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Vic, what I find interesting is that people still expect logic and Biblical teachings from him.....
but if you must know he is referring to his falsely held belief that since he "judges" that everyone is going to heaven and without sin, that makes him sinless.
trying to point out the illogical thought process is just a waste of time, but if you feel so moved maybe you will have better luck.
Personally, I just say a prayer whenever I see his name pop up and hope God takes care of it.
'cuz it reminds me of trying to tell a two year old why they can't have candy or that toy in the store just cuz they really really want it and like it and the people at the store should just GIVE it to them NOW.
Except in this case its food, clothes, houses, etc should just be given to everyone even if they don't want to work for it. Greed and sin are blamed upon MONEY, EVIL MONEY and not upon the sinful nature and choices of mankind.
How do you explain to a two year old the concept of work and money and being able to pay for the goods created and how money is a system of trust that was used to replace the barter system?
Or how do you explain to a two year old why Jesus taught about being good stewards and told parables about talents or paid tithes to the church with money, when they INSIST that MONEY is EVIL?
Sometimes God tells us to wait for them to grow up and become a little more mature before having that conversation with them.
cuz they don't have to worry about money when they are two, they are surrounded by people who love them and take care of them and deal with the grownup issues for them.
but one would think by 13 or 14 most people would have a concept about why Jesus used parables about money to explain things and be able to see that MONEY is not Evil but loving money above others is evil.
Being rich is not evil but God tells us to share when needed. He however does not tell us to give to people who will just waste it away and misuse the things God has entrusted us to care for. He tells us that people should work for their bread (if they can) and if they do not work they should not eat.
2 Thessalonians 3
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he[SUP][a][/SUP] received from us. [SUP]7 [/SUP]For you yourselves know how you ought to follow us, for we were not disorderly among you; [SUP]8 [/SUP]nor did we eat anyone’s bread free of charge, but worked with labor and toil night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you, [SUP]9 [/SUP]not because we do not have authority, but to make ourselves an example of how you should follow us.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread.
sorry zone, totally off your OP.
but if you must know he is referring to his falsely held belief that since he "judges" that everyone is going to heaven and without sin, that makes him sinless.
trying to point out the illogical thought process is just a waste of time, but if you feel so moved maybe you will have better luck.
Personally, I just say a prayer whenever I see his name pop up and hope God takes care of it.
'cuz it reminds me of trying to tell a two year old why they can't have candy or that toy in the store just cuz they really really want it and like it and the people at the store should just GIVE it to them NOW.
Except in this case its food, clothes, houses, etc should just be given to everyone even if they don't want to work for it. Greed and sin are blamed upon MONEY, EVIL MONEY and not upon the sinful nature and choices of mankind.
How do you explain to a two year old the concept of work and money and being able to pay for the goods created and how money is a system of trust that was used to replace the barter system?
Or how do you explain to a two year old why Jesus taught about being good stewards and told parables about talents or paid tithes to the church with money, when they INSIST that MONEY is EVIL?
Sometimes God tells us to wait for them to grow up and become a little more mature before having that conversation with them.
cuz they don't have to worry about money when they are two, they are surrounded by people who love them and take care of them and deal with the grownup issues for them.
but one would think by 13 or 14 most people would have a concept about why Jesus used parables about money to explain things and be able to see that MONEY is not Evil but loving money above others is evil.
Being rich is not evil but God tells us to share when needed. He however does not tell us to give to people who will just waste it away and misuse the things God has entrusted us to care for. He tells us that people should work for their bread (if they can) and if they do not work they should not eat.
2 Thessalonians 3
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he[SUP][a][/SUP] received from us. [SUP]7 [/SUP]For you yourselves know how you ought to follow us, for we were not disorderly among you; [SUP]8 [/SUP]nor did we eat anyone’s bread free of charge, but worked with labor and toil night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you, [SUP]9 [/SUP]not because we do not have authority, but to make ourselves an example of how you should follow us.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread.
sorry zone, totally off your OP.
Those were absolutely wonderful sermons - for the unsaved or newborn. And good foundational points on which to base our walk. And I guess if you think God sat on His @ss back in 70AD they go far enough to nurse you along. But for a 'tribulation saint' they are woefully short. How we have our salvation is one thing. How -or if- we empower it is another.
It trully is pretty simple to understand :
The holyspirit cannot do such thing, but man can sin
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Its a work in progress all my days here until he returns
As for your first post justamazed: I am a prophet. And I say to do away with money is to do away with all evil.
This reminds me of the venus project do away money scenario ,now how are you going to do away with unclean spirit and satan and the heart of wicked men? Or perhaps Ephesians 6:12 can explains it
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Thats not possible in the world we live in due to how things work,This world is fading away just as it is written 1 John 2:17, and God Almighty wrote the finale of it all when Jesus Christ returns. Trust the Lord as your savior ,and not your own knowledge
1 John 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
God bless brother and i pray that you will gain understandning
in Jesus name amen
The holyspirit cannot do such thing, but man can sin
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Its a work in progress all my days here until he returns
As for your first post justamazed: I am a prophet. And I say to do away with money is to do away with all evil.
This reminds me of the venus project do away money scenario ,now how are you going to do away with unclean spirit and satan and the heart of wicked men? Or perhaps Ephesians 6:12 can explains it
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Thats not possible in the world we live in due to how things work,This world is fading away just as it is written 1 John 2:17, and God Almighty wrote the finale of it all when Jesus Christ returns. Trust the Lord as your savior ,and not your own knowledge
1 John 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
God bless brother and i pray that you will gain understandning
in Jesus name amen
It trully is pretty simple to understand :
The holyspirit cannot do such thing, but man can sin
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Its a work in progress all my days here until he returns
As for your first post justamazed: I am a prophet. And I say to do away with money is to do away with all evil.
This reminds me of the venus project do away money scenario ,now how are you going to do away with unclean spirit and satan and the heart of wicked men? Or perhaps Ephesians 6:12 can explains it
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Thats not possible in the world we live in due to how things work,This world is fading away just as it is written 1 John 2:17, and God Almighty wrote the finale of it all when Jesus Christ returns. Trust the Lord as your savior ,and not your own knowledge
1 John 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
God bless brother and i pray that you will gain understandning in Jesus name amen
The holyspirit cannot do such thing, but man can sin
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Its a work in progress all my days here until he returns
As for your first post justamazed: I am a prophet. And I say to do away with money is to do away with all evil.
This reminds me of the venus project do away money scenario ,now how are you going to do away with unclean spirit and satan and the heart of wicked men? Or perhaps Ephesians 6:12 can explains it
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Thats not possible in the world we live in due to how things work,This world is fading away just as it is written 1 John 2:17, and God Almighty wrote the finale of it all when Jesus Christ returns. Trust the Lord as your savior ,and not your own knowledge
1 John 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
God bless brother and i pray that you will gain understandning
in Jesus name amen
this breaks my heart.
sickens me.
sermons such as those you listened to are for the unsaved...or newborn?
you don't think Christians should hear the Gospel - expository preaching from Romans as often as possible?
you don't hear GOD GLORFIED in His Majesty, as CHRIST is exhalted in those sermons?
good foundational points??
i...i don't know.
i didn't expect this from you.
i'm speechless.
are you a Pastor?
you never preach from the Gospel (from Romans) to CHRIST'S SHEEP?
what do you feed them?
THE LEFT BEHIND SERIES?
i see.
The God-breathed testimony of the Salvation Plan of Almighty GOD falls woefully short.
the testimoy of christ as the fulfillment of ALL THINGS......falls short???
for "tribulation saints"....WOEFULLY SHORT. (this mean damnably short)
I hope God didn't make ANOTHER mistake.
i really have not much more to say.
...............
i sincerely and urgently request any other christians to listen to even PART 1 of the sermon i posted....tell me if you come to the same conclusion ricky came to.
is that sermon WOEFULLY INADEQUATE for ANYTHING OR ANYONE?
this is the evidence of this OBSCENE MOVEMENT which places MAN at the center of everything and considers God's Eternal Word baby food; at best good for nursing someone along; inadequate; unable to empower;
Oh LORD forgive!
sickens me.
sermons such as those you listened to are for the unsaved...or newborn?
you don't think Christians should hear the Gospel - expository preaching from Romans as often as possible?
you don't hear GOD GLORFIED in His Majesty, as CHRIST is exhalted in those sermons?
good foundational points??
i...i don't know.
i didn't expect this from you.
i'm speechless.
are you a Pastor?
you never preach from the Gospel (from Romans) to CHRIST'S SHEEP?
what do you feed them?
THE LEFT BEHIND SERIES?
i see.
The God-breathed testimony of the Salvation Plan of Almighty GOD falls woefully short.
the testimoy of christ as the fulfillment of ALL THINGS......falls short???
for "tribulation saints"....WOEFULLY SHORT. (this mean damnably short)
I hope God didn't make ANOTHER mistake.
i really have not much more to say.
...............
i sincerely and urgently request any other christians to listen to even PART 1 of the sermon i posted....tell me if you come to the same conclusion ricky came to.
is that sermon WOEFULLY INADEQUATE for ANYTHING OR ANYONE?
this is the evidence of this OBSCENE MOVEMENT which places MAN at the center of everything and considers God's Eternal Word baby food; at best good for nursing someone along; inadequate; unable to empower;
Oh LORD forgive!
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I was pondering this thread and here is my humble opinion.
I think that they're no prophets anymore. At first this made me sad I thought that God no longer wanted to speak to us but then I was happy again because He speaks to us that have an ear to hear Him constantly. I think the real reason is that there is no need for prophets anymore. Gods word is complete there's no need to amend as He is infallible. He gave us the Son to complete the work and after that what is there to say that Jesus didnt? I think the rest is up to us, the ball is in our court so-to-speak. We should I think concentrate on what was already said and tested instead of looking for modern day prophecy. To me it seems unlikely God would tell someone that another person was going to do something relatively trivial. I'm not saying what you do is trivial but compared to the prophecy of scripture it doesn't hold that type of weight. Just my opinion Im sure people will disagree but this is from my heart so...
In Christ,
SeekingJC
I think that they're no prophets anymore. At first this made me sad I thought that God no longer wanted to speak to us but then I was happy again because He speaks to us that have an ear to hear Him constantly. I think the real reason is that there is no need for prophets anymore. Gods word is complete there's no need to amend as He is infallible. He gave us the Son to complete the work and after that what is there to say that Jesus didnt? I think the rest is up to us, the ball is in our court so-to-speak. We should I think concentrate on what was already said and tested instead of looking for modern day prophecy. To me it seems unlikely God would tell someone that another person was going to do something relatively trivial. I'm not saying what you do is trivial but compared to the prophecy of scripture it doesn't hold that type of weight. Just my opinion Im sure people will disagree but this is from my heart so...
In Christ,
SeekingJC
[video=youtube;QTodWqdkJHc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTodWqdkJHc[/video]
"The Seven Mountains" Interview with Johnny Enlow
Johnny:
the Seven Mountains prophecy is the message of the Kingdom.
we understand the gospel of salvation....it includes the gospel of salvation, which includes the messages that He's come.....and brought good news.....for individuals He wants to save......and that's......kind of......understanding what He wants to do on the Mountain of Religion, or Worship. which becomes ONE of the Seven Mountains....
Interviewer:
....which is the one that we tend to focus on in church more than anything...
Johnny:
....it's the one we've been doing pretty good...
you know, a couple hundred thousand a day are coming to the Lord...there's 2.2 billion around....and so that part's good....we've got it down - getting people into THE WILDERNESS......from the analogy of Israel headed towards the Promised land.....and......where's there's....you know.....the MINIMAL PROVISION OF THE LORD....manna, and water from rock....
...but He's called us to cross the river Jordan...
....and He says to take Seven Nations greater and mighter than us....The Seven Mountains:
The Mountain of Media; The Mountain of Education; The Mountain of Government; The Mountain of Economy; The Mountain of Family; The Mountain of Arts & Entertainment.....otherwise also known as the celebration of Arts & Entertainment....and of course, the Seventh is the Mountain of Religion or Worship....
....some of those mountains....you know....there are different parts of the body of Christ who don't even believe they are redeemable...those Mountains are redeemable....
....Arts & Entertainment - Jezebel so....and touch with them.....the idea for many is the idea that God just needs to come and burn it all up....
but He does have, uh.....He has an assignment for us....
not just to get people saved...in these mountains...
this is the understanding that takes awhile to adjust to.
....is that we're not just trying to get the people of those sectors of society SAVED...we've always understood that....
....but that the structures themselves are not functioning correctly...they are releasing darkness.
....every one of the structures are releasing darkness, they're polluting society.
....one of the reasons we have so much sickness is because there is pollution, distortion being released from all these sectors of society from Jezebel; from Apollyon; from Leviathon; from Ba'al......all these powers and principalities...
and so we have a SHOWCASE for GOD'S BETTER WAY of doing all these things......
......
IS ANY OF THIS BIBLICAL?
ARE THESE PROPHETS TRUE PROPHETS?
"The Seven Mountains" Interview with Johnny Enlow
Johnny:
the Seven Mountains prophecy is the message of the Kingdom.
we understand the gospel of salvation....it includes the gospel of salvation, which includes the messages that He's come.....and brought good news.....for individuals He wants to save......and that's......kind of......understanding what He wants to do on the Mountain of Religion, or Worship. which becomes ONE of the Seven Mountains....
Interviewer:
....which is the one that we tend to focus on in church more than anything...
Johnny:
....it's the one we've been doing pretty good...
you know, a couple hundred thousand a day are coming to the Lord...there's 2.2 billion around....and so that part's good....we've got it down - getting people into THE WILDERNESS......from the analogy of Israel headed towards the Promised land.....and......where's there's....you know.....the MINIMAL PROVISION OF THE LORD....manna, and water from rock....
...but He's called us to cross the river Jordan...
....and He says to take Seven Nations greater and mighter than us....The Seven Mountains:
The Mountain of Media; The Mountain of Education; The Mountain of Government; The Mountain of Economy; The Mountain of Family; The Mountain of Arts & Entertainment.....otherwise also known as the celebration of Arts & Entertainment....and of course, the Seventh is the Mountain of Religion or Worship....
....some of those mountains....you know....there are different parts of the body of Christ who don't even believe they are redeemable...those Mountains are redeemable....
....Arts & Entertainment - Jezebel so....and touch with them.....the idea for many is the idea that God just needs to come and burn it all up....
but He does have, uh.....He has an assignment for us....
not just to get people saved...in these mountains...
this is the understanding that takes awhile to adjust to.
....is that we're not just trying to get the people of those sectors of society SAVED...we've always understood that....
....but that the structures themselves are not functioning correctly...they are releasing darkness.
....every one of the structures are releasing darkness, they're polluting society.
....one of the reasons we have so much sickness is because there is pollution, distortion being released from all these sectors of society from Jezebel; from Apollyon; from Leviathon; from Ba'al......all these powers and principalities...
and so we have a SHOWCASE for GOD'S BETTER WAY of doing all these things......
......
IS ANY OF THIS BIBLICAL?
ARE THESE PROPHETS TRUE PROPHETS?
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"I was wearing gold rimmed glasses and a brown leisure suit."
so, before or after you had the visions, once you became a pastor - you bought gold rimmed glasses and a brown leisure suit....right?
"Several people have told me afterwards that I read their mail."
this is a term i hear a lot.
"some folks would tell me about the things I spoke about and said that I ministered distinctly unto them."
when my pastor preaches directly from the word, i often feel the same way
1 Thessalonians 2:13
And we also thank God continually because, when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as a human word, but as it actually is, the word of God, which is indeed at work in you who believe.
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
- "steer off topic for a few moments" i don't know what means...like, God interrupted the sermon to tell you something about someone? dunno
k...thx.
so, before or after you had the visions, once you became a pastor - you bought gold rimmed glasses and a brown leisure suit....right?
"Several people have told me afterwards that I read their mail."
this is a term i hear a lot.
"some folks would tell me about the things I spoke about and said that I ministered distinctly unto them."
when my pastor preaches directly from the word, i often feel the same way
1 Thessalonians 2:13
And we also thank God continually because, when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as a human word, but as it actually is, the word of God, which is indeed at work in you who believe.
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
- "steer off topic for a few moments" i don't know what means...like, God interrupted the sermon to tell you something about someone? dunno
k...thx.
Matthew 7:16-20 [SUP]16 [/SUP]Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? [SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. [SUP]18 [/SUP]A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
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I think to a certain extent, those who are against prophecy being ceased, make the same mistake that Korah made toward Moses in Numbers 16.
They find offense that God would choose to do it back then, but not now. In their mind "all the congregation is holy" so God is bound to do for us now exactly what he did for them. They find it offensive that God revealed himself in past prophecy that is now recorded in scripture for us to read.
They also want to have the same revelations and such. Because "all the congregation is holy". Although the modern version of saying that is, "God isn't a respecter of persons".
We need to be content with the fact that God chose certain people in the past to reveal things to. We need to be content knowing that those revelations are now in scripture. We can't somehow rise up against God and demand he give us those revelations all because "He's not a respecter of persons." He's already given us those revelations. They're in the Bible. Be content with that.
God chose Moses for a certain task. Korah should have been content with that.
Well God chose people in the past for a certain task. That task was receiving the revelations that we now read today. Be content with that and don't demand we have the same happen to us today.
nope - amazed said he was a prophet, and he has a message.
it's right on topic.
he's another false prophet.
i'm still waiting for a true prophet; prophecy...or the names of any.
meanwhile, i think i'll start posting videos and writings of people who are saying they are prophets.
if anyone sees these people posted, and agrees they are true prophets - please take part in the discussion.
if God is sending prophets - WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT HE IS SAYING.
maybe the prophets who discern these others are prophets can tell me how they know it.
IT WON'T BE FROM SCRIPTURE since none of this lines up with Scripture.
so we need extra-biblical back up.
it's right on topic.
he's another false prophet.
i'm still waiting for a true prophet; prophecy...or the names of any.
meanwhile, i think i'll start posting videos and writings of people who are saying they are prophets.
if anyone sees these people posted, and agrees they are true prophets - please take part in the discussion.
if God is sending prophets - WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT HE IS SAYING.
maybe the prophets who discern these others are prophets can tell me how they know it.
IT WON'T BE FROM SCRIPTURE since none of this lines up with Scripture.
so we need extra-biblical back up.