Is baptism Essential for salvation?

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Oh then God did not appoint people to PERFECT THE SAINTS? God says a saint is already without sin... YET they need to be perfected.... EPH 4... See your gospel does not stand TRUE to the WORD OF GOD...

Look here... And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Do you see a perfect man here? One that is made to the FULNESS OF CHRIST.

This is what God does with the BORN OF GOD...




Iron sharpens iron is right. but in the end it is GOD's ministry through us that does that. people dont become apostles or preachers all on their own. That is GOD working through HIS people to get them ready.

Just because a person becomes born again, doesn't mean that they are perfect right then and there.

ever see a baby pushed out of a mothers womb and walk, run, talk english, so on and so forth?

NOPE. Someone had to teach them.

same thing with us as born again believers, someone who is a vessel for GOD teaches, instructs us. Shows us how to read and study and know what is right and wrong.
 
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The Holy Spirit CANNOT SIN.... If God puts the Holy Spirit in a dog, that dog cannot sin, if God put His Spirit in John hte Baptist HE CANNOT SIN, If God puts HIS HOLY SPIRIT IN JESUS, HE CANNOT SIN.... If God PUT HIS HOLY SPIRIT IN JINX, SHE CANNOT SIN...

That seed that REMAINETH in JINX, will make jinx PERFECT! because that SEED IS OF GOD!!!! Jinx is DEAD TO THE FLESH... GONE PASSED AWAY.... As long as JINX is in the flesh she need SALVATION FROM THE FLESH... You need to die off THE FELSH... And once you died off ALL SIN, yuo died to the flesh... And God will put HIS SPIRIT IN THAT FLESH TO GIVE IT A HOLY LIFE.... And living WATERS will flow from that flesh.... LIVING WATERS!!!! Not this dirty water that comes from a body with NO HOLY SPIRIT IN IT, but a sinning human spirit....

OUR flesh is still flesh, and we have to fight the desires to sin every day. That is the comforter. HIS SPIRIT in us giving us that power to over come the flesh.

1Co 15:31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.

Even the writer of Romans said there was a war with in them between the flesh (sinful nature) and the SPIRIT.

Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
 
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oh, so you meant tabernacle when you said "temple." Riiiiiight. LOL.
Tabernacle

Main Entry: tabernacle  [tab-er-nak-uhl] Show IPA
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: church
Synonyms: habitation, house of prayer, niche, reliquary, sanctuary, shelter, shrine, temple, tent

Temple
temple  [tem-puhl]

Part of Speech: noun
Definition: house of worship
Synonyms: cathedral, chapel, church, holy place, house, house of God, house of prayer, mosque, pagoda, pantheon, place of worship, sanctuary, shrine, synagogue, tabernacle

You still haven't answered the two questions.

The terms are synonymous. If you don't mind showing your ignorance in public, no one can assist with that character flaw.
 
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Jinx ALL sinners need to be born of WATER... TRUTH... and of Spirit.... GOD. The born of Water takes time, and that is why we need to come and confess our sins, so that we can pray about them and get DELIVERED from them. Delivered is Cleansing, or forgiveness, AND REMOVAL of that sin... So that we can do this...
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

When Jesus cleansed you from a sin, HE REMOVES IT AS FAR AS THE EAST IS FROM THE WEST FROM YOU... When Jesus did it WITH ALL YOU SIN (unrighteousness) He baptize you with HIMSELF. To then be BORN OF GOD... Jesus DESTROY the works of Satan, and you shall be FREE! If He makes you free, you are free indeed.

Did you notice that sin is talked about in the PAST tense in 1 John 1:10? WE HAVE NOT SINNED? Past tense.
And remember if you read the whole book of 1 John there are two verses that says the opposite... But if you get the complete work of God, you will know that God saves 100%. And he saves us FROM sin, not IN SIN. God saves us to be IN HIM, not IN SIN, and IN HIM IS NO SIN... Only people that are in God and God IN THEM are the saved ones! IF you are in yourself, you are NOT FREE YET! Read John 17, and see how GOD MAKES US PERFECTLY ONE WITH HIM, AND HIM WITH US... PERFECTLY ONE!

Eph 4 also ONE SPIRIT, ONE FATHER....
 
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what are you going to do once you become born again, and you sinned yet again.

What then?
 
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Jinx, you have no idea what born again means.... It means BORN OF GOD.... BORN FROM ABOVE... It is not at the beginning of your walk with God, You have to FOLLOW TO THE END TO BE SAVED... ENDURETH TO THE END...

You have to pick up your cross AND FOLLOW JESUS! He is NOT IN YOU YET! That happens with the Baptism of Holy Ghost... THen JESUS IS BORN INTO YOU, and YOU INTO HIM... At the END of REPENTANCE... When we FINISHED SIN, LEAD out of sin by JESUS!

You die only to self when you died off the last sin in your life... THEN YOU ARE DEAD AND BAPTIZED IN CHRIST! Not when God calls you to be saint! That is the Beginning of your REPENTANCE... The beginning of FOLLOWING JESUS.... WITH YOUR CROSS... TO NAIL YOUR SINNING SELF TO THE CROSS... And once you NAILE ALL OLD JINX THERE, God can resurrect JESUS IN YOU! ONLY THEN! And that is BORN FROM ABOVE... AT THE END OF YOUR REPENTANCE... DIED TO SELF...

The SEED God said... If a corn of wheat does not fall to the ground AND DIE, it cannot bring life! God CANNOT put his Spirit in us before WE DIED OFF SELF... REPENTED FROM ALL SIN LEAD BY THE HOLY GHOST... Lead not MOVED. Once the Holy Spirit is in us, we are holy and perfect.... But we have to die off the OLD ME first!
 
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what are you going to do once you become born again, and you sinned yet again.

What then?
Jinx it is not me that are born into my flesh then, it is JESUS! Paul said it so well.... I DIED ON THE CROSS, ONLY JESUS LIVES IN ME....And God says it best,..... WHOSOEVER IS BORN OF GOD CANNOT SIN.... The wicket toucheth them NOT!!!

Jinx if I am HID in God, Satan sin and evil CANNOT TOUCH ME... I AM IN GOD, IN HIM IS NO SIN... How can I sin if there is none?
 
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There is no what if.... I AM DEAD... ONLY CHRIST LIVES IN ME... Sorry that is what I will be if God is finished with me...
My dear friend it is a SPIRITUAL SWOP.... God puts HIS SPIRIT AND HIS HEART IN THIS FLESH... And apparently even the fleash would LOOK THE SAME, but DEFINATELY NOT ACT THE SAME!!!

God said not even HE PUTS NEW WINE IN AN OLD SACK....The Sack will also be made new...BEHOLD, ALL HAVE BECOME NEW! Even the flesh...Are quickened by that Spirit....
 
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Jinx, you have no idea what born again means.... It means BORN OF GOD.... BORN FROM ABOVE... It is not at the beginning of your walk with God, You have to FOLLOW TO THE END TO BE SAVED... ENDURETH TO THE END...
agrees that we have to endure till the end

You have to pick up your cross AND FOLLOW JESUS! He is NOT IN YOU YET! That happens with the Baptism of Holy Ghost... THen JESUS IS BORN INTO YOU, and YOU INTO HIM... At the END of REPENTANCE... When we FINISHED SIN, LEAD out of sin by JESUS!
Has the baptism of the HOLY GHOST already in her life as Act 2:38 states

You die only to self when you died off the last sin in your life... THEN YOU ARE DEAD AND BAPTIZED IN CHRIST! Not when God calls you to be saint! That is the Beginning of your REPENTANCE... The beginning of FOLLOWING JESUS.... WITH YOUR CROSS... TO NAIL YOUR SINNING SELF TO THE CROSS... And once you NAILE ALL OLD JINX THERE, God can resurrect JESUS IN YOU! ONLY THEN! And that is BORN FROM ABOVE... AT THE END OF YOUR REPENTANCE... DIED TO SELF...
What about Paul when he says "i die daily"??? are you saying I have to be bodily dead before I get the baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT? Is that what your saying? cause that's what it sounds like.

The SEED God said... If a corn of wheat does not fall to the ground AND DIE, it cannot bring life! God CANNOT put his Spirit in us before WE DIED OFF SELF... REPENTED FROM ALL SIN LEAD BY THE HOLY GHOST... Lead not MOVED. Once the Holy Spirit is in us, we are holy and perfect.... But we have to die off the OLD ME first!
hmm....
 
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Jinx I think you would enter into God before me, remember me when you get there. But I think god see me typing Truth to you,... I have this feeling I might be one of the last to enter....

No matter, as long as I do... the first would be last and the last would be first... like the grape pickers...
 
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wut? now your saying my body will die before yours?

do you have a hit on me or something??? LOL
 
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Jinx i cannot pull the things seperate as you do, but Paul preached on all levels. Paul preached to people that heard the Gospel for the first time, and to people already saints.... So Paul .... FILLED WITH HOLY SPIRIT, had no more dieng to do. But on that day Paul became as them and speakin as man to man... on other occasins he could speak to saints, as an apostle...

Paul said many contradiciting things, but they are no really, they are just relevant in the stage of the saved person... Sometimes he spoke to as baies, and sometimes as fully grown men... On different levels on the same compassion of all.

I do not have that gift of teaching yet. I think once the Holy Spirit is in me, and HE WANTS to teach, it would be perfect to every one on his or her level. Only God can do that... I am just a student (disciple) talking to another disciple. And I do not want to argue with you. I love God with all I got, but HIS LOVE has to be perfected in me, and I cannot do that, that is HIS WORK. And I trust Him 100% to complete me.

Jinx I am going back to bed now, but please read all of 1 John, the whole book, then read John 17, the whole chapter... IT IS TWO HANDS OF GOD THAT ENFOLDS US.... You will SEE God's salvation in there, and how special the WORK OF GOD ON US ARE....

I love you as myself, that is why I do not want to hurt you, or lie to you. Just to gain your favour. I am a person in need of God more than most, but I do not doubt for one second, that if God gives you HIS HEART AND SPIRIT, that you JINX would be a pretty perfect person.

May the LOVE OF GOD be in us both to the LEVEL OF HIS SON.... John17... The Glory of JESUS IN US! Amen!
 
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I disagree with your teaching, but wish you a good night sleep any way. everyone needs good sleep :)
 
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see, just like Jinx, in the face of actual Biblical exposition, IN CONTEXT, not just throwing verses around willy nilly, you have to just mock.

Ok, so I assume your question is were Moses and the Israelites baptized in the Red Sea. And my answer is that they were symbolically baptized. It was a type and shadow.

Do you even realize what happened to the baptized Israelites who you think got their salvation through water immersion?

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[SUP]9 [/SUP]When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
[SUP]15 [/SUP]While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
[SUP]19 [/SUP]So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief." - Hebrews 3.

So for all that water in the Red Sea that was baptizing them, they were punished for their unbelief. So what did the magic water you are touting do for them?


It is impossible for OT patriarchs to be baptized. I will only explain this once more to you because I have no obligation beyond two times to do so. Baptism is an entry sign in THE NEW COVENANT. Abraham, Moses and David were dead before the New Covenant was inaugurated by Jesus Christ. You think taking a ritual bath is the same thing - it's not. You do not understand the law, the covenants or the Gospel. This is why you are putting all the emphasis on everything but faith in Jesus Christ. Which is the only way to salvation.

All your points you are making are skirting the main issue. Either baptism is essential for salvation or its not. If you are saying it is essential, you are preaching a false gospel and are a heretic. Period. And if you are not saying it's essential, then more power to you.

Keep relying on your works and what you are doing to please and impress God and you will just sink into deeper and deeper error.
Exodus 14:31 And Israel saw that great work… “What were you saying about works and salvation?” And Moses said unto the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the LORD…” Exodus 14:13.
Concerning what Apostle Paul knew concerning his fathers and Moses being baptized it is written and the Word of G-d is true:

1 Corinthians 10:2; "And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea". Now I and any other sane person at the CC know that they did not "symbolically" pass through the Red Sea, and the cloud "symbolically" covered them. It was a work, a product of faith/belief and the Lord descended upon them in the cloud after their belief and hearing Moses "call" them to enter.

Spiritual and Natural took place simultaneously.

Romans 3:4 … let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written… Paul said they received both baptisms by spirit and water and that settles it. You are wrong so live with your blindness.

Concerning my works, they came after my salvation with baptism and continue in faith unto the Lord. Now I say to you, show me your faith without works. Now listen to my response—The Word speaks my response:

James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

You said; "Answer how Abraham, David, and Moses is saved", I say "For what?" you cannot accept that Moses was baptized by Spirit and Water, proven not from the OT but from the mouth of the Lord’s Apostle Paul in the NT. You think David was dead before there was a Temple in the Nation of Israel, you were proven wrong. Done with that.

You go back and learn a little more about the Word before you attempt to enter into dialogue with me again. In brotherly love I will share some advice with you, it is Bible based and was spoken by Apostle Paul:

This is what you should do concerning the knowledge that you think yourself to possess so you may have a better understanding of "being saved":

Philippians 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,

You really need to get off spiritual milk or change your diaper. LOL sorry but you are blind.

Moving on to more important things. I will pray for you.
 
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You are right. No one was ever saved but by one thing, and that one thing is God's declared judgment to them of life. God's spoken word of judgment, “Let there be life.”

And when they were not saved it was never by anything that they were not saved but by God's declared judgment to them of death. God's spoken word of judgment, “Let life be taken away.”


By God's Word life comes forth and by God's Word life is taken away.

And now hear please God's spoken word and receive understanding of it. All baptisms in any manner are always baptisms of God's spoken word of judgment to either life or to the taking away of lief which means death. Baptism is always in reality about God's spoken Word by his judgment either to life or to end life.

And water has always been used as the symbol of God's spoken word of judgment, either to call forth life and light or to call back that life and light which he gave.


When this earth was formed it was first covered completely by water with God's Spirit, yeh, God's Holy Word “moved upon the face of the waters.”


There at Genesis 1:2, that word, “moved”, comes from a Hebrew word which implies how a hen hovers over her hatchlings as to “brood” them, that life can mature forth for them. Look it up. It is Strong's 7363 rachaph -- a primitive root; to brood His Spirit brooded over the water as his word of judgment calling life from the earth, “Let Life Come to Be.” God's very name means, in the causitive form. “He who causes to become.” But many of you have even obscured that by means of false doctrine.


That water was as the water of a womb of made of God's Word. It was as God's spoken word, “Let life come to be in the earth.”


And God by his spoken word said: Genesis 1:3 “Let there be light: and there was light” Genesis 1:5 “And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night”


And God by his spoken word said: Genesis 1:6 “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” Genesis 1:8 “And God called the firmament Heaven.”


And we see God using His spoken word over and over again throughout Genesis chapter one, yet so many of you refuse to hear God speak.


Upon that that ancient world perishing by water that water represented God's spoken Word of Judgment upon a disobedient world cleansing that world of filth. And that is the comparison we seeing being made at 1 Peter 3:15-22.

Look at it and cease not listening to God you who fear Him. Read it and see that baptism is compared to that water of God's spoken word of judgment upon that disobedient world, cleansing that world of filth.

Wake up!!! See the error that some of you are making. Some of you are saying we are saved BY that water at 1 Peter 3:15-22, when in fact we were saved from that water as it was God's adverse judgment upon a world of unrighteousness, cleansing this earth of filth.
We are saved from God's declared judgment also upon this present world of unrighteousness by God's spoken word declaring life in Christ. And Christ is our Ark of salvation by the Word of God.


1 Peter 3:15 “But sanctify<[make holy] the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water? I think Not! “by” is “dia” -- a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act; through


They were saved through [All of them together in the Ark that is Christ passing through and not perishing with] God's spoken judgment upon an ungodly world (the water of God's Word in the form of judgment) The spoken judgment clearing away of the filth of the flesh.


But, we are saved through [not perishing with it but passing through] God's spoken judgment upon this present world of ungodliness by the water of God's Word declaring life in Christ.


Now understand, please:


21 The like figure [to that Ark being saved through and thus escaping God's judgment upon the world] whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:




22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
What is the point you are attempting to make?
 
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Jinx, did you read 1 John the whole book, and John 17?

Let me share whatI found there in John 17 first... I found Jesus did not pray for the World.... The world CANNOT recieve the Spirit of Truth. God's Spirit. Look Jinx the WORLD cannot! But Jesus says he does pray for those God GAVE HIM. So obviously they are NOT OF THE WORLD! Now get this very clear on your head and heart.... THERE are two groups of people on eath... Those of the WORLD, and another group. One Jesus prays for... they are made up by two groups themselves... The Ones GOD GAVE TO JESUS, and the ones that will BELIEVE ON JESUS THROUGH THEIR WORD...

Also these believers are divided into two groups... Jesus says ANOTHER FLOCK I have also, but they will be made ONE FLOCK... Jews and Gentiles.... They will be made ONE FLOCK... And then Jesus asks Father this...
Verse 21.... That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

AND NOW I CHALLENGE THE WHOLE WORLD TO SHOW ME SIN IN THIS PICTURE....
THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE IN US....AND IN HIM IS NO SIN!!!!

I am from the world, and I will believe God has sent Jesus, if I can see Him in you (who claim He is in you). And that I still have to see! You see, this is the problem I have, I may know the Bible and what it teach even better than MANY who claim to be BORN FORM GOD, but I see no Jesus in them, NONE! Yet I see JESUS VERY clearly in Paul, and Peter, and Samaria and and and and ...

I tell you the Truth, I kid not and I lie not.... THERE IS NO SIN IN A PERSON BORN OF GOD, AND THERE IS NO PERSON IN GOD THAT SIN.... That is what the Bible teach, and that is what I believe...

Jinx remember this.... I DID NOT WRITE THE BIBLE GOD DID.... I only believe the Bible, before I believe ANY MAN WOMAN OR PREACHER.

I know the Bible so well becasue I believe the Bible, and God gives me more to believe EVERY DAY, and it is ALL Truth, but it might not yet be a RIVER OF LIVING WATER that runs from my belly, but it is FILLING ME! This I know, because EVERY DAY I believe more, and recieve more. WORD AND TRUTH that is. Truth and Word are added over time, but the Spirit FALLS on you when TRUTH is the ONLY SUBSTANCE left in you. When all sin and false has died, only TRUTH is in you, and you are MADE FREE by that Truth, and you are READY FOR THE PERFECTION OF THE HOLY GHOST.... Then you are born of WATER, and OF ABOVE.... Completed by God to be ... UNTO A PERFECT MAN...

That is God and His salvation in a short TRUE WORD...
 
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Jesus said to His disciples, YE SHALL DRINK INDEED OF MY CUP (SUFFER FOR HIS NAME SAKE) AND BE BAPTIZED WITH THE BAPTISM THAT I AM BAPTIZED WITH... What baptism was that, they even baptized people with water, and had the water baptism themselves.... so what is this BAPTISM JESUS TALKS ABOUT.... SPIRIT BAPTISM, FROM ABOVE.... This is the BAPTISM THAT SAVES!!!

Paul did not have a baptism of WATER when JESUS FELL ON HIM... And he fell to the ground, was struck with blindness, and then HE WAS BAPTIZED... FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST when ANANIAS layd hands on Him. The blindness was GONE!!! And Saul became Paul...

Saul did not make one disciple, he KILLED many, but Paul did not kill one disciple, he MADE many. Do you see the OPPOSITE way of LIFE?
Yet Paul cannot say he did not sin, Saul sinned plenty. And Saul cannot say he pleased God with his life, But PAul cannot say he displease God with his life, because HE IS ONLY A VESSEL FOR GOD NOW! And GOD did do MANY WONDERS through Paul. Satan killed many Christians through Saul, but God saved many nations through Paul.


Saul was a servant of Satan, doing Satan's will, ONLY SATAN'S WILL. and Paul was a servant of God doing God's will, ONLY GOD'S WILL....


Wow! What the Spirit baptism can do, is just GODLY!
 
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Still believes that water baptism is a commandment from GOD.

Still believes that we are born again per acts 2:38

Still believes that GOD shows mercy to us when we fail HIM and forgives us every time we ask with a pure heart.

doesn't believe that born again means when our body is the ground

doesn't believe in the once saved always saved doctrine.

does believe that after saying all of this, people here will tell me I am damned to a devils hell cause I "have no understanding of what born again means or what the bible says"

Doesn't care what anyone else thinks about my walk.

Does believe that you said you was going back to bed. :)
 
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I did, it is now day here... It was 3AM when i last spoke to you, it is now 8AM.
No one can believe as they like and think it is GOOD! Again you do not even understand what I said... Where did I say our flesh should die? Look at the Spirit baptism in acts 8... Those people were repented.. FINISHED...

God CANNOT give his Spirit to a sinner, NEVER did NEVER will. God gives His Spirit to SAINTS... Acts 2:38 also says what I teach... REPENT.... FINISH REPENTANCE, and be BAPTIZED.... Those people ALL repented and were baptized... WITH SAVE YOUR SELF FROM THIS UNTOWARD GENERATION... THEY DID AND THEY WERE ALL BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, NOT WATER!

Jinx if you had the Spirit of God in you you cannot sin, SORRY that is the truth. If you have not the spirit you will remain sinner and die in sin. If you follow the Spirit you will die IN CHRIST JESUS, and Father will RESURRECT JESUS IN YOU... then you are as holy as Father is holy. Sorry again, that is the Truth.

And now I ask again, did you read those two beautiful Bible Truths? 1 John the whole book, and John 17, the whole prayer? I guess not, you not even shared one little thing God taught you today... I DID!

Jiinx, PLEASE READ THOSE TWO SCRIPTURES WITH A OPEN HEART... You cannot have a pure heart is you still sin.... And God is more than you heart... HE EVEN HEALS AND CLEANSE THE CONSCIENCE AND SOUL AND SPIRIT. The heart soul and Spirit.. Body soul and spirit... ALL GOD SANCTIFY WHOLLY... 1 Thes 5:23... EVEN THE FLESH...

You say you were baptized but you still did not save yourself from the UNTOWARD GENERATION... SINNING WAYS for untoward generation... WIDE PATH.
 
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I did, it is now day here... It was 3AM when i last spoke to you, it is now 8AM.
No one can believe as they like and think it is GOOD! Again you do not even understand what I said... Where did I say our flesh should die? Look at the Spirit baptism in acts 8... Those people were repented.. FINISHED...

God CANNOT give his Spirit to a sinner, NEVER did NEVER will. God gives His Spirit to SAINTS... Acts 2:38 also says what I teach... REPENT.... FINISH REPENTANCE, and be BAPTIZED.... Those people ALL repented and were baptized... WITH SAVE YOUR SELF FROM THIS UNTOWARD GENERATION... THEY DID AND THEY WERE ALL BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, NOT WATER!

Jinx if you had the Spirit of God in you you cannot sin, SORRY that is the truth. If you have not the spirit you will remain sinner and die in sin. If you follow the Spirit you will die IN CHRIST JESUS, and Father will RESURRECT JESUS IN YOU... then you are as holy as Father is holy. Sorry again, that is the Truth.

And now I ask again, did you read those two beautiful Bible Truths? 1 John the whole book, and John 17, the whole prayer? I guess not, you not even shared one little thing God taught you today... I DID!

Jiinx, PLEASE READ THOSE TWO SCRIPTURES WITH A OPEN HEART... You cannot have a pure heart is you still sin.... And God is more than you heart... HE EVEN HEALS AND CLEANSE THE CONSCIENCE AND SOUL AND SPIRIT. The heart soul and Spirit.. Body soul and spirit... ALL GOD SANCTIFY WHOLLY... 1 Thes 5:23... EVEN THE FLESH...

You say you were baptized but you still did not save yourself from the UNTOWARD GENERATION... SINNING WAYS for untoward generation... WIDE PATH.

yes I did read those passages, don't assume I didn't.

as far as me sharing, I have been sharing this entire time, it just doesn't rub you the right way so you tell me I am wrong or lost or both.

and as far as my walk with GOD I obeyed acts 2:38 and Now I live a life where I try and do good, but know that if I mess up I have an advocate in JESUS to repent of my sins again. I don't go around living a life of sin. That isn't what GOD called me to do.

What I do is that I am mindful of my actions and if I mess up, I get on my knees and repent.

I am NOT perfect, ONLY GOD is perfect. I am a sinner saved by GOD grace, living in HIS mercy, Redeemed by HIS blood.