WHY ARE PEOPLE WORSHIPING ON SUNDAY?

[Shiloah]

Jewish mitzvot(laws) come from the Jewish scriptures. The Concept of Sabbath comes from the jewish scriptures. Jewish dietary law comes from Jewish scriptures.

You can pretend the Sabbath is not jewish if you want to but they are not greek, egyptian, polish or martian either.

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Jesus was Jewish. What's the fact that God gave the Jews the 10 commandments and through their lines Jesus came into this world have to do with your thinking Jewishness makes the sabbath law null and void?

All the laws came from Jewish scripture. The don't lie, steal, commit adultery, etc., etc. Once again, your reasoning is entirely bogus.

 

[john832]

Speaking of the Sabbath, I am getting excited here, it begins in less than 5 hours. I always get a warm, happy feeling as we come up to the Sabbath day. It is the highpont of the week. May you all have a blessed and happy Sabbath day.

 

[Shiloah]

Speaking of the Sabbath, I am getting excited here, it begins in less than 5 hours. I always get a warm, happy feeling as we come up to the Sabbath day. It is the highpont of the week. May you all have a blessed and happy Sabbath day.

Happy Sabbath to you as well, John832. I can totally rest in Christ and not feel the least bit guilty! Love it, every time it comes around.

 

[zone]

Yeah, that's right, put those pagan gentiles und(er the yoke and bondage of the law that even the Jews couldn't keep, that way they can be condemned along with the Jews. Yeah, back to the LAW keeping and down with grace. Yeah!!

 

[RedTent]

If you want to believe in the big bad ugly mean catholic church which forced all good Christians to worship on Sunday and other works of catholic bashing fiction, go ahead.

I posted statements by earlier church leaders that the church was already worshipping on Sunday hundreds of years before Constantine.

This is right, pagans did not want to change the day they worshipped from the beginning and Constantine made his laws in 324. We are following Constantine and the pagans, not God's word.

 

[Wall]

The believers had to meet some day, and the scriptures record in other places that the first day of the week is when believers met.

I bet you wont tell me where those scriptures are.

 

[Wall]

I never said God changed anything. The Sabbath is the Sabbath, and Sunday is the Lord's day.

The Sabbath is biblical. Sunday being the Lords day? Nowhere to be found in scripture

 

[Bookends]

God says that you may use Sunday if that is the day you choose.

But how you can say it is the day the Lord blessed for Sabbath I cannot fathom! We are given many scriptures about the Sabbath, even how God gave it to us for our benefit. The women discovered that the Lord had arisen on that day, but they didn't know when he rose for they didn't see him do that. They just found He was gone.

If you look at the steps man took to come to the decision to change it, it makes it very clear that it was man's decision, and the reasons they did it is clear, and they did not do it to better obey the Lord but for personal reasons.

The Lord is putting up with it for our sakes. The Lord puts up with divorce for our sakes. You can be wonderful, saved redeemed Christians and choose Sunday instead of Saturday. But you can't say it is God's word.

God bless the 7th day because He was done with His good creation, we still live in that blessed day and His creation for God is done creating for now. The Lord urges or woes everyone to enter into His rest, this is what the blessing is all about.

 

[Bryancampbell]

"Remember the sabbath day and keep it holy"
"If you love me keep my commandmenys"
"Many say they know me but their actions are aganist me"
"On judgement day the book of laws was opened and people were judged according to what is in it"

MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE PEOPLE REJECTING THE LORDS WILL. WE CARRY OUR BAGS AND SAY WE ARE GOING TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY. SATURDAY HAS NOW BECOME A DAY OF PARTING AND SOCIAL EVENS. WHY? Someone please answer.

Hebrews 4:9-11, Salvation is a free gift given to us at the finished and rest works of Jesus' mission on earth.
We celebrate Sunday as the Lord's day of resurrecting from his "finished work"
So we enter into His rest, the Lord's sabbath, His seventh day (seven is a number of completion, which is funny cuz Jesus competed the Father's work).

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

I bet you wont tell me where those scriptures are.

No I won't. You'll have to go find them yourself...

 

[Bookends]

Happy Sabbath to you as well, John832. I can totally rest in Christ and not feel the least bit guilty! Love it, every time it comes around.

You can have that feeling everyday! Wouldn't you rather have that?

 

[Bookends]

What day do you suppose we are to wroship Him on? The day He sanctified and made holy, or just any day of our choosing?

Whatever day He leads to worship Him is fine with me. Which is everyday for me, but I gather with the saints of Sunday for corporate worship, prayer and prophesying (edification through the Word).

 

[2LIVE4GOD]

I bet you wont tell me where those scriptures are.

ACTS 20:7...
[SUP]7. [/SUP]And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

1 CORINTHIANS 16:2...
[SUP]2. [/SUP]Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

MARK 2:27-28...
[SUP]27. [/SUP]And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
[SUP]28. [/SUP]Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

READ HEBREWS CHAPTER 4:1-16... TO SEE THAT THE SABBATH IS RESTING ALWAYS IN OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST AND NOT IN UNBELIEF... IT IS ALSO NOT A SPECIFIC DAY OF THE WEEK...

THIS IS WHAT IS MEANT BY MARK 2:27-28...


MARK 2:27-28...
[SUP]27. [/SUP]And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man ( RESTING IN OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST ), and not man for the sabbath ( A SPECIFIC DAY ):
[SUP]28. [/SUP]Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath ( RESTING IN HIM ALONE ).

GOD BLESS...

 

[Wall]

I'm curious as to why you posted this in the first place. Are you making a statement that everyone who does not worship on Saturday is rejecting God's will, and through their defiance they're going to go to hell? If so, there just went about 99% of the US Christian population.

Let's not forget that 1% that is usually worshiping on Saturday on the Roman calendar, not the Jewish one that is breaking all the rest of the Sabbath laws. In the same estimation, they are defiant and are going to hell also.

Your numbers point out the truth

LUKE 12 [31] But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.[32] FEAR NOT, LITTLE FLOCK; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

only a little flock will enter the kingdom

MATT.7 [13] Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction,and many there be which go in thereat:[14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life,and FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT.

few there be that find it

MATT.7 [21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.[22] MANY WILL SAY to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?[23] And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.

In footnotes of the KJB, iniquity equals lawlessness. You can find this in 2 THES. 2 verse 7. And the many have come in the name of JESUS saying we need not keep GODS 10 commandments. Practice to break one ya break them all according to scripture

LUKE 13 [23] Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,[24] Strive to enter in at the strait gate: FOR MANY, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.[25] When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:[26] Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.[27] But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

Jesus himself tells us that “the many” will not enter the Kingdom. And he explains why. They are workers of iniquity. They do not keep Gods law. HIS 10 commandments.

PSALMS 89 [30] If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments;[31] If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments;[32] Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes.

 

[2LIVE4GOD]

God bless the 7th day because He was done with His good creation, we still live in that blessed day and His creation for God is done creating for now. The Lord urges or woes everyone to enter into His rest, this is what the blessing is all about.

You can have that feeling everyday! Wouldn't you rather have that?

Whatever day He leads to worship Him is fine with me. Which is everyday for me, but I gather with the saints of Sunday for corporate worship, prayer and prophesying (edification through the Word).

AMEN BROTHER BOOKENDS AMEN AMEN AMEN.....

COULDN'T SAY IT ANY BETTER BROTHER.....

 

[Wall]

If you want to believe in the big bad ugly mean catholic church which forced all good Christians to worship on Sunday and other works of catholic bashing fiction, go ahead.

I posted statements by earlier church leaders that the church was already worshipping on Sunday hundreds of years before Constantine.

I don't know those guys you quoted but I did notice you did not mention any scriptures from the bible

 

[zone]

[h=3]James 2:10[/h]
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

 

[Donkeyfish07]

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

This passage is clear, it plainly says not to let anyone judge you for KEEPING the Sabbath. Explain to me how it says any day is OK. Now where in this passage does it say any day will do?

I think you can look at that both ways......Do not let anyone judge you for choosing to keep it, and do not judge anyone else regarding their observance or non-observance of it either.

 

[danschance]

The Sabbath is biblical. Sunday being the Lords day? Nowhere to be found in scripture

You might believe that to be true and you may have been told that is true, but that is the kind of stuff I flush.

1 Corinthians 16:2 - Upon the first [day] of the week (Sunday) let every one of you lay by him in store, as [God] hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
(Tithe on Sunday!)

7 On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul began talking to them, intending to leave the next day, and he prolonged his [a]message until midnight. Acts 20:7

On the first day of every week each one of you is to [a]put aside and save, as he may prosper, so that no collections be made when I come. 1Cor.16:2

16 Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day—17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. Col, 2:16,17

I was [a]in the Spirit on the Lord’s day Rev1:10

So first of you can't tell anyone when to worship because then you are acting as my judge in violation of Col. 2:16 above.

Secoundly notice how the early church---before COnstantine worshipped and assembled on Sunday and not the Jewish Sabbath?

Thirdly, Isn't it astounding that the apostle John called Sunday the Lord's day too? Is this tacit approval of the church worshipping on Sunday and not Sabbath? I think so.

 

[Wall]

ACTS 20:7...
[SUP]7. [/SUP]And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

ACTS 20 [7] And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.[8] And there were many lights in the upper chamber, where they were gathered together.

The above scripture is used by the "many" to convince people that sunday was being kept as a day of rest instead of the sabbath during the time of Paul. They will point out that on the first day of the week they came together to “break bread” and thus the believers of Pauls time were following sunday as the “new testament” day of rest.

ACTS 2 [42] And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.[43] And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.[44] And all that believed were together, and had all things common;[45] And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.[46] And they, CONTINUING DAILY with one accord in the temple, AND BREAKING BREAD from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

But as you can see they “broke bread” daily. Not just on the first day of the week. They were simply eating. The fact is, you will find no where in the new testament anyone keeping sunday as a day of rest.