Sat or Sun or whenever does give the servants one day of rest whereas some bosses thru greed would have them work 7 days/wk. It's protection if nothing else...good for society.
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Hmmm, neither will the KJV only issue but to each his own. At least I provided scripture for my conviction that Jesus is our Sabbath ...especially since He is the fulfillment of Torah.
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I am sure the same happened in Israel. And why God removed his protection from him (one of the many reasons) Greed will cause a nation to collapse.
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I guess some just do not trust God. so all they have is self. Just in case.. Thats why they will never find rest.
Jesus is no sinner!
The 4th Commandment was in force then and it's in force now.
Jesus was accused of Sabbath breaking & Blastpheme. He was innocent of both charges.
But it seems you have made the Savior a mere sinner! Simply Amazing!
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I know its improper christian rhetoric......but Rachel....your amazing
HeRoseFromTheDead....your amazing also but.....He was the Lord of the Sabbath. He was that rest. Fulfilled!
Come unto Me all who labor and are heavy laden and I will give you rest.....
HeRoseFromTheDead....your amazing also but.....He was the Lord of the Sabbath. He was that rest. Fulfilled!
Come unto Me all who labor and are heavy laden and I will give you rest.....
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I know its improper christian rhetoric......but Rachel....your amazing
HeRoseFromTheDead....your amazing also but.....He was the Lord of the Sabbath. He was that rest. Fulfilled!
Come unto Me all who labor and are heavy laden and I will give you rest.....
Nicely said Abiding....in Him, we have our rest from works, just as He rested from His works.....
Very cool thread!
well.....i saw all the you're amazing...you're amazing...and was about to post AHEM.
then i saw this post.
jklove you bud
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well.....i saw all the you're amazing...you're amazing...and was about to post AHEM.
then i saw this post.
love you bud
Well everytime i tell you how amazing you are you run off into the woods. right?
So im forced to make small gestures. Cuz im tired of you running off into the woods
not kidden,
Love u too Budess
Well that's the best response I've heard yet. The sabbath law was still in effect, but those whom the lord had set apart for his use were held blameless if they did profane the sabbath, just as the priests were held blameless for working on the sabbaths. That included the lord himself.
Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless? But I say unto you, That in this place is [one] greater than the temple. Matthew 12:5-6
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Come on someone has to like post #30. If i ever had a gift
in play its making woman run off into the woods
in play its making woman run off into the woods
Well everytime i tell you how amazing you are you run off into the woods. right?
So im forced to make small gestures. Cuz im tired of you running off into the woods
not kidden,
Love u too Budess
pssst... hey bud... I saw the chocolate heart thing... yer usin' the wrong bait...
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eternally-gratefull
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Well everytime i tell you how amazing you are you run off into the woods. right?
So im forced to make small gestures. Cuz im tired of you running off into the woods
not kidden,
Love u too Budess
Just don;t get her upset. You heard what happened when a guy ran her off the road!!
JESUS WAS ALSO ACCUSED OF SABBATH BREAKING.
Why, if He wanted to be our "example" in Sabbath keeping didn't He make it clear that He was not breaking the Sabbath? Instead He clearly admits to it. He also admits that His disciples were breaking the Sabbath and He defends them. Read Matthew 12:1- 14 carefully. Jesus is clearly saying that His disciples are like the priests who may work in the temple every Sabbath and be innocent of breaking the Sabbath. When Jesus says that He is "Lord of the Sabbath" He is declaring that He is above the Sabbath. He may do what He wishes on the Sabbath and therefore His disciples may do whatever they wish as well.
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Why, if He wanted to be our "example" in Sabbath keeping didn't He make it clear that He was not breaking the Sabbath? Instead He clearly admits to it. He also admits that His disciples were breaking the Sabbath and He defends them. Read Matthew 12:1- 14 carefully. Jesus is clearly saying that His disciples are like the priests who may work in the temple every Sabbath and be innocent of breaking the Sabbath. When Jesus says that He is "Lord of the Sabbath" He is declaring that He is above the Sabbath. He may do what He wishes on the Sabbath and therefore His disciples may do whatever they wish as well.
The Sabbath & Sunday
Apparently Jesus did break the Sabbath: "Therefore some of the Pharisees were saying, "This man is not from God, because He does not keep the Sabbath."..." John 9:15. If Jesus did not want us to understand that He was breaking the Sabbath why did He not speak against these accusations. It's because Jesus had the right and the authority to break the Sabbath because He is Lord of the Sabbath. The Sabbath does not bind Him. Think about this, if it does not bind Him, are we not "in Christ"? Why would it be any more binding upon us. (Again Read Matthew 12:1-14 carefully).
One of the issues that needs to be honestly faced is the fact that Jesus never commanded anyone to keep the Sabbath and none of His apostles ever commanded anyone to keep it either.
Not once in the New Testament are we told to keep the Sabbath. Those commands to the Church are conspicuously absent from the teachings of the New Testament
The Sabbath & Sunday
One of the issues that needs to be honestly faced is the fact that Jesus never commanded anyone to keep the Sabbath and none of His apostles ever commanded anyone to keep it either.
Not once in the New Testament are we told to keep the Sabbath. Those commands to the Church are conspicuously absent from the teachings of the New Testament
The Sabbath & Sunday
the next thing you gotta do is get with my trainer... she heads into the woods again? nuthin' to it, piece of cake...
EVERY MENTION OF THE SABBATH IN THE BOOK OF ACTS without a single exception is in connection with Jewish worship on that day and not Christian celebration. Paul's evangelistic strategy was to go to the Jews first in a community and share the Gospel with them. Sabbath is the day when he knew he would find the most Jews gathering for worship. He knew he would have his best opportunity of sharing the good news of the Messiah to the Jews on Sabbath. It was not because he was meeting with a group of believing Christians. He was meeting with non-Christian Jews.
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again...i'll sound the warning:
the Hebrew Roots Movement is leading people into apostasy.
this is NOT accidental.
The Sabbath & Sunday
again...i'll sound the warning:
the Hebrew Roots Movement is leading people into apostasy.
this is NOT accidental.
IS THE TEN COMMANDMENT LAW ETERNAL?
No, the Law is not eternal. Galatians 3:19 gives the purpose of the Law. It says: "What, then, was the purpose of he law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come."
The law was given 430 years after Abraham. "What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise." Galatians 3:17-18.
The Law had a definite beginning time (430 years after Abraham) and a definite ending time, --When the promised Seed (Christ, vs. 16) came.
Other Scriptures such as Romans 5:12-14 indicate that there can be sin in the world, even BEFORE the Law was given. "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned -- for until the Law sin was in the world; but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of Adam's offense, who is a type of Him who was to come."
The Sabbath & Sunday
No, the Law is not eternal. Galatians 3:19 gives the purpose of the Law. It says: "What, then, was the purpose of he law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come."
The law was given 430 years after Abraham. "What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise." Galatians 3:17-18.
The Law had a definite beginning time (430 years after Abraham) and a definite ending time, --When the promised Seed (Christ, vs. 16) came.
Other Scriptures such as Romans 5:12-14 indicate that there can be sin in the world, even BEFORE the Law was given. "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned -- for until the Law sin was in the world; but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of Adam's offense, who is a type of Him who was to come."
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CREATION & THE SABBATH: The Scriptures are very clear that the Sabbath of the fourth commandment was not given before Moses:
The Ten Commandments was not made with the fathers. Deuteronomy 5:2-3 says
"The Lord our God made a covenant with us at Horeb. The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, with all those of us alive here today."
Nehemiah 9:13-14 says: "You came down on Mount Sinai; you spoke to them from heaven. You gave them regulations and laws that are just and right, and decrees and commands that are good. You made known to them your holy sabbath and gave them commands, decrees and laws through your servant Moses." (NIV).
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The Ten Commandments was not made with the fathers. Deuteronomy 5:2-3 says
"The Lord our God made a covenant with us at Horeb. The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, with all those of us alive here today."
Nehemiah 9:13-14 says: "You came down on Mount Sinai; you spoke to them from heaven. You gave them regulations and laws that are just and right, and decrees and commands that are good. You made known to them your holy sabbath and gave them commands, decrees and laws through your servant Moses." (NIV).
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