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Sure, I looked. I looked at the life of every people who live with these Gods. Then I looked at the people in my neighborhood who live apart from the God I know, I looked for that quiet contented joy in them. I found it in one girl who said she had no God, but her Grandmother did and she copied how she lived, but usually I found they lived with the true God.
I still couldn't understand what He was saying in his word, but I kept reading a chapter at a time. Gobbely Gook. One day at 8:12 PM (I looked at the clock) something happened in my mind so it made sense. I have heard of others tell of things like this who know the true God, but never from Gods who were made up by men.
Then I followed the instructions given in His book by Job, how to look at nature and wonder. I did that. It led me to wanting to be connected with the power that can do all that, I found this power explained in His book.
I still couldn't understand what He was saying in his word, but I kept reading a chapter at a time. Gobbely Gook. One day at 8:12 PM (I looked at the clock) something happened in my mind so it made sense. I have heard of others tell of things like this who know the true God, but never from Gods who were made up by men.
Then I followed the instructions given in His book by Job, how to look at nature and wonder. I did that. It led me to wanting to be connected with the power that can do all that, I found this power explained in His book.
This is really no way for a christian to act an exspecially not to someone you know nothing about except that he is an athiest just because someones an athiest dosent make them a bad person an sence his reply to you wasnt really a mean or abusive one than id say right now ge is being more christian than you are friend..
They can be yes just because somone dosent belive in God dosent mean they go around killing babies an raping women most of them are just like you an me with the only diffrence being what they belive.... an yes you can give me the whole none are good we all fall short speech but im not talking about from a biblical perspective simply in general there not bad people.
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I answered him logically and offered what I thought was a funny little poem for levity.
The rest is your false interpretation and projecting of your own feelings and negative thinking into my simple reply.
You can choose to interpret what people say more accurately and also in a more positive way. That way you're not distorting what other people say and spinning it as negatively as you possibly can like you've done here today.
Go ahead smile. It might do you someone like yourself good. Also, you can learn to spell words correctly and build better sentences. Language is a skill.
The rest is your false interpretation and projecting of your own feelings and negative thinking into my simple reply.
You can choose to interpret what people say more accurately and also in a more positive way. That way you're not distorting what other people say and spinning it as negatively as you possibly can like you've done here today.
Go ahead smile. It might do you someone like yourself good. Also, you can learn to spell words correctly and build better sentences. Language is a skill.
The poem wasnt funny to him or anything other athiest is was insulting an sence you said nothing along the lines of just kidding or lol there was no way to interpet it to he a joke an even if there was it would still be insulting to the person.... which seems to be the same thing your where doing by taking a jab at my typeing.. i see no way that could have been ment any other way ether.... but anyway i take no offense brother but i do hope the lord places upon your heart more compasinate thinking when talking to others..... i aplogise on behalf of my self an ageofknowledge for takin this thread off point an i apologise to need2know for any hard feelings that may have come about on this thread.... Godbless an much love
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Good and bad are just temporary constructs of convenience in atheism that have no ultimate meaningfulness. For what ultimate meaningfulness can good and bad have in a dead universe, void of life, where even atoms won't be able to form or hold together in the not too distant future as space expands. Fortunately, atheism is a false portrayal of reality. Nature is embedded in supernature a schema consisting of both natural and supernatural dimensions. It is because God exists that good and bad are ultimately meaningful.
Peace be with you, are you a believer of the New Covenant of the MESSIAH? The answers are all there. Why are you in blindness looking for an answer? Can we convince you or force feed you when the Holy Scripture of the Holy Bible is not in you? This is because you have not continued with CHRIST of the New Covenant. You are so proud and wise in your thinking towards unbelievers. How can we help you??????????
I always wonder why this kind of post isn't asked in an atheist forum. Then I see how many atheists answer back, and I am encouraged that they are paying attention, and pray that God will save them, just as he saved me.
I became an atheist in my teens. I did not believe in a god of any sort, and sadly, lived my life in a very wrong way. Now, I am not saying an atheist cannot be ethical, but I used it as an excuse for indulgence.
Which brings us to the point, that there is a difference between being a good person and an ethical person. The Bible tells us that no one is good except God alone.
"And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone." Mark 10:18
I think any honest atheist will admit he does not live his life perfectly. In order to be truly good, you must NEVER make a mistake or hurt anyone or think so much as a bad thought.
But living ethically is another issue. Trouble is, without the foundation of the Bible, ethics can become a slippery, twisting slope. You can learn to justify many things, and if "the end justifies the means" is your ethical belief, then you are at an impasse with Christianity.
But back to my testimony. In my early 20's I began to realize I did not know everything, and decided that maybe there was a god or maybe there wasn't. So I became agnostic. But that made me curious, so I started searching through all the religions of the world. I even looked seriously at Egyptian mythology, but those gods failed to talk to me. So did Allah, and the God of the Hindus, the Sikhs, and the New Age movement. It started to get scary, some of the weird practices I saw and heard about.
So I decided to read the Bible, out of respect for my grandmother, who was a Christian. I did not find God there! He found ME!!
So my thought to all the atheists on this thread is try reading the book of John in the Bible. Then keep reading the gospels, the Psalms and see if God finds you.
Paul preached in Athens to the atheist philosophers on the Acropolis (Mars Hill). He recommended that these philosophers should seek God, as he is not far from each one of us.
"And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place, [SUP]27 [/SUP]that they should seek God, and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him. Yet he is actually not far from each one of us, [SUP]28 [/SUP]for“‘In him we live and move and have our being’;
as even some of your own poets have said,
“‘For we are indeed his offspring.’
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Being then God's offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man." Acts. 17:26-29
Sadly, most of these intellects did not want to know more. But Christianity still spread like wild fire, despite the resistance of the atheists of that day.
As for how an atheist lives without God, it continues to be a huge mystery to me. Perhaps they just have not through the consequences of a life empty of God and a future with Christ.
I became an atheist in my teens. I did not believe in a god of any sort, and sadly, lived my life in a very wrong way. Now, I am not saying an atheist cannot be ethical, but I used it as an excuse for indulgence.
Which brings us to the point, that there is a difference between being a good person and an ethical person. The Bible tells us that no one is good except God alone.
"And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone." Mark 10:18
I think any honest atheist will admit he does not live his life perfectly. In order to be truly good, you must NEVER make a mistake or hurt anyone or think so much as a bad thought.
But living ethically is another issue. Trouble is, without the foundation of the Bible, ethics can become a slippery, twisting slope. You can learn to justify many things, and if "the end justifies the means" is your ethical belief, then you are at an impasse with Christianity.
But back to my testimony. In my early 20's I began to realize I did not know everything, and decided that maybe there was a god or maybe there wasn't. So I became agnostic. But that made me curious, so I started searching through all the religions of the world. I even looked seriously at Egyptian mythology, but those gods failed to talk to me. So did Allah, and the God of the Hindus, the Sikhs, and the New Age movement. It started to get scary, some of the weird practices I saw and heard about.
So I decided to read the Bible, out of respect for my grandmother, who was a Christian. I did not find God there! He found ME!!
So my thought to all the atheists on this thread is try reading the book of John in the Bible. Then keep reading the gospels, the Psalms and see if God finds you.
Paul preached in Athens to the atheist philosophers on the Acropolis (Mars Hill). He recommended that these philosophers should seek God, as he is not far from each one of us.
"And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place, [SUP]27 [/SUP]that they should seek God, and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him. Yet he is actually not far from each one of us, [SUP]28 [/SUP]for“‘In him we live and move and have our being’;
as even some of your own poets have said,
“‘For we are indeed his offspring.’
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Being then God's offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man." Acts. 17:26-29
Sadly, most of these intellects did not want to know more. But Christianity still spread like wild fire, despite the resistance of the atheists of that day.
As for how an atheist lives without God, it continues to be a huge mystery to me. Perhaps they just have not through the consequences of a life empty of God and a future with Christ.
Nothing is different. Our lives are exactly the same. The same bad/good stuff happens to atheists and Christians alike. We fall in love, we have children, we suffer loss of loved ones. We have jobs, we have financial burden and family troubles.
Our lives are no different.
Go back to the time of the plague. The bishop at the time was confused as to why the same amount of believers were dying as the non believers. Same as there is no difference for any hardships that may come our way. We will either survive or die. Regardless of our beliefs.
The only difference between is you don't believe in 10,000 gods. And I don't believe in 10,001.
Aside from that our lives are identical.
Our lives are no different.
Go back to the time of the plague. The bishop at the time was confused as to why the same amount of believers were dying as the non believers. Same as there is no difference for any hardships that may come our way. We will either survive or die. Regardless of our beliefs.
The only difference between is you don't believe in 10,000 gods. And I don't believe in 10,001.
Aside from that our lives are identical.