gal 3:10-12 to those who keep looking law ward.

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Galatians 3:10-12 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
 
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People deceive themselves into thinking that they are not under the judgment of the law of Moses, but are required to keep the 10 commandments. IMO, that is either because their faith is weak, or they have no faith at all. We are either justified by faith, or we are justified by the 10 commandments. You can't have it both ways; there is no middle ground. One is life; the other is death. Mixing the two is leaven that corrupts one's whole walk.

For those who are offended or confused by this, ask yourself this question: Which commandment is able to make you righteous or holy?
 
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For those who still have hope in obtaining righteousness through the law look up this passage in its context.

Deuteronomy 27:26 Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.
 
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Through the law man establishes his righteousness. Through grace God establishes His righteousness. Through the law comes the knowledge of sin. Through grace comes the knowledge of eternal life.
This has been constant throughout all of mans history from the garden till today.

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Do you speak of the Commandments of God or the law of Moses?
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
People deceive themselves into thinking that they are not under the judgment of the law of Moses, but are required to keep the 10 commandments. IMO, that is either because their faith is weak, or they have no faith at all. We are either justified by faith, or we are justified by the 10 commandments. You can't have it both ways; there is no middle ground. One is life; the other is death. Mixing the two is leaven that corrupts one's whole walk.

For those who are offended or confused by this, ask yourself this question: Which commandment is able to make you righteous or holy?
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And let's here from a man after God's own heart...

Psa 119:172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.

I gotta go with David on this one.
 
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crossnote said:
For those who still have hope in obtaining righteousness through the law look up this passage in its context.

Deuteronomy 27:26 Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.
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And then add this little gem to that...

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
 
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They are both given by God, but as you point out, they are different.
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i'm sorry i should of directed my question at crossnote, i wanted to be clear what is meant here.
 
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One could go to Deuteronomy 28 that comes right after 27:6..
 
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john832 said:
And let's here from a man after God's own heart...
Psa 119:172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.
I gotta go with David on this one.
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Then you are debtor to the whole law.
 
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john832 said:
And let's here from a man after God's own heart...

Psa 119:172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.

I gotta go with David on this one.
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i love to read of GOD and David's relationship. :)
 
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The saints Keep the Commandments of God and have the Testimony of Yahshua the Messiah.

Ah, is it not so then that the Testimony of Yahshua the Messiah teaches one to Keep the Commandments of God?

Above someone offered Matthew 5:17 to 19
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Then you are debtor to the whole law.
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And?

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Now explain to me what is wrong with keeping the Law?
 
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loveme1 said:
The saints Keep the Commandments of God and have the Testimony of Yahshua the Messiah.

Ah, is it not so then that the Testimony of Yahshua the Messiah teaches one to Keep the Commandments of God?

Above someone offered Matthew 5:17 to 19
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Tremendous insight here. Bravo.
 
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And?

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Now explain to me what is wrong with keeping the Law?
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Jesus said nothing would pass from the law until he fulfilled it. He fulfilled it, and brought in a better law - the law of faith. Those who keep this law do the righteousness required by the 10 commandments. The focus is to be Christ who is righteousness; not the law which requires righteousness, but can't provide it.
 
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Paul wrote to his kinsmen of Israel...Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? The law is of Mt Sinai and is of bondage. Grace is from Jerusalem which is above and free.
Gal 4:9 How turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements? Legalism is the religion of those who do not trust God but themselves.
The sinner serves the flesh because it is his nature to do so. The believer serves the Lord because it is his new nature to do so. Fish do not swim and birds do not fly to prove themselves they do it because it is their nature to do so. The commandments the believer keeps are written in his/her heart by the Lord. The new heart of flesh that replaced the heart of stone. The heart transplant of grace.

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Much error in the idea that the Commandments of God were changed.

It is we the sinner that needs changing from the inside.

That is why we are Baptized in the Holy Spirit to serve in Spirit and Truth.
 
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For those who still have hope in obtaining righteousness through the law look up this passage in its context.

Deuteronomy 27:26 Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.
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I think most people read it, I just think they look over the key word. "ALL"

Anyone who messed up even once, has been cursed by the law, because he has not conformed to ALL the words and done them, thus they have beeen condemned by the law as sinners without hope.
 
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loveme1 said:
Much error in the idea that the Commandments of God were changed.

It is we the sinner that needs changing from the inside.

That is why we are Baptized in the Holy Spirit to serve in Spirit and Truth.
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We are changed. 2 Cor 5:17 The law is not changed. The law is a standard that only One man ever attained to. Those who are the Lord's do not need the law neither are they offended by the law because God has given them a new nature to serve in Spirit and Truth. We are made the righteousness of God in Christ. 2Cor 5:21 We do not discount the law but we do not serve the law. We serve our Christ Who is not to be discounted.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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