Spiritual Warfare - By Bryan Denlinger

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ChosenbyHim

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Spiritual Warfare

By Bryan Denlinger


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homwardbound

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Spiritual warfare is belonging to God and God took care of the fight between flesh and blood, and God's Spirit of life at the cross,
First he by Christ condemned all sin to the flesh, and then came back to life to give us new life in the Spirit of Chirst
[h=3]Romans 6:4[/h]New International Version (NIV)


[SUP]4 [/SUP]We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.


[h=3]Romans 6:11[/h]New International Version (NIV)


[SUP]11 [/SUP]In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.


[h=3]Romans 5:10[/h]New International Version (NIV)


[SUP]10 [/SUP]For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!


[h=3]Romans 7:21-25[/h]New International Version (NIV)

[SUP]21 [/SUP]So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. [SUP]22 [/SUP]For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; [SUP]23 [/SUP]but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. [SUP]24 [/SUP]What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? [SUP]25 [/SUP]Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.






So then consider by God from the death and resurrected Christ, first we are dead to sin nature, and then alive to God by the resurrected Christ, being right now born again in the Spirit of God, and serving God in Spirit and truth
John 4:23
Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
John 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”
Pretty simple yes, which is difficult for flesh self to give up, but if it is not given up and considered dead by the death, then how can one come back to life, if one does not believe that by Christ's death they also are dead to sin?
 

ChosenbyHim

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Spiritual warfare is belonging to God and God took care of the fight between flesh and blood, and God's Spirit of life at the cross,
First he by Christ condemned all sin to the flesh, and then came back to life to give us new life in the Spirit of Chirst
[h=3]Romans 6:4[/h]New International Version (NIV)


[SUP]4 [/SUP]We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.


[h=3]Romans 6:11[/h]New International Version (NIV)


[SUP]11 [/SUP]In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.


[h=3]Romans 5:10[/h]New International Version (NIV)


[SUP]10 [/SUP]For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!


[h=3]Romans 7:21-25[/h]New International Version (NIV)

[SUP]21 [/SUP]So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. [SUP]22 [/SUP]For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; [SUP]23 [/SUP]but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. [SUP]24 [/SUP]What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? [SUP]25 [/SUP]Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.


So then consider by God from the death and resurrected Christ, first we are dead to sin nature, and then alive to God by the resurrected Christ, being right now born again in the Spirit of God, and serving God in Spirit and truth
John 4:23
Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
John 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”
Pretty simple yes, which is difficult for flesh self to give up, but if it is not given up and considered dead by the death, then how can one come back to life, if one does not believe that by Christ's death they also are dead to sin?


Spiritual warfare has to do with our thought life homwardbound. If you want power in your spiritual life then you will need to

1) Keep the Book, the word of God and God first place in your life. And when I say the word of God, I am talking about the Authorized King James Bible. Since it is the Book that God has blessed.

2) Have God in all your thoughts.

3) And take every thought captive to the obedience of christ.

Ephesians 6:10-20 KJV
Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. [11] Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. [12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places . [13] Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. [14] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; [15] And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; [16] Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. [17] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: [18] Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, [20] For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
 

homwardbound

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Spiritual warfare has to do with our thought life homwardbound. If you want power in your spiritual life then you will need to

1) Keep the Book, the word of God and God first place in your life. And when I say the word of God, I am talking about the Authorized King James Bible. Since it is the Book that God has blessed.

2) Have God in all your thoughts.

3) And take every thought captive to the obedience of christ.

Ephesians 6:10-20 KJV
Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. [11] Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. [12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places . [13] Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. [14] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; [15] And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; [16] Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. [17] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: [18] Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, [20] For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
Where did I say anything different except your pointing out KJV only syndrome that you seem to be stuck on as the only way, truth and Life to Father
Jesus Christ and Father are not FIRST in my life, nor second or third
Jesus Christ and Father are my life, hope you get it and many others as well, whether they read the KJV or not
So please tell me since I do not adhere to the KJV as you do, am I saved? In Your Opinion
I am not here to fight you if you say I am not, I just want your honest opinion please. Thanks in advance
 

homwardbound

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Spiritual warfare has to do with our thought life homwardbound. If you want power in your spiritual life then you will need to

1) Keep the Book, the word of God and God first place in your life. And when I say the word of God, I am talking about the Authorized King James Bible. Since it is the Book that God has blessed.

2) Have God in all your thoughts.

3) And take every thought captive to the obedience of christ.

Ephesians 6:10-20 KJV
Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. [11] Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. [12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places . [13] Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. [14] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; [15] And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; [16] Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. [17] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: [18] Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, [20] For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
Oh and I want no Spiritual power of my own ever as I have had, I gave that up for God, God is the power behind the throne through Christ, and I rest there in God thanks to Son's finished work at the cross, for all who believe, and God knows who those are and are not, even if they say they are, HMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what's up with that? Not being sarcastic or attacking just pointing out what God is and has shown to all via the cross, where forgiven is at and then life by the resurrection forever a one time event to bring us the lost back home, and then are lost no more after belief that never leave, because of the awesomeness of God's love
1 John 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us.
 

ChosenbyHim

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Where did I say anything different except your pointing out KJV only syndrome that you seem to be stuck on as the only way, truth and Life to Father
Jesus Christ and Father are not FIRST in my life, nor second or third
Jesus Christ and Father are my life, hope you get it and many others as well, whether they read the KJV or not
So please tell me since I do not adhere to the KJV as you do, am I saved? In Your Opinion
I am not here to fight you if you say I am not, I just want your honest opinion please. Thanks in advance
I believe you are saved homwardbound, but here is the thing. The Bible Version Issue is not a salvation issue. There are many Christians out there who ignorantly use the modern versions. But if you have been shown the Bible Version Issue, then you need to do the right thing and submit to the Authority of God's word, which is the Authorized King James Bible. God is not going to fully bless you if you are using a catholic/Vatican version.

There is only one Bible today on the market that can be traced back to Antioch.

All other bible versions on the market; you know like the NIV, ESV, NASB, LB, etc. Are traced back to Rome.

Seriously Homward, study the Bible Version Issue. It is the most important issue that Christians face these days.

You want to have power in your Christian life? Then you are going to need to read and believe the King James Bible.
 

homwardbound

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I believe you are saved homwardbound, but here is the thing. The Bible Version Issue is not a salvation issue. There are many Christians out there who ignorantly use the modern versions. But if you have been shown the Bible Version Issue, then you need to do the right thing and submit to the Authority of God's word, which is the Authorized King James Bible. God is not going to fully bless you if you are using a catholic/Vatican version.

There is only one Bible today on the market that can be traced back to Antioch.

All other bible versions on the market; you know like the NIV, ESV, NASB, LB, etc. Are traced back to Rome.

Seriously Homward, study the Bible Version Issue. It is the most important issue that Christians face these days.

You want to have power in your Christian life? Then you are going to need to read and believe the King James Bible.
Thanks for your concern, and thanks for telling me your concern, I do not see it the way you do exactly,

Colossians 2:20 Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules:

Ephesians 6:13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.
Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

You are allowed to read whatever you choose to read as your final version and none other and I am allowed to read which ever version I choose or not choose, I am not giving man credit for anything. God credit for all things.

Tell me Who is Christ to you?
Is Christ the Messiah?
What is the only way to go to Heaven? Or is there more than one way?
How did Christ come to this earth?
What was his purpose in dying?
What was the purpose in him being resurrected

Are we forgiven 100% of the time by Christ, and from what or who's vantage point is this true, if you believe this is true?
 
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I believe you are saved homwardbound, but here is the thing. The Bible Version Issue is not a salvation issue. There are many Christians out there who ignorantly use the modern versions. But if you have been shown the Bible Version Issue, then you need to do the right thing and submit to the Authority of God's word, which is the Authorized King James Bible. God is not going to fully bless you if you are using a catholic/Vatican version.

There is only one Bible today on the market that can be traced back to Antioch.

All other bible versions on the market; you know like the NIV, ESV, NASB, LB, etc. Are traced back to Rome.

Seriously Homward, study the Bible Version Issue. It is the most important issue that Christians face these days.

You want to have power in your Christian life? Then you are going to need to read and believe the King James Bible.
Spiritual warfare is a serious subject that our Lord wants everyone who loves Him to understand, for it is powerful today. We see it on CC. The forces are lining up. There are people, right here on CC who face death in Arabia because they are Christian. There are MISSIONARIES!! who say that people who worship a God with another name and with other attributes, a false God, is a true God, they should only accept Jesus, too. That is not biblical, a god with another name and other attributes is a false God.

There are two ways to spot the people working for the other side, for some of them lie to us and sometimes even to themselves about who they are working for. Right now God is sending Jews to the Holy Land. Satan is doing all he can to prevent this. The Jews going there have no idea of why or how, many don't even include God in their lives. But this is the way God is working. When you see anyone opposing God in this, Christian or Muslim, they are working for the other side. Also, many Christians used by Satan express hate in their talk. That is how we are to know them, and we are not to fight them personally, but fight the spiritual forces working in them. Many of these people are completely unaware they are helping Satan. Some even think their hate talk is defending what is right as Satan works through them in hatefulness.

And with these serious issues going on you go on about the trivia of the KJV!! It was ordered by a king deep in fighting witches that he believed in. God was with those 37 men who translated it, but it was 37 MEN. It was done in Shakespeare's Old English. It was a marvelous translation with the poetry of Shakespeare. So get over it!! God used it, God is also with others who translate. God is using others, too. We are not to be stumbling blocks to the growth of other's spirit, and by your saying this trivia has great importance, you are a stumbling block. Keep your KJV, let others learn God's word pleasing God, not you.
 

ChosenbyHim

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Spiritual warfare is a serious subject that our Lord wants everyone who loves Him to understand, for it is powerful today. We see it on CC. The forces are lining up. There are people, right here on CC who face death in Arabia because they are Christian. There are MISSIONARIES!! who say that people who worship a God with another name and with other attributes, a false God, is a true God, they should only accept Jesus, too. That is not biblical, a god with another name and other attributes is a false God.

There are two ways to spot the people working for the other side, for some of them lie to us and sometimes even to themselves about who they are working for. Right now God is sending Jews to the Holy Land. Satan is doing all he can to prevent this. The Jews going there have no idea of why or how, many don't even include God in their lives. But this is the way God is working. When you see anyone opposing God in this, Christian or Muslim, they are working for the other side. Also, many Christians used by Satan express hate in their talk. That is how we are to know them, and we are not to fight them personally, but fight the spiritual forces working in them. Many of these people are completely unaware they are helping Satan. Some even think their hate talk is defending what is right as Satan works through them in hatefulness.

And with these serious issues going on you go on about the trivia of the KJV!! It was ordered by a king deep in fighting witches that he believed in. God was with those 37 men who translated it, but it was 37 MEN. It was done in Shakespeare's Old English. It was a marvelous translation with the poetry of Shakespeare. So get over it!! God used it, God is also with others who translate. God is using others, too. We are not to be stumbling blocks to the growth of other's spirit, and by your saying this trivia has great importance, you are a stumbling block. Keep your KJV, let others learn God's word pleasing God, not you.
RedTent, yes ma'am the subject of spiritual warefare is tremendously important. We have spiritual warfare going on all the time. There are a lot of things that Satan is doing these last days to bring in his new world order and the antichrist. You can see this with the witchcraft and contempletive prayer that is moving into the churches, the rock music that has infiltrated the churches. Also then we have the new catholic versions that have been brought into the churches. And instead of pastors preaching the word of God, they are now preaching the purpose driven life, and then you have the emergent church movement infiltrating the churches, and then there is the ecumenical movement that's wants to bring everybody together at the expense of truth and Bible Doctrine. And then there is the Hebrew Roots Movement and the Sacred Name Movement, and then the Charisnatic movement where they teach the heretical teaching of slain in the spirit, you may be wondering where does it end? And it is only getting worse. The apostacy and the falling away that the Bible talks about in 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

And as for the King James Bible, I will continue to defend it RedTent, because one of the main causes of the falling away is the modern Vatican versions. We are in the dark age all over again. Instead of the Catholic priests holding the control over the laity, now it is the preachers(protestant popes) holding the control over the laity in the churches since they have knowledge of the original Greek.

Furthermore RedTent, the Bible Version Issue is an issue of Final Written Authority. There it is the most important issue facing Christians today. Also, this Bible Version Issue is not about me, it is about Final Authority. Therefore I will continue to defend Final Authority because I am aware of the Satanic philosophy of the New Version and Alexandrian movement. The Alexandrian philosophy is that no Bible is perfect, and that there is no Final Authority at all. The New Version advocates do not believe that the new versions are perfect, and neither do they believe that the King James Bible is perfect. So the Alexandrian promoters are not submitting to the Authority of the Word of God, but rather they base their preferences and feelings as the standard of truth. And that mentality is out right Satanic.

The beliefs of a King James Bible believer is that the King James Bible is perfect and that the new versions are in error. Therefore, we King James Bible believers defend Final Written Authority.
 
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RedTent, yes ma'am the subject of spiritual warefare is tremendously important. We have spiritual warfare going on all the time. There are a lot of things that Satan is doing these last days to bring in his new world order and the antichrist. You can see this with the witchcraft and contempletive prayer that is moving into the churches, the rock music that has infiltrated the churches. Also then we have the new catholic versions that have been brought into the churches. And instead of pastors preaching the word of God, they are now preaching the purpose driven life, and then you have the emergent church movement infiltrating the churches, and then there is the ecumenical movement that's wants to bring everybody together at the expense of truth and Bible Doctrine. And then there is the Hebrew Roots Movement and the Sacred Name Movement, and then the Charisnatic movement where they teach the heretical teaching of slain in the spirit, you may be wondering where does it end? And it is only getting worse. The apostacy and the falling away that the Bible talks about in 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

And as for the King James Bible, I will continue to defend it RedTent, because one of the main causes of the falling away is the modern Vatican versions. We are in the dark age all over again. Instead of the Catholic priests holding the control over the laity, now it is the preachers(protestant popes) holding the control over the laity in the churches since they have knowledge of the original Greek.

Furthermore RedTent, the Bible Version Issue is an issue of Final Written Authority. There it is the most important issue facing Christians today. Also, this Bible Version Issue is not about me, it is about Final Authority. Therefore I will continue to defend Final Authority because I am aware of the Satanic philosophy of the New Version and Alexandrian movement. The Alexandrian philosophy is that no Bible is perfect, and that there is no Final Authority at all. The New Version advocates do not believe that the new versions are perfect, and neither do they believe that the King James Bible is perfect. So the Alexandrian promoters are not submitting to the Authority of the Word of God, but rather they base their preferences and feelings as the standard of truth. And that mentality is out right Satanic.

The beliefs of a King James Bible believer is that the King James Bible is perfect and that the new versions are in error. Therefore, we King James Bible believers defend Final Written Authority.
I truly think that you are looking in the wrong places for where Satan is working. It is in our news media, in filling young minds through TV and movies, through people in our churches not incorporating God in their daily doings on Mon.,Tues. etc Our brothers and sisters need to be more conscious of God in control and our need to fit into God's plan for us. To put on the entire armor of God.

Looking at bible translations, in churches that are trying to follow God as close as they understand Him even if you don't agree, in many of the ways you list is simply side tracking the real battle. If a church is using the whole scripture and only scripture as a text, we must not interfere, we are not God. Put that thought and effort into such as the Muslims who are saying their God is God but with a different name and different attributes. Or in pagan ideas coming in our churches from pagan Gods. Look at South America and voodoo. Or voodoo in our churches in the southern states of America.

I think if your efforts were put to opening God's children to the necessity of putting scripture and God in their life even as they are driving to work, getting up in the morning, you would be working so there would be signs following. Your way is on the negatives, the "don't do". We need more of the "do".
 

ChosenbyHim

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Thanks for your concern, and thanks for telling me your concern, I do not see it the way you do exactly,

Colossians 2:20 Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules:

Ephesians 6:13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.
Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

You are allowed to read whatever you choose to read as your final version and none other and I am allowed to read which ever version I choose or not choose, I am not giving man credit for anything. God credit for all things.

Tell me Who is Christ to you?
Is Christ the Messiah?
What is the only way to go to Heaven? Or is there more than one way?
How did Christ come to this earth?
What was his purpose in dying?
What was the purpose in him being resurrected

Are we forgiven 100% of the time by Christ, and from what or who's vantage point is this true, if you believe this is true?
Absolutely Homwardbound, you are welcome sir. And I understand we may not ever come to an agreement over this issue. And of course, you may see it differently, and again I understand that. But I just want to encourage you that there is a perfect Final Authority on this planet. And that you can believe that the King James Bible indeed is God's perfect word. And if you still decide to read and use the new versions after seeing the Bible Version Issue, well then that is your choice.

The Lord Jesus to me is the King of kings and the Lord of lords, just as the Bible says.

Yes Jesus Christ is the Messiah.

Jesus is the only way to Heaven.

Jesus Christ came to this earth by way of being sent from His heavenly Father and born of a virgin by the power of the Holy Ghost. The purpose of His death on the cross was to make an atonement for the sins of mankind. To reconcile us back to the Father. The purpose of His resurrection was to make our resurrection to eternal life sure. Plus, our eternal life and salvation came about by the resurrection of Christ.


1 Corinthians 15:12-23 KJV
Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? [13] But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: [14] And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. [15] Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. [16] For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: [17] And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. [18] Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. [19] If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. [20] But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. [21] For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. [22] For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. [23] But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Romans 8:29 KJV
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.


We are forgiven of all sins and trespasses at the instant we get saved. When we obtain salvation from the Lord.

Colossians 2:13 KJV
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;


1 John 1:7 KJV
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
 

Agricola

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I have a question, does the Cult of King James Only work on spiritual points basis, rather like JWs etc, where the more you post about King James Only and "spread the word" you get spiritual points which you can cash in after you die? Only the ferocity and relentless repetition of the cuts rhetoric is almost exhausting, as in the inability to engage in any meaningful discussion or topic which shows how wrong King James Only Cult and the thinking behind it is.
 

ChosenbyHim

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I truly think that you are looking in the wrong places for where Satan is working. It is in our news media, in filling young minds through TV and movies, through people in our churches not incorporating God in their daily doings on Mon.,Tues. etc Our brothers and sisters need to be more conscious of God in control and our need to fit into God's plan for us. To put on the entire armor of God.

Looking at bible translations, in churches that are trying to follow God as close as they understand Him even if you don't agree, in many of the ways you list is simply side tracking the real battle. If a church is using the whole scripture and only scripture as a text, we must not interfere, we are not God. Put that thought and effort into such as the Muslims who are saying their God is God but with a different name and different attributes. Or in pagan ideas coming in our churches from pagan Gods. Look at South America and voodoo. Or voodoo in our churches in the southern states of America.

I think if your efforts were put to opening God's children to the necessity of putting scripture and God in their life even as they are driving to work, getting up in the morning, you would be working so there would be signs following. Your way is on the negatives, the "don't do". We need more of the "do".
Yes RedTent, I do believe that Satan works through the liberal news media as well. But Satan operates mainly in churches. Why? Because he is subtil. Therefore Satan's very own ministers are subtil and very deceptive.


2 Corinthians 11:13-15 KJV
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. [14] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. [15] Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

And in regard to the Bible translations, the real battle and issue is over Final Authority. Satan's very first words that were recorded in the Scripture were "yea, hath God said,..?"

Satan questioned the word of God and got Eve to doubt the word of God. And by Satan causing Eve to doubt the word of God, then the decision she and her husband made led to the fall of mankind. Just by Satan causing Eve to doubt the word of God. That is why the Bible Version Issue is the most important issue facing Christians today. Because again it is an issue over Final Authority.

And yea, in regard to what you mentioned about the tv and movies being used by Satan to capture the minds of the young people. I agree there, that is true. Before Helliwood puts out a movie, they send it to the Propaganda room that is in the Pentagon. Television today is all about mindcontrol. So yeah indeed, Satan also is definitely using Hollywood and television.
 

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SO its ok to teach whatever in churches as long as they use the King James?
 
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I have read the KJ version and the NIV together, and there are no significant differences in the teaching that comes from either one.
 
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It is too bad this thread has split into two subjects, spiritual warfare and KJV only. I am going to not discuss KJV only and try to stay on point with spiritual warfare (SW) only.


SW is a an important topic but only for the Christians who need it. Many Christians do not need Sw because they are essentially doing things that do not worry satan. SW only comes to those who are a threat to satan. These are people who are saving souls, praying for the lost, praying for miracles and doing God's will actively. The pew sitters who go to church every Sunday and forget the message on Monday, don't pray, don't read the bible and act like the rest of the world have no need for SW because satan has limited resources. He only goes after those who might be a threat to him.

So if you are a christian and everything is going great for you, money in the bank, healthy, etc, ..maybe you are doing something wrong or not doing the things you should be for God. satan loves a lazy lukewarm christian.
 
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It is too bad this thread has split into two subjects, spiritual warfare and KJV only. I am going to not discuss KJV only and try to stay on point with spiritual warfare (SW) only.


SW is a an important topic but only for the Christians who need it. Many Christians do not need SP because they are essentially doing things that do not worry satan. SW only comes to those who are a threat to satan. These are people who are saving souls, praying for the lost, praying for miracles and doing God's will actively. The pew sitters who go to church every Sunday and forget the message on Monday, don't pray, don't read the bible and act like the rest of the world have no need for SW because satan has limited resources. He only goes after those who might be a threat to him.

So if you are a christian and everything is going great for you, money in the bank, healthy, etc, ..maybe you are doing something wrong or not doing the things you should be for God.
Yes!! It is putting on the armor of the Lord on all the days of the week that count, and being available and willing for the Lords work, and arming ourselves with a brain full of His word!

We can be aware of what is wrong, but as Christians it shouldn't be part of the main part of our thinking, it isn't part of our world on the narrow path the Lord has laid out for us. The 23rd psalm explains our world. As we fill our days with praise and joy in the Lord we are also being part of the winning side of the battle. We give helping hands, we encourage, we keep our eye on the Lord. We are to lead to truth, not beat someone down.
 
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It is too bad this thread has split into two subjects, spiritual warfare and KJV only. I am going to not discuss KJV only and try to stay on point with spiritual warfare (SW) only.


SW is a an important topic but only for the Christians who need it. Many Christians do not need Sw because they are essentially doing things that do not worry satan. SW only comes to those who are a threat to satan. These are people who are saving souls, praying for the lost, praying for miracles and doing God's will actively. The pew sitters who go to church every Sunday and forget the message on Monday, don't pray, don't read the bible and act like the rest of the world have no need for SW because satan has limited resources. He only goes after those who might be a threat to him.

So if you are a christian and everything is going great for you, money in the bank, healthy, etc, ..maybe you are doing something wrong or not doing the things you should be for God. satan loves a lazy lukewarm christian.
Sounds pretty high minded to me and far from what scripture says...1 Peter 1. you also sound like your using
a religious rhetoric to bolster your view...to me anyway.

Yes SW is important...but ought to be completely biblical.
 
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Sounds pretty high minded to me and far from what scripture says...1 Peter 1. you also sound like your using
a religious rhetoric to bolster your view...to me anyway.

Yes SW is important...but ought to be completely biblical.
Ephesians chapter 6:10-20 works for me. Let's add 1 Peter 5:8 also.
 
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