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Bryancampbell

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If atheists don't believe in God, then why do they get mad at Him?
If atheists don't think He is real, then why do they blame him for everything?
If people can't tolerate other religious views other than their own, why do they hold to a position thats high in their own belief?
If people originated with or from monkeys, why then isn't it fully proven to be not a theory?
Why do they call it a theory, but still teach it through books and school?
I don't understand???????
 
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I used to consider myself an atheist. I didn't believe in God, the Bible, heaven, you know, the usual atheist stuff. I can tell you, when God saved me, I definitely was not looking for Him. After studying the Bible for some time, I realized there is no such thing as an atheist. People know just enough about God to hate Him and shake their fist at Him, so to speak (Romans 3). The hate towards God is so fierce, it causes people to deny His very existence. Does that make sense?

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Matthew 16:27. "For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels; and will then recompense every man according to his deeds.
28 "Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who shall not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." Then they will believe:)
 
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Need2Know

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Like I said in an earlier thread, there are thousands of other gods that you don't believe in either.

So you know exactly what it's like to not believe in a god.

Why are atheists even given a collective name? There's not a name for someone who doesn't believe in Dragons or werewolves. People also try to say Atheism
Is a religion in itself. Not true. Does not collecting stamps count as a hobby?

Atheists don't hate god, they don't even believe in a god. Most non believers I know aren't agnostic. The don't hedge their bets and say they'd believe If they had evidence. A lot of atheists don't believe at all and HOPE that's it's not true. There is no hated for god. There is hatred for people who commit Dispicable acts and think they are justified in doing so by saying its in gods name.

They hate acts like 911 because they were Commited in the name
Of a deity. And people think they are empowered to do these things because they believe they have god on their side. An atheist wishes there was a flashing moment before a terrorist dies where they realise it was nonsens and they bought an empty bag of goods.

Atheists believe religion has no ethics or moral value. Because you can commit almost any crime or 'sin' and as long as you repent you'll be forgiven and all is well. Where is The responsibility or
Accountability?

An atheist can take pride in himself in his achievements and hold himself accountable for his wrongdoings. He seeks strength from inside and not from above.

Good people do good things and bad people do bad things. To make a good person do a bad thing you need religion.
 
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Bryancampbell

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Well I highly respect different cultures or religions, but for an atheist to not like 911 for religious reasons isn't an excuse. Just because one radical group did something in the name of God, the religion don't deserve a bad name or reputation. Just like the crusades...those were not done by truth so...I don't like it when people pin that on Christians. Muslims shouldn't be treated bad for what these dumbo did....they are actually quite peaceful people. My friend is a devout Muslim but nothing compared to these people. And I never once debated or fought with him about our beliefs...it actually brought us closer as friends
 
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James2v18

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Christians developed the first Hospitals, the University System, the Schools System. Do atheists appreciate them? The Crusades cause was defensive. A defense for religious freedom was the cause. Muslims were killing those that would not convert. Some evil people did bad things during the Crusades, but the purpose was a nobel cause. It's easy to say the cause was evil when you have never read about them or researched them.
 
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Bryancampbell

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James2v18 said:
Christians developed the first Hospitals, the University System, the Schools System. Do atheists appreciate them? The Crusades cause was defensive. A defense for religious freedom was the cause. Muslims were killing those that would not convert. Some evil people did bad things during the Crusades, but the purpose was a nobel cause. It's easy to say the cause was evil when you have never read about them or researched them.
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It errks me when you say Muslims, when not all Muslims are like that at all....That's like saying Christians are haters of homosexuals and bible thumpers....
 
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James2v18

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All religions are not the same, nor all denominations of Christianity. There is only one thing that is the truth, so there can only be one religion that has the truth when those religions disagree. Some think they are right but are honesty mistaken. Some are made up by men for their own purposes. Which can be evil.
 
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James2v18

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I was talking about the purpose of the crusades. It was to stop Muslims from killing Christians that would not convert. It is history, not racism.
 
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Bryancampbell

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James2v18 said:
All religions are not the same, nor all denominations of Christianity. There is only one thing that is the truth, so there can only be one religion that has the truth when those religions disagree. Some think they are right but are honesty mistaken. Some are made up by men for their own purposes. Which can be evil.
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True but not all Muslim denomination are the same either...and the crusades was a very cruel act done to innocent people for a piece of land that was unachievable. I'm just saying dude, it's crazy how people label one group on the entire system. Not all atheists hate God cuz most are agnostic like that man said where they just don't care.
 
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James2v18

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The Crusades were done to stop Muslims from killing Christians that would not convert. That was the purpose. What evil
people did in the name of the Crusades is a totally different thing, than what the purpose was.
 
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Bryancampbell

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James2v18 said:
The Crusades were done to stop Muslims from killing Christians that would not convert. That was the purpose. What evil
people did in the name of the Crusades is a totally different thing, than what the purpose was.
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Sir, I think your mixed up I might be wrong....But the crusades happened because the Catholics wanted to take back the holy land from the Muslims because they populated it and were considered infidels (non believers).....
 
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James2v18

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Bryancampbell said:
Sir, I think your mixed up I might be wrong....But the crusades happened because the Catholics wanted to take back the holy land from the Muslims because they populated it and were considered infidels (non believers).....
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"Christians were making a pilgrimage to the holy land, much like today, then in 1009, Hakem, the Fatimite Caliph of Egypt, in a fit of madness ordered the destruction of the Holy Sepulchre and all the Christian establishments in Jerusalem. For years thereafter Christians were cruelly persecuted. The rise of the Seljukian Turks compromised the safety of pilgrims and even threatened the independence of the Byzantine Empire and of all Christendom." Be Muslim or die is their stance. And it still is when Muslims are in the Majority of the Country. To deny that is to be naive.
 
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CNikki

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Many who "blame" God either do it to bring up an argument by implying that God isn't doing anything effective to take away the world's miseries, hunger and sorrows, therefore he doesn't exist or they could be people who once believed and then lash out because they never got the answers that lead them to being confused about what they believed in. I can't say I entirely blame them but some people will go to no extent when it comes to mocking which is at a different level while bringing the excuse that they're bringing their side about the nonexistent and the whole "Where's God now?" sort of thing.
 
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Bryancampbell

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James2v18 said:
"Christians were making a pilgrimage to the holy land, much like today, then in 1009, Hakem, the Fatimite Caliph of Egypt, in a fit of madness ordered the destruction of the Holy Sepulchre and all the Christian establishments in Jerusalem. For years thereafter Christians were cruelly persecuted. The rise of the Seljukian Turks compromised the safety of pilgrims and even threatened the independence of the Byzantine Empire and of all Christendom." Be Muslim or die is their stance. And it still is when Muslims are in the Majority of the Country. To deny that is to be naive.
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Explain some more
 
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danschance

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If atheists do not believe in God, then why do they hang out in Christian forums?
 
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James2v18

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Bryancampbell said:
Yea that's the problem it's the Catholic point of view lol...No offense but I can tell they try to sugar coat the real deal
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Here is a different point of view than. THE CRUSADES TO THE HOLY LAND. Look for the truth. What do historians say about it? Ones that don't attack the truth for their personal agenda. You can find the truth if you look. Some people do evil things in the name of religion to bolster their cause (like many people who took part in the Crusades). Others unknowingly hide the work of their evil behind tolerance. Both are doing the devils work, one knowingly, the other mistakenly. That is why the truth is important. It can be found if you know where to look. I'll pray that you will find it.
 
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