform Code of Military Justice. therefore a Court Marshal should be performed against crooked Presidential candidates. Treason, subversion, & Conspiracy against the United States are punishable by death. So is giving aid to the enemy and espionage. That includes Hilary too!

Our elected leaders have beyond punitive reach for too long. They don't respect us or the laws, it needs to end. There is nothing sacred about the Presidency. They work for us!
 

calibob

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#30
Trump is sent by God.
So was King Saul. To punish a Guilty nation. I think that allowed would be a better term. Just like the antichrist will be allowed to try to rule the world and all nations will be destroyed as a result. We are no exception, We are not exempt.
 

calibob

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#31
I would expect a man sent by God would oppose FIAT part of the banking system and our BONDAGE to the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK, CREDIT CARDS and the environmental dammage caused by the fossil fuels and petro chemical industries that are poisoning our skies, water and food and descendants. Are we not expected to be good stewards of this land that God is allowing us to use?

Homosexuality is most certainly a sin and abortion is an abomination But Greed is Idolatry and what about pollution and living on somebody else's borrowed money. and>
Jeremiah 2:7 ESV "And I brought you into a plentiful land to enjoy its fruits and its good things. But when you came in, you defiled my land and made my heritage an abomination."
And>
Deut 27:19 “Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.” Then all the people shall say, “Amen!”
 
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So was King Saul. To punish a Guilty nation. I think that allowed would be a better term. Just like the antichrist will be allowed to try to rule the world and all nations will be destroyed as a result. We are no exception, We are not exempt.[/QUOTEI am not sure how to respond. Are you saying that trump was like Saul?? Because I would like to think that a man who has appointed more conservative pro life judges ever, appointed a conservative pro life Supreme Court justice, recognized Jerusalem as the capitol of Isreal, has prayers before his cabinet meetings, is someone ordained by God. Probably just me. Hey if you ever get a chance look up the ministry of Kim clement. And his visions he claims from God recorded in 2014. Cali Bob. God Bless You Brother.
 

calibob

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#34
I am not sure how to respond. Are you saying that trump was like Saul?? Because I would like to think that a man who has appointed more conservative pro life judges ever, appointed a conservative pro life Supreme Court justice, recognized Jerusalem as the capitol of Isreal, has prayers before his cabinet meetings, is someone ordained by God. Probably just me. Hey if you ever get a chance look up the ministry of Kim clement. And his visions he claims from God recorded in 2014. Cali Bob. God Bless You Brother.

No, that our nation has backslidden like Israel did before Saul. The beast will sit on the throne of Israel so I'm neither surprised or impressed by the resurrection of Jerusalem as Israel's capitol city.

Abortion is not the only issue on the national front. There is the environment, public schools, rampant acceptance of Homosexuality. Narco terrorists, refugees and the Federal Reserve Banking system including the national debt. Not to mention Big Pharma, globalism and imported durable goods mad by wage slaves in third world countries.

So I doubt the true Republican agenda is morality based. Plus what are we doing in Afghanistan? Most of them hate us and think we are Infidels that deserve death regardless of what ever kindness we show them. And after we leave they'll go back to what they've been doing since Ishmael.

I stopped listening to New prophecy back in the Hal Lindsey, Jim Bakker and Tim La Haye days. Right now I'm reading Isaiah, along with studying 1 kings and Hebrews, online, with another, from two different translations at the same time. Thank you for your respectable response. It's not the most obvious I fear the most. It is the most insidious that creeps in while we are being distracted by looking at who's making the most noise. Like a political shell game. I takes 3 dealer, shill and sucker. If Lucifer is the dealer, who are the shills and who are the suckers?
 
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I am not sure how to respond. Are you saying that trump was like Saul?? Because I would like to think that a man who has appointed more conservative pro life judges ever, appointed a conservative pro life Supreme Court justice, recognized Jerusalem as the capitol of Isreal, has prayers before his cabinet meetings, is someone ordained by God. Probably just me. Hey if you ever get a chance look up the ministry of Kim clement. And his visions he claims from God recorded in 2014. Cali Bob. God Bless You Brother.

No, that our nation has backslidden like Israel did before Saul. The beast will sit on the throne of Israel so I'm neither surprised or impressed by the resurrection of Jerusalem as Israel's capitol city.

Abortion is not the only issue on the national front. There is the environment, public schools, rampant acceptance of Homosexuality. Narco terrorists, refugees and the Federal Reserve Banking system including the national debt. Not to mention Big Pharma, globalism and imported durable goods mad by wage slaves in third world countries.

So I doubt the true Republican agenda is morality based. Plus what are we doing in Afghanistan? Most of them hate us and think we are Infidels that deserve death regardless of what ever kindness we show them. And after we leave they'll go back to what they've been doing since Ishmael.

I stopped listening to New prophecy back in the Hal Lindsey, Jim Bakker and Tim La Haye days. Right now I'm reading Isaiah, along with studying 1 kings and Hebrews, online, with another, from two different translations at the same time. Thank you for your respectable response. It's not the most obvious I fear the most. It is the most insidious that creeps in while we are being distracted by looking at who's making the most noise. Like a political shell game. I takes 3 dealer, shill and sucker. If Lucifer is the dealer, who are the shills and who are the suckers?
You are very wise and perhaps I should listen and read more. I’m still trying to fully understand the book of John.
 

calibob

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#36
I'm not pro pre trib rapture at all. We must remain faithful either death which will be followed by the resurrection or the seventh trumpet when the rapture will occur.
 
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#37
I would expect a man sent by God would oppose FIAT part of the banking system and our BONDAGE to the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK, CREDIT CARDS and the environmental dammage caused by the fossil fuels and petro chemical industries that are poisoning our skies, water and food and descendants. Are we not expected to be good stewards of this land that God is allowing us to use?

Homosexuality is most certainly a sin and abortion is an abomination But Greed is Idolatry and what about pollution and living on somebody else's borrowed money. and>
Jeremiah 2:7 ESV "And I brought you into a plentiful land to enjoy its fruits and its good things. But when you came in, you defiled my land and made my heritage an abomination."
And>
Deut 27:19 “Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.” Then all the people shall say, “Amen!”
Are you a road scholar?? You are incredibly perceptive. You really see the “whole” picture. I agree with 100% of what you say.
 

calibob

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#38
Are you a road scholar?? You are incredibly perceptive. You really see the “whole” picture. I agree with 100% of what you say.
Just an old man that's been paying attention. Thanks for the support.