Why I'm getting the vaccine.

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Katia

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Paranoia is not of the Lord,.. so there you have it.
I have no TV, so no Fox News, and gave up on shouty churches. If a Pastor starts shouting, I leave. I try to read scholarly articles on various issues from credible institutions. I don't think anyone is saying that the vaccines are really good. I was just talking with my Doctors office at the VA Hospital and she said they are being very cautious. I have COPD, Arthritis, and Scoliosis so I'm careful.
 
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You really don't understand why people don't want to put this experimental mRNA poison into their body? I'm not going to experiment with their glitches. I am not afraid of the virus. Clearly neither are millions of others. I would take the virus 1000 times before I would take the "vaccine".
It generally only takes 1 case of the virue not a 1000. I wonder what radio host's Marc Bernier, 65, Phil Valentine, 61, and Dick Farrel, 65 (who were anti-vax) would have done if they knew they would die before August was over from the virus.
As for me I'll be taking the booster in 2 months, and rely on God to take care of me as He always has.

"Be joyful always, be fearful for nothing and prayerful about everything and the peace of God which transcends human understanding will keep your hearts and minds secure."
 
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I have no TV, so no Fox News, and gave up on shouty churches. If a Pastor starts shouting, I leave. I try to read scholarly articles on various issues from credible institutions. I don't think anyone is saying that the vaccines are really good. I was just talking with my Doctors office at the VA Hospital and she said they are being very cautious. I have COPD, Arthritis, and Scoliosis so I'm careful.
You should also be very wary of peer-reviewed scholarly articles as the majority of this "education" is from the world and total nonsense.
 
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It generally only takes 1 case of the virue not a 1000. I wonder what radio host's Marc Bernier, 65, Phil Valentine, 61, and Dick Farrel, 65 (who were anti-vax) would have done if they knew they would die before August was over from the virus.
As for me I'll be taking the booster in 2 months, and rely on God to take care of me as He always has.

"Be joyful always, be fearful for nothing and prayerful about everything and the peace of God which transcends human understanding will keep your hearts and minds secure."
I am not afraid of dying of a virus. Don't you get it? The Lord will take me home when He decides. As a believer, don't you get this?

Taking a vaccine and a booster is the opposite of trusting in God.
 
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I am not afraid of dying of a virus. Don't you get it? The Lord will take me home when He decides. As a believer, don't you get this?

Taking a vaccine and a booster is the opposite of trusting in God.
you have your opinion and I have mine, never the twain will meet.
 

Katia

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I am not afraid of dying of a virus. Don't you get it? The Lord will take me home when He decides. As a believer, don't you get this?

Taking a vaccine and a booster is the opposite of trusting in God.
You can only rule the life you have. You can not dictate to others and they might make a choice that you don't like.
 
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You can only rule the life you have. You can not dictate to others and they might make a choice that you don't like.
I don't rule my life.. the Lord does. Secondly, I couldn't care less if people want to put that crap into their bodies. The vitriol is coming from those who are taking the "vaccine" toward those who are not. We have been accused of being un-Christian because taking the "vaccine" is caring for your neighbor, etc., et al. They need to back off and start acting like the Christians they claim to be.
 

Katia

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I don't rule my life.. the Lord does. Secondly, I couldn't care less if people want to put that crap into their bodies. The vitriol is coming from those who are taking the "vaccine" toward those who are not. We have been accused of being un-Christian because taking the "vaccine" is caring for your neighbor, etc., et al. They need to back off and start acting like the Christians they claim to be.
Perhaps you could take it down a notch too?
 

Katia

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Why would I do that? I'm passionate about this. That's fine if you're not, but you don't rule my life anymore than I do.
I've got severe PTSD and your acting out triggers me. I'm sorry. I'll block you.
 
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I've got severe PTSD and your acting out triggers me. I'm sorry. I'll block you.
Yes, please do. I wouldn't want to be blamed for you acting out.

Perhaps you shouldn't spend time in a forum where the truth is told. It can be upsetting.
 

Icedaisey

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Scientific data showing this?
John Hopkins University confirms you can be vaccinated with a PCR test and not even know it


From a Dutch source linked in this article
MEDICAL SCIENCE
Dangerous mRNA Covid-19 vaccinations explained in layman’s terms so concerned people understand



MEDICAL SHOCKER: Scientists at Sloan Kettering discover mRNA inactivates tumor-suppressing proteins, meaning it can promote cancer
03/02/2021 /



PDF: Adverse Effects Messenger RNA vaccines
http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/cep/COVID/mRNA vaccine review final.pdf

Keep in mind folks, MRNA vaccine has a history of being researched by labs around the world and since the 80's. Not until Covid-19 has MRNA vaccine been permitted to be released for use on the public.
 
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John Hopkins University confirms you can be vaccinated with a PCR test and not even know it


From a Dutch source linked in this article
MEDICAL SCIENCE
Dangerous mRNA Covid-19 vaccinations explained in layman’s terms so concerned people understand



MEDICAL SHOCKER: Scientists at Sloan Kettering discover mRNA inactivates tumor-suppressing proteins, meaning it can promote cancer
03/02/2021 /



PDF: Adverse Effects Messenger RNA vaccines
http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/cep/COVID/mRNA vaccine review final.pdf

Keep in mind folks, MRNA vaccine has a history of being researched by labs around the world and since the 80's. Not until Covid-19 has MRNA vaccine been permitted to be released for use on the public.
Truly shocking. Not.
 

Roughsoul1991

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John Hopkins University confirms you can be vaccinated with a PCR test and not even know it


From a Dutch source linked in this article
MEDICAL SCIENCE
Dangerous mRNA Covid-19 vaccinations explained in layman’s terms so concerned people understand



MEDICAL SHOCKER: Scientists at Sloan Kettering discover mRNA inactivates tumor-suppressing proteins, meaning it can promote cancer
03/02/2021 /



PDF: Adverse Effects Messenger RNA vaccines
http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/cep/COVID/mRNA vaccine review final.pdf

Keep in mind folks, MRNA vaccine has a history of being researched by labs around the world and since the 80's. Not until Covid-19 has MRNA vaccine been permitted to be released for use on the public.


Pulled off a conspiracy website with no evidence. Only link simply explains the use of theragrippers and leaves at possible use in PCR testing but no proof. Just fear mongering.



Off the same conspiracy site saying they speak in layman's terms but yet you can find 100s of other Doctors who make it just as simple explaining why mRNA vaccine does not reach the nucleus.

03/02/2021
True mRNA related to a rare blood cancer not related to mRNA vaccines. Read it more carefully. The actual study was published in 2018.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0465-8#citeas



Basically not enough data...

Conclusions
The current evidence base on messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines is made up entirely of small early-stage trials, nearly all of which examined only short-term outcomes. They lack sufficient power for testing the statistical significance of most results, and for assessing the risk of serious but uncommon adverse events.
The size of these trials and their dual purpose in evaluating dosing and safety precludes quantitative synthesis or GRADE analysis of their results, but there are a few trends that appear to be consistent across the different studies. Systemic adverse effects such as fatigue, headache, muscle aches, and chills are common following administration of mRNA vaccines, but they usually resolve within a day or two. Localized adverse effects, most notably pain at the injection site, are also common, and also resolve within a day or two. The rate of severe adverse effects (severe enough to interfere with a person’s daily activities) appears to be in the range of 5 to 10 percent. The rate and severity of adverse events increases with vaccine dose. The rate and severity of adverse events also appears to be greater following a second dose of vaccine than following the first.
Larger clinical trials of mRNA vaccines against the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus are in progress, and their results are expected in mid2021. Once evidence from those trials is published, more certain conclusions about the safety of these vaccines may be reached. Additional trials will be necessary to determine the relative safety of mRNA vaccines and vaccines using more established technologies.
Clinical guidance specific to the use of mRNA vaccines is lacking at this time, because of the lack of clinical evidence.
 

Katia

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Pulled off a conspiracy website with no evidence. Only link simply explains the use of theragrippers and leaves at possible use in PCR testing but no proof. Just fear mongering.


Off the same conspiracy site saying they speak in layman's terms but yet you can find 100s of other Doctors who make it just as simple explaining why mRNA vaccine does not reach the nucleus.


True mRNA related to a rare blood cancer not related to mRNA vaccines. Read it more carefully. The actual study was published in 2018.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0465-8#citeas


Basically not enough data...

Conclusions
The current evidence base on messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines is made up entirely of small early-stage trials, nearly all of which examined only short-term outcomes. They lack sufficient power for testing the statistical significance of most results, and for assessing the risk of serious but uncommon adverse events.
The size of these trials and their dual purpose in evaluating dosing and safety precludes quantitative synthesis or GRADE analysis of their results, but there are a few trends that appear to be consistent across the different studies. Systemic adverse effects such as fatigue, headache, muscle aches, and chills are common following administration of mRNA vaccines, but they usually resolve within a day or two. Localized adverse effects, most notably pain at the injection site, are also common, and also resolve within a day or two. The rate of severe adverse effects (severe enough to interfere with a person’s daily activities) appears to be in the range of 5 to 10 percent. The rate and severity of adverse events increases with vaccine dose. The rate and severity of adverse events also appears to be greater following a second dose of vaccine than following the first.
Larger clinical trials of mRNA vaccines against the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus are in progress, and their results are expected in mid2021. Once evidence from those trials is published, more certain conclusions about the safety of these vaccines may be reached. Additional trials will be necessary to determine the relative safety of mRNA vaccines and vaccines using more established technologies.
Clinical guidance specific to the use of mRNA vaccines is lacking at this time, because of the lack of clinical evidence.
Fake news should not be legal
 

Roughsoul1991

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Fake news should not be legal
Fake news has it's place in a society who honors free speech because it has in times past the truth was in what was considered fake at the time. You never ever want a society that only allows one idea regardless if you believe all others is absurd. The point is to get the best minds of each side and debate to sway the opinion of the public. We no longer support debate in society. We instead want to shut up all opposition. Cancel culture at its finest.