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And here is another video of some good street preaching. And again, notice that what the minister is preaching from is not the Greek or Hebrew, but he is preaching from the King James Holy Bible:

<video of entrance to Manson concert removed for my own sanity>
A Marilyn Manson concert? Why exactly did you introduce Manson into the topic? What are you really promoting here?

"Surely Marilyn Manson,
an ordained high-priest of Anton LaVey's Church of Satan, ..."

Anton LaVey: Man of Satan
 

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I've read Gipp, thanks though.

Check out this article by Sam Gipp:


Sam Gipp is not Cambridge. Cambridge defines the KJV Bible, not Oxford, not Sam Gipp, and not Gail Riplinger with her multiple divorces, as if I don't know where you're arguing from, it's not D.A. Waite, it's Riplinger.

Here are 6 years only of updates to the KJV Paragraph Bible, from 2005 to 2011. It's a lot more than 375 changes in 400 years.

http://www.cambridge.org/bibles/kjv/downloads/NCPB_2011_amendments.pdf

Gen. 6:5, Gen. 10:30, Gen. 13:13, Gen. 13:14, Gen. 14:17, Gen. 18:1-2, Gen. 22:16-18, Gen. 28:16, Gen. 38:25, Gen. 40:6, Exod. 7:25, Exod. 18:16, Lev. 11:35, Lev. 11:47, Num. 14:28, Num. 16:28, Num. 23:13, Deut. 22:14, Deut. 30:4, Deut. 33:5-6, Deut. 33:7, Josh. 2:10, Josh. 24:11, Judg. 4:22, Judg. 14:8, Judg. 16:14, Judg. 18:9, Judg. 20:22, 1 Sam. 10:2, 1 Sam. 26:12, 1 Sam. 30:3, 2 Sam. 1:10, 2 Sam. 1:11, 2 Sam. 13:12, 2 Sam. 13:34, 2 Sam. 21:17, 1 Kgs 3:7, 1 Kgs 14:12, 2 Kgs 3:15, 2 Kgs 17:8, 2 Kgs 19:33-4, 2 Kgs 21:22, 2 Kgs 22:19-20, 1 Chr. 21:2, 2 Chr. 11:21, Ezra 6:5, Esther 2:17, Job 23:9, Job 28:14, Job 33:17, Job 38:9, Ps. 3:5, Ps. 42:4, Ps. 50:5, Ps. 50:7, Ps. 50:15, Ps. 55:17, Ps. 55:22, Ps. 60:6, Ps. 60:8, Ps. 60:6, Ps. 60:8, Ps. 71:18, Ps. 78:22, Ps. 78:65, Ps. 81:6, Ps. 81:11, Ps. 81:13, Ps. 81:14, Ps. 89:3 2, Ps. 89:4, Ps. 95:8, Ps. 99:4, Ps. 107:3, Ps. 113:6, Ps. 119:14, Ps. 139:11, Ps. 144:2, Ps. 148:12, Prov. 16:1, 2, 6, 9, 20, 33, 17:3, 15, 18:22, 19:3, 14, 21, 20:10, 12, 22, 21:1, 2, 3, 30, 31, 22:2, 14, 23:17, 25:22, 28:5, 25, 29:13, 25, 26, 31:30, Prov. 23:7, Prov. 23:35, Prov. 24:4, Prov. 24:29, Prov. 25:9-10, Prov. 26:24, Eccles. 12:2, Isa. 5:29, Isa. 7:4, Isa. 7:14, Isa. 9:6, Isa. 9:12, Isa. 16:2, Isa. 17:8, Isa. 28:24, Isa. 30:1, Isa. 35:10, Isa. 43:22, Isa. 51:19, Isa. 60:15, Isa. 63:19, Isa. 64:11, Isa. 66:24, Jer. 2:13, Jer. 4:9, Jer. 18:2, Jer. 22:18, Jer. 22:19 19, Jer. 31:9, Jer. 31:26, Jer. 32:6, Jer. 33:10, Ezek. 11:15, Ezek. 17:5 5, Ezek. 20:4 4, Wilt 4, Ezek. 21:8, Ezek. 30:6, Ezek. 33:10, Ezek. 36:27, 37:14, 39:29, Dan. 7:14, Dan. 9:2, Dan. 10:16, 17 (twice), 19, Dan. 11:10, Hos. 1:2, Hos. 13:14, Hos. 13:15, Hos. 14:3, Joel 2:28, 29, Joel 3:4, Joel 3:5, Joel 3:10, Amos 4:13, Amos 5:3, Amos 5:14, Amos 5:16, Amos 6:9, Jonah 1:11, Micah 1:15, Hab. 1:5-11 5, Hab. 3:4, Haggai 2:23, Zech. 2:5, Zech. 4:1, Mal. 1:10, Matt. 17:6, Matt. 22:13, Matt. 27:8, Mark 9:21, Mark 9:22, Mark 12:36, Mark 16:7, Luke 1:4, Luke 12:57, Luke 13:3, Luke 20:42, John 1:35, John 3:26, John 8:7, John 11:16, John 21:20, Acts 1:11, Acts 2:29, Acts 2:31, Acts 2:34, Acts 9:11, Acts 15:17, Acts 24:19, Acts 25:7-8, Rom. 1:6, Rom. 1:7, 1 Cor. 2:12, 1 Cor. 15:37, 2 Cor. 11:12, Col. 1:16, 2 Thess. 1:1, Titus 1:14, James 2:23, 1 Pet. 3:21, Rev. 8:13



Explain all the above changes to the KJV in 6 years, then I will tell you many secrets about that. Thanks.

Well first off I do not trust this New Cambridge Paragraph Bible. For two main reasons.

1) The first edition which came out in 2005, and that very edition was made to modernize the standard text of the King James Version.

2) The 2005 Edition was taken from Scrivener's Edition of the Text (1873).

Here are the changes that were made by Scrivener to the Text of The KJV:


  • in Matthew 23:24, Scrivener changes KJV's "strain at a gnat" to "strain out a gnat" (emphasis added) on the basis of the belief that it was a printer's error or a mistranslation, as it is commonly known that hulizō means "to filter".[SUP][3][/SUP]

  • he changes Hebrews 10:23's "Let us hold fast the profession of our faith" to "Let us hold fast the profession of our hope" (emphasis added); this change was allegedly to fix a translator error;

  • introduces modern spelling in preference to that of the 18th century—"assuaged" rather than "asswaged," "music" rather than "musick," "show" instead of "shew," etc.

"Considerable honour is due to Scrivener for his work on the 1873 Cambridge Paragraph Bible. Nevertheless, there are some instances of misrepresentation of the original KJV text in Scrivener's work, since, as Norton suggests, he felt himself entitled to "correct" what the translators wrote." -
David Norton


So basically Scrivener made himself an authority on how the text of the Holy Bible should be read. Therefore he made those changes to the text. IN Hebrews 10:23, the correct reading is Faith. Not Hope.


So those 2011 changes were simply changes and amending that were done to the 2005 Edition which was based on Scrivener's work.


Also, you may want to Check out this list that Bryan Denlinger has on his website King James Video Ministries:


http://www.kingjamesvideoministries.com/Counterfeit%20KJV%20Bibles%202.pdf



Another thing, if you ever want to buy some really good King James Bibles where the text has not been amended and changed by secular Publishing Companies and where the spelling has not been modernized, then I highly recommend Local Church Bible Publishers and Bearing Precious Seed Ministries.
 

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Praus, here is a good article By Nic Kizziah, in regard to the textual changes to the Holy Bible which the secular publishing companies are making:


Believers Beware of Counterfeit King James Bibles​


By Nic Kizziah

[HR][/HR]King James Bible believers are faced with an array of problems to day. Of course we all know that the multiplicity of all the new modern versions are a big problem but another big problem is the fact that many of the worldly publishing companies are publishing Bibles and calling them King James Bibles when in actuality they are not. They are counterfeits. Because the King James Bible is in the publick domain and not copyrighted, these worldly publishing companies think they can make minor changes to the standard text so that they can please certain groups which translates into extra sales for them. That's the way the modern world operates to day. All the common ordinary Bible believer wants is the same Bible that his grandmother had and the same Bible her grandmother had and the same Bible her grandmother had etc. that's all.

Just give us the text that has established itself as the standard text of the Holy Bible, an old fashioned, Christ exalting, devil kicking, Authorized King James Bible. To the best of my understanding this is the 1769 edition of the 1611 King James Bible with a few minor printing errors and spellings corrected along the way in the 1800's.
Until the twenty-first century you could get a copy of it in any nickel and dime book store. To day you can still find it but you must proceed with caution. You will be hard pressed to find it at all in any typical Christian book store without some alterations to the text.

The Bible of our forefathers which we received through process of time comes with three specific warning labels. One is near the front. The other is near the middle and the last one is at the very end. Let's read them:

WARNING LABEL # 1 - Deuteronomy 4:2

[SUP]2 [/SUP]Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

WARNING LABEL # 2 - Proverbs 30:5-6

[SUP]5[/SUP] Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

WARNING LABEL # 3 - Revelation 22:18-19

[SUP]18 [/SUP]For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

[SUP]19 [/SUP]And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

I would like to think these worldly publishing companies are just ignorant to the seriousness of what they are doing. However in some cases I'm sure that these deceptive maneuvers are being done with fore thought. In other words they are aware of the warning labels but choose to ignore them. They have hardened their hearts against the standard text of the Holy Bible.

Let me give you an example of what I'm talking about. It was approximately six months ago I purchased a King James Bible from a popular on line book store. It was a straight text (advertised as the standard text) meaning it had no notes, no references, no helps, and no maps. It was just what I wanted. Just give me the Bible and if I need help with a difficult passage I'll ask the Holy Spirit for guidance and I'll check other scriptures for references.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not against some of the commentaries and other Bible study tools. In fact I consider some of them a necessity, for example a good dictionary. It's just that commentaries, dictionaries, concordances and the like are the words of men and not the words of God. They are not infallible. Therefore I do not believe they should be mixed together under the same cover and be called the word of God. In actuality it is the word of God plus the words of a man or a group of men. In my opinion the Holy Bible should be just the word of God only from cover to cover. That is why I prefer a straight text.

At any rate I had bought the Bible I thought I wanted. It had been published by Cambridge. They have always been the giant in the industry. In fact they are the oldest Printer and Publisher in the world. They are supposed to be the gold standard for dependability according to many King James Bible believers. This Bible had a nice black French Morocco leather cover with golden coloured gilt edges. It was very nice on the outside but when I started checking out the inside I was shocked. This particular edition of the Cambridge Bible that calls itself a King James Bible is not genuine. IT'S A COUNTERFEIT! It's not the Bible of my forefathers!

Here are some of the changes I located: Asswaged has been changed to assuaged. Basons has been changed to basins. Chesnut has been changed to chestnut. Cloke has been changed to cloak. Enquire has been changed to inquire. Further has been changed to farther. Jubile has been changed to jubilee. Intreat has been changed to entreat. Morter has been changed to mortar. Ought has been changed to aught, and rereward has been changed to rearward.

Brother Nic, why get so upset? These are just minor changes in spelling. Well maybe they are, but have you never read "a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?" You see I believe God wrote the Bible through sinful men. I believe God copied the Bible through sinful men. I believe God translated the Bible through sinful men, and I believe God edited (purified) the Bible through sinful men. So therefore I believe God gave us the exact words in the exact order He wanted us to have them in. If that's the case then He spelled the words exactly the way He wanted to spell them, and gave them to us in a pure language, and that language is the standard text of the King James Bible. This is the Bible that has stood the test of time without any editing whatsoever and this is the Bible The Believers organization, with God's help, intends to preserve for all future generations.

Beside all this, Cambridge has also taken the liberty of making doctrinal changes. Notice the following: The capital S in the word Spirit has been changed to a lower case s in numerous passages. The capital S refers to the Holy Spirit, the third member of the Godhead, whereas the lower case s in the word spirit could have multiple definitions such as simply referring to a mood or emotion. Its primary definition means to breath. All living self moving creatures have a spirit within them. So many definitions could apply to the word spirit when it is not capitalized.

To change the capital S in the word Spirit to a lower case s is an attack against the Godhead, the most powerful threefold cord in heaven and earth: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Cambridge has made this critical error in the following places: Genesis 1:2, 41:38, Judges 3:10, 6:34, 11:29, 13:25, 14:6, 14:19, 15:14, 1 Samuel 10:6, 10:10, 11:6, 16:13, 16:14, 19:20, 19:23, 2 Samuel 23:2, 1 Kings 18:12, 22:24, 2 Kings 2:16, 2 Chronicles 15:1, 18:23, 20:14, 24:20, Job 33:4, Isaiah 40:13, 48:16, 61:1, 63:10, 11, 14, Ezekiel 11:5, 24. For hundreds of years Cambridge published these verses with a capital S, but now in the twenty-first century it has been changed. Actually this so called standard text edition first hit the market in 1993 and is being endorsed by many King James Bible believing websites to day. I assume that they are not aware that it has been modernized.

Here is another change that has been made in this particular edition: the word twoedged has become two-edged. They added a hyphen. This word is only in the King James Bible four times (Psalms 149:6, Proverbs 5:4, Hebrews 4:12, and Revelation 1:16.) Now check this out: they added the hyphen in only three of the four verses. They left it without a hyphen in Hebrews 4:12. Why? Was this a mistake or did they mean to do it that way? Why tamper with it in the first place? Don't say you were trying to help us Cambridge. If that's the case then please don't try to help us any more. All we want you to do is to publish the same standard text of the King James Bible as you have done so very well for hundreds of years. Don't publish something that is not the standard and call it the standard. Once you modernize spelling, change capital letters to lower case letters and add hyphens, you are changing the standard text in order to please modern society.

Here are some other ploys that some of these other worldly publishing companies are pulling on an unaware publick. One thing a lot of them do is change the spelling of words that end with the letters o-u-r to the more modern American spelling of o-r. For example armour becomes armor. Behaviour becomes behavior. Clamour becomes clamor. Colour becomes color. Endeavour becomes endeavor. Favour becomes favor. Honour becomes honor. Labour becomes labor. Neighbour becomes neighbor. Odour becomes odor. Rigour becomes rigor. Rumour becomes rumor. Valour becomes valor and vapour becomes vapor. Well Brother Nic what's wrong with that? Remember what we said about the warning labels? Remember what the scripture said about a little leaven leaventh the whole lump?

Now the very worst of this battle of o-u-r vs. o-r comes when dealing with the only begotten Son of God, our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The modern day counterfeiters have changed Saviour to Savior. They have given us a six-letter Savior in place of a seven-letter Saviour. In Bible numerics seven is the number of completeness, purity, and spiritual perfection. On the other hand six is the number of man which is earthly not heavenly. Every one has heard of 666. It has a bad connotation and is not highly esteemed in Bible numerics.

The seven-letter Saviour is the only begotten Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ. The six-letter Savior is the son of perdition, the anti christ. He wants to be like the most High (Isaiah 14:14,) but not in a good way, but in an evil way. He is not a follower. He's a counterfeiter. Therefore his final destination is the lake of fire. The new versions, along with the new age movement, and some of the King James Bible counterfeits are preparing the way for this six-letter so called Savior. That's the way he will spell his name, S-a-v-i-o-r not S-a-v-i-o-u-r. No thank you Satan. I'm sticking with the seven-letter Saviour as portrayed in the old black Book that I inherited from my forefathers.

There are many other things going on by the worldly publishing companies. Almost all of them have hardened their hearts against the standard text of the Holy Bible. They do not believe God actually had His hand upon it much less wrote it. They treat it as a product of men. That is why they do not hesitate to publish all the different new versions. Nor do they hesitate to change the old King James and still call it the King James. If a person can't see the fingerprints of God upon this Book then he is either clouded in the cabassis or he is as lost as a duck in the desert with his head in the sand!

The rules of English grammar may change but the King James Bible is fixed in a moment of time (the 1800's, the 1900's and for ever more) and is unchangeable. This is the standard text and there is no other. This is the Book that spread the gospel of Jesus Christ all over the world. This is the Book my grandmother had and her grandmother had and her grandmother had without any alterations (editing) whatsoever. It is basically the same Book that rolled off the printing press in 1611. The only differences being it was changed from Gothic type to Roman type, printer's errors were corrected and spelling was stabilized. The King James Bible is a very old Book.

 

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Believers Beware of Counterfeit King James Bibles

Nic Kizziah

Part 2.



Now consider this: the scriptures have been translated into over 1,200 languages. Of all these over 800 languages had it translated straight from the Elizabethan English of the King James Bible. Not from the Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. Not from the Latin, not from the German, but straight from the Authorized King James. Now some of these people have learned English as a second language. They are not familiar with these modern Americanized spellings nor are most of the other English speaking people of the world. Can you see what God has woven together through process of time? The Holy Bible is from above and is a finished book from God. It is written in a pure language. Furthermore this language is very peculiar and has been used and still is being used in a very unique way. Let's preserve it as we received it and quit trying to change it!


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This is just a very short list of the changes being made by some of the worldly publishing companies. If you find one counterfeit word then that is a pretty good indication there are many more. Don't buy that Bible, check elsewhere.

The best place I know to purchase a good Bible at a reasonable price is at Bearing Precious Seed Ministry. They sell them at cost. However they do expect a donation with each purchase. This is a church ministry, not a business.
 

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ALL of God's holy words need such treatment, not the carelessness of the KJV translators like Richard Thomson (Genesis-Kings, Westminster group) the drunk.

Why are you so determined to
promote homosexuality in Christian culture?

James 2:3
And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: (KJV-PCE)

If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, "Here's a good seat for you," but say to the poor man, "You stand there" or "Sit on the floor by my feet," (NIV)

and you pay special attention to the one who is wearing the fine clothes, and say, "You sit here in a good place," and you say to the poor man, "You stand over there, or sit down by my footstool," (NASB)

and if you pay attention to the one who wears the fine clothing and say, “You sit here in a good place,” while you say to the poor man, “You stand over there,” or, “Sit down at my feet,” (ESV)

Praus, have you ever looked up the definition of Gay in an Webster's 1828 Dictionary?

Here is the Standard Definition of the word Gay as it was in 1828:


Gay, a.
1. Merry; airy; jovial; sportive; frolicksome. It denotes more life and animation than cheerful. Belinda smiled, and all the world was gay.


2. Fine; showy; as a gay dress.


So Gay does not mean homosexual. Don't believe what the wicked liberal tells you. The sodomites stole the word "Gay" from the King James Bible. You see Praus,the word "gay" was used in the King James Bible to define joyous and happy clothing. Did you know that the word "gay" was also used in Hymns?

So again, the sodomites have perverted the word "Gay" to mean what they want it to mean. But be assured that it has nothing to do with the filth and abomination of Sodomy.


Now let's look up the definiton of Sodomite:


SOD'OMITE, n. 1. An inhabitant of Sodom. 2. One guilty of sodomy.

SOD'OMY, n. A crime against nature.
 

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WOW WAIT so the difference of colour and color is actually a kjv only point? wow at first i just thought you were really into the kjv. now i see this whole thing is ludicrous beyond belief and youre just a troll
 

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Well I see that you are not going to answer my question, so I will go ahead and share with you some of the Numerical Codes and Patterns found in the Authorized King James Version:

Now explain some of these Praus:


Let us start with the Number 8: Check out the interesting phenomenon that occurs in the Authorized King James Bible just with this one number alone:

The word "Noah" appears exactly 48 (6x8) times in the Old Testament. Noah, the eighth person, a preacher of righteouesness, his name can be seen to have a unique parallel to the number 8 with the first example given.

Check this out. Both forms of his name (Noah and Noe) are found exactly 8 times in the New Testament!

Noah is found in the following Scriptures in the New Testament: Hebrews 11:7, 1 Peter 3:20, and 2 Peter 2:5.

Noe (another form of the same name) is found in the following places in the New Testament: Matthew 24:37, Matthew 24:38, Luke 3:36, Luke 17:26, and Luke 17:27. A total of 5 times.

Therefore, when you add up the number of times Noah appears in the Old Testament (48) with the number of times both forms of his name appears in the New Testament (8) you get 56!!

Hence, Noah is shown to be the product of completion (7) and New Beginnings (8). Isn't that neat?! How amazing is that!

The word "alive" is found 88 times in the Authorized King James Bible.
The word "revive" is found 8 times in the King James Bible
The word "forth" appears 888 times in the King James Bible?


How about the Number 3?

The number 3 is said to be the number of resurrection and divine completion.

In the Authorized Version, the phrase "born again" is found exactly 3 times.

The phrase "resurrection from the dead" is found 3 times also.

The word "awake" (both capital and lowercase) are found 42 (14x3)times.

The word "awaketh" is found exactly 3 times in the King James Bible.

These are just a few of the codes found in the text of the Authorized Version.

There are so many more that could be listed. Look up the Number 7 in the Authorized King James Version. It is absolutely beautiful to see how God uses the Number 7 through the whole Scriptures.
 
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Praus, have you ever looked up the definition of Gay in an Webster's 1828 Dictionary?

Here is the Standard Definition of the word Gay as it was in 1828:

Gay, a. 1. Merry; airy; jovial; sportive; frolicksome. It denotes more life and animation than cheerful. Belinda smiled, and all the world was gay.
2. Fine; showy; as a gay dress.

So Gay does not mean homosexual. Don't believe what the wicked liberal tells you.


The current definition (as of today) from Merriam-Webster: Gay - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

gay (adjective)
1a : happily excited : merry <in a gay mood>
b : keenly alive and exuberant : having or inducing high spirits <a bird's gay spring song>
2a : bright, lively <gay sunny meadows>
b : brilliant in color
3 : given to social pleasures; also : licentious
4 a : homosexual <gay men>
b : of, relating to, or used by homosexuals <the gay rights movement> <a gay bar>

By requiring the use of a dictionary that is 185 years old you are calling Jesus a liar and the KJV a liar.

Matt 24:35 Heauen and earth shall passe away, but my wordes shall not passe away. (1611)

Num 23:19 God is not a man that he should lie, neither the sonne of man, that hee should repent: hath he said, and shall he not doe it? or, hath hee spoken, and shall he not make it good? (1611)

The sodomites stole the word "Gay" from the King James Bible. You see Praus,the word "gay" was used in the King James Bible to define joyous and happy clothing. Did you know that the word "gay" was also used in Hymns?

So again, the sodomites have perverted the word "Gay" to mean what they want it to mean. But be assured that it has nothing to do with the filth and abomination of Sodomy.


So the KJV is the source of the homosexual use of the word gay? Is that the KJV-only philosophy?

Should we
outlaw the KJV so the sodomites can't use it to change the English language any further?
 

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Praus, I recommend getting the King James Code by Mike Hoggard:


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And you also may want to check out the book Peter Ruckman did on Bible Numerics:


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What is presented in them are facts. Undeniable and they cannot be refuted. So Praus, if the text of the Authorized King James Version is not perfect like you believe, then what is your explanation for these Numerical codes?

No one on the face of this earth could produce such Numerical patterns in a text of any kind. Study into the subject of Bible Numerics. Study it out and see what the Lord will reveal to you.

 
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WOW WAIT so the difference of colour and color is actually a kjv only point? wow at first i just thought you were really into the kjv. now i see this whole thing is ludicrous beyond belief and youre just a troll
Brother, you have no idea how deep this KJV-only rabbit hole goes...

"Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." --the White Queen, Through the Looking-Glass

KJV-only requires 1769 British spelling, it's also required to spell music as musick, . They're quite perturbed at some of the recent updates that Cambridge has made, such as updating the spelling of ancle to ankle.

For example (so you know I'm not making this up) : Use of the word "alway" instead of "always"

The world “always” means “at every time” and “on every occasion”, whereas the word “alway” means “all the time” and “perpetually”. For example, Jesus said, “lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.” (Matthew 28:20b). Yet He also said, “but me ye have not always.” (John 12:8b). This is not a contradiction, since John is describing Jesus’ personal physical presence.Even though Jesus is not “always” on Earth by His own physical person, yet He is “alway” with His people on the Earth, for example, by the Holy Ghost and the Word.
 
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Praus, I recommend getting the King James Code by Mike Hoggard:

Thanks, I'll check it out. I've watch several of Mr. Hoggard's videos on YouTube and I find him educational.

And you also may want to check out the book Peter Ruckman did on Bible Numerics:

I'm going to skip that one. Mr. Ruckman is vulgar.

Peter Ruckman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"On another occasion, Ruckman labeled a rival KJV-Only supporter, a "puffed up conceited ***."

And he's crazy.

Peter Ruckman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Ruckman believes a fetus does not become a living soul until it is born and takes its first breath. He believes in Unidentified Flying Objects and aliens, specifically blue aliens with blue blood, black aliens with green blood, and gray aliens with clear blood. Ruckman believes the Central Intelligence Agency has implanted brain transmitters in children, old people, and African-Americans and that the agency operates underground alien breeding facilities."

And he's racist as well.

"In 1984, Ruckman wrote, "Negroeshave to be carried. Where they are left to themselves they resort to mugging, rape, slavery, dope traffic, and eventuallycannibalism. In 1994, he wrote that "no matter how much integration is carried out, the IQ of blacks is always lower than whites."

And he's crazy, did I mention that?

In 1997, Ruckman claimed that Attorney General Janet Reno had drawn up a list with his name on it and predicted that the "Government Mafia" would make a hit on him during "the next two or three years."


What is presented in them are facts. Undeniable and they cannot be refuted. So Praus, if the text of the Authorized King James Version is not perfect like you believe, then what is your explanation for these Numerical codes?

No one on the face of this earth could produce such Numerical patterns in a text of any kind. Study into the subject of Bible Numerics. Study it out and see what the Lord will reveal to you.


I'll let you know after I look at the Hoggard book, it will be edifying no matter what conclusion I reach.
 
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Another thing, if you ever want to buy some really good King James Bibles where the text has not been amended and changed by secular Publishing Companies and where the spelling has not been modernized, then I highly recommendLocal Church Bible Publishers and Bearing Precious Seed Ministries.
Local Church Bible Publishers are KJV spelling modernizers. :eek: Why do you "highly recommend" them?

FAQ | Local Church Bible Publishers
"lowercases the “s” in I John 5:8 and we believe, based on the context of I John 5:6, the “Spirit” should be capitalized."

1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, [even] Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. (KJV/PCE)

1 John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. (KJV/PCE)
 

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Now some of these people have learned English as a second language. They are not familiar with these modern Americanized spellings nor are most of the other English speaking people of the world. Can you see what God has woven together through process of time? The Holy Bible is from above and is a finished book from God. It is written in a pure language. Furthermore this language is very peculiar and has been used and still is being used in a very unique way. Let's preserve it as we received it and quit trying to change it!


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This is just a very short list of the changes being made by some of the worldly publishing companies. If you find one counterfeit word then that is a pretty good indication there are many more. Don't buy that Bible, check elsewhere.

The best place I know to purchase a good Bible at a reasonable price is at Bearing Precious Seed Ministry. They sell them at cost. However they do expect a donation with each purchase. This is a church ministry, not a business.

What a load of Crap.

Sersiously do the Cult of King James Only actully beleive people will agree with this rubbish?

Furthermore this language is very peculiar and has been used and still is being used in a very unique way.

Its only peculiar because Language is evolving and changing all the time, in 1600s it was the language everyone in England spoke.

ow some of these people have learned English as a second language. They are not familiar with these modern Americanized spellings nor are most of the other English speaking people of the world. Can you see what God has woven together through process of time? The Holy Bible is from above and is a finished book from God. It is written in a pure language.

SO now its a pure language, so what is it ? peculiar or pure? Can not be both.

Now the King James Only Cult are claiming that the purist language on earth is early 17th Century English.. .Come on, even Zone's conspiracy stuff is more believable.


Of course this is a ploy to add even more "changes" to the ridiculous list, now you can claim every verse in the Bible has been changed by Satan, especailly when we use the modern spellings such as Music instead of Musick and Vapour instead of Vapor.

Its people like Chosenbyhim and the other nutters of extremist "Christian" Cults that non-believers use to point out how stupid Christianity is, and boy do they have some ammunition here .

I am just lost for words at to how stupid these claims are, anyone with an ounce of common sense can pull this apart. .. 17th Century English purist language on earth, who would have thought that? No one apart from this crazy cult.
 
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For the love of Pete! The KJV is called the Authorized version only because King James officially authorized the book, not because of God. Get your facts right, KJV'ers.
I can take the Da Vinci Code, by Dan Brown and write the whole novel in my own words and sell it,
with Dan Brown's name on it. If I don't have Dan Brown's approval, or the approval of the publisher,
its counterfeiting. If man wont allow you to do this with his words, why do you think you can get by
with this with God? The KJV Bible IS God authorized and God inspired. If it isn't, then its not God's
word at all.
 
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I can take the Da Vinci Code, by Dan Brown and write the whole novel in my own words and sell it,
with Dan Brown's name on it. If I don't have Dan Brown's approval, or the approval of the publisher,
its counterfeiting. If man wont allow you to do this with his words, why do you think you can get by
with this with God? The KJV Bible IS God authorized and God inspired. If it isn't, then its not God's
word at all.
The following Bible translations are all "God authorized and God inspired".
New King James Version
21st Century King James Version
New Cambridge Paragraph Bible
New American Standard Bible
English Standard Version
New English Translation (NET)
Christian Community Bible (Catholic)
Concordant Literal Version
Apostolic Bible Polyglot
1611 KJV
 
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Okay. First off, HOW WOULD YOU EVEN KNOW IF GOD PERSONALLY AUTHORIZED IT? Did He call up the publishers and say "Hey, good news, I just approved your thus-and-such a version!"
The only TRULY 100% GUARANTEED TO BE 100% ACCURATE AND CAPTURES ALL THAT THE WRITERS INTENDED TO CAPTURE VERSION IS THE ORIGINAL GREEK AND HEBREW. It's the same with ALL OTHER LANGUAGES. It doesn't matter if it's a Chinese translation, a Japanese translation, whatever. The best translation on this, our earth, will ALWAYS be the original Greek and Hebrew.
 

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I can take the Da Vinci Code, by Dan Brown and write the whole novel in my own words and sell it,
with Dan Brown's name on it. If I don't have Dan Brown's approval, or the approval of the publisher,
its counterfeiting. If man wont allow you to do this with his words, why do you think you can get by
with this with God? The KJV Bible IS God authorized and God inspired. If it isn't, then its not God's
word at all.
What makes you think it is? Because I can not see it no matter how hard I try to see it. All I see are deluded fools and a cult hell bent on forcing everyone to think like them.
 
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:) I'm going to go watch Mortal Instruments: City of Bones. Yah. That sounds like a good movie. It might even end up being right up there with Harry Potter, Narnia, and Lord of the Rings.

Yes, This sounds like a brilliant evening to do so. I'm so glad I worship a God who gives us the freedom not to have to buy into the koolaid puked out in words by people like KJVBIBLECATOWNER.