KJV Issue #4 - Inspiration and Preservation - By Pastor Richard Sowell

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CoooCaw

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the thing he fails TO POINT OUT IS THAT HE ONLY TRULY INSPIRED VERSION IS THE KJV 1769 CAMBRIDE SECOND EDITOiN

ALL else is heresy!!
 

ChosenbyHim

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I recommend listening to the whole sermon series.

And in regard to the 1769 Edition of the King James Bible, one of the main factors for this edition was to standardize the spelling of words in the Authorized Version.

The spelling of English words did not begin to take a stable form until the 18th century. Hence, the 1769 edition of the Authorzed Version with the standardized spelling was published.


And as far as your last comment is concerned. There is no heresy being taught.
 

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I recommend listening to the whole sermon series.

And in regard to the 1769 Edition of the King James Bible, one of the main factors for this edition was to standardize the spelling of words in the Authorized Version.

The spelling of English words did not begin to take a stable form until the 18th century. Hence, the 1769 edition of the Authorzed Version with the standardized spelling was published.


And as far as your last comment is concerned. There is no heresy being taught.
Yet in another thread you condemn spelling differences as being satanic, or do you see the 1769 as satanic?
 
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I recommend listening to the whole sermon series.

And in regard to the 1769 Edition of the King James Bible, one of the main factors for this edition was to standardize the spelling of words in the Authorized Version.

The spelling of English words did not begin to take a stable form until the 18th century. Hence, the 1769 edition of the Authorzed Version with the standardized spelling was published.

And as far as your last comment is concerned. There is no heresy being taught.
It's mass heresy. The KJV was pure and perfect in 1611. There's no reason to "standardize" the spelling that God chose in 1611 other than Satan's attempts to corrupt God's word.

Why don't you just believe the Book?

So basically what you are doing is making changes to it that you feel should be made. Is that the case?

You don't correct God's Book; but rather, you let God's Book correct YOU.
This is Wicked KJV 1631, only two years after Cambridge issued their first "revision" of the KJV. You can see that God isn't happy about any attempt to change even one jot or tittle of His word.


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I recommend listening to the whole sermon series.

And in regard to the 1769 Edition of the King James Bible, one of the main factors for this edition was to standardize the spelling of words in the Authorized Version.

The spelling of English words did not begin to take a stable form until the 18th century. Hence, the 1769 edition of the Authorzed Version with the standardized spelling was published.


And as far as your last comment is concerned. There is no heresy being taught.
not even in the Oxford edition where we find the word spirit with a LOWER CASE S where it CLEARLY is referring to the Holy Spirit!!!???
 
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not even in the Oxford edition where we find the word spirit with a LOWER CASE S where it CLEARLY is referring to the Holy Spirit!!!???
Cambridge is equally guilty.

1 John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. (c. 1900 "Pure" "Cambridge" "Edition")

1 John 5:8 And there are three that beare witnesse in earth, the Spirit, and the Water, and the Blood, and these three agree in one. (KJV)
 

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What makes the KJV or AV (1611) Pure compared to say the ESV? Does that mean the language we speak now is wrong, and that would then mean that American English could be classed as a disgracefull blasphemy.. if used in a bible translation?

Interesting.
 
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What makes the KJV or AV (1611) Pure compared to say the ESV? Does that mean the language we speak now is wrong, and that would then mean that American English could be classed as a disgracefull blasphemy.. if used in a bible translation?

Interesting.
I copied this from the C.S. Lewis thread, here's the KJV-only position:

Believers Beware of Counterfeit King James Bibles

"Now the very worst of this battle of o-u-r vs. o-r comes when dealing with the only begotten Son of God, our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The modern day counterfeiters have changed Saviour to Savior. They have given us a six-letter Savior in place of a seven-letter Saviour. In Bible numerics seven is the number of completeness, purity, and spiritual perfection. On the other hand six is the number of man which is earthly not heavenly. Every one has heard of 666. It has a bad connotation and is not highly esteemed in Bible numerics."

"The seven-letter Saviour is the only begotten Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ. The six-letter Savior is the son of perdition, the anti christ. He wants to be like the most High (Isaiah 14:14,) but not in a good way, but in an evil way. He is not a follower. He's a counterfeiter. Therefore his final destination is the lake of fire. The new versions, along with the new age movement, and some of the King James Bible counterfeits are preparing the way for this six-letter so called Savior. That's the way he will spell his name, S-a-v-i-o-r not S-a-v-i-o-u-r. No thank you Satan. I'm sticking with the seven-letter Saviour as portrayed in the old black Book that I inherited from my forefathers."
 

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Yet in another thread you condemn spelling differences as being satanic, or do you see the 1769 as satanic?

Agricola, what was being discussed in that other thread was the fact that modern secular Printing and Publishing Companies are deliberately making changes to the text of the Authorized King James Bible.

That's why on the market today there's the 21st Century King James Version, the King James 2000 Version, Modern King James Version, King James Easy Reading Version, etc.

When the Authorized Version was first published in 1611, the English Language was at its height. And yet, (just as I stated earlier) the Spelling of English words had not yet been standardized. That would not take place until the 18th century. And again, when the 1769 Edition of the Authorized Version was published, it was published with the spelling of English words standardized.

Keep in mind that the English language itself was going through a refining and purification process in the 17th and 18th centuries. Therefore, there was really no need for further refining after the 1769 edition of the Authorized Version. And as David Reagan said, 80% of the corrections were made by 1638. And those corrections were for the earlier printing and typographical errors which had occurred. So again; as stated before, the main purpose of the 1769 edition, and also the 1762 edition was simply for the standardization of spelling.


And the second thing that was mainly being discussed in that other thread was the fact that in Bible Numerics, the number seven means completion, purity, and spiritual perfection. And that the number 6 is the number of man.

So the word Saviour (7 letters) means we a have a perfect Saviour. And Savior (6 letters) could be a reference to anyone. Remember 7 is the number of completion and perfection. 6 is the number of man. So concerning this change, in Bible Numerology it is a very serious one.

Therefore, my convictions regarding this difference remains firm. And a lot of the other Bible believing brethren also have conviction about this.


 

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Well if that there KJV was good 'nough for them 'postels...
 
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Cambridge is equally guilty.

1 John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. (c. 1900 "Pure" "Cambridge" "Edition")

1 John 5:8 And there are three that beare witnesse in earth, the Spirit, and the Water, and the Blood, and these three agree in one. (KJV)
yeah that is why you need the 2nd Cambridge edition :)
 

Agricola

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Keep in mind that the English language itself was going through a refining and purification process in the 17th and 18th centuries. Therefore, there was really no need for further refining after the 1769 edition of the Authorized Version. And as David Reagan said, 80% of the corrections were made by 1638. And those corrections were for the earlier printing and typographical errors which had occurred. So again; as stated before, the main purpose of the 1769 edition, and also the 1762 edition was simply for the standardization of spelling.


And the second thing that was mainly being discussed in that other thread was the fact that in Bible Numerics, the number seven means completion, purity, and spiritual perfection. And that the number 6 is the number of man.

So the word Saviour (7 letters) means we a have a perfect Saviour. And Savior (6 letters) could be a reference to anyone. Remember 7 is the number of completion and perfection. 6 is the number of man. So concerning this change, in Bible Numerology it is a very serious one.

Therefore, my convictions regarding this difference remains firm. And a lot of the other Bible believing brethren also have conviction about this.


ANother typically poor intellectual thinking and logic by your cult.

Language is continually evolving, there is no such thing as a perfect refined language. The language we speak and write is different from what it was 200 years ago, in 200 years time the language of today will be strange.

spelling was not very important and OUR and OR were in common use for centuries, when you look into it,the ridiculous claims you make over savior or saviour is pathetic at best.

Your cult is an embarrassment to Christianity.
 
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ANother typically poor intellectual thinking and logic by your cult.

Language is continually evolving, there is no such thing as a perfect refined language. The language we speak and write is different from what it was 200 years ago, in 200 years time the language of today will be strange.

spelling was not very important and OUR and OR were in common use for centuries, when you look into it,the ridiculous claims you make over savior or saviour is pathetic at best.

Your cult is an embarrassment to Christianity.
it is true that English is devolving; this is what happens to a language which either does not have the word of God in that language or abandon the teaching of the word of God

the fact is the KJV is single handedly responsible for the greatest missionary movement in history
 

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Seriously? You are claiming that our Language is devolving because we reject God. seriously? that is borderline insanity, its crazy how far things have to go to keep the cults initial beliefs going.
 

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Wow, this is my first real exposure to the KJV-only folks. You're REALLY concerned that in the UK they spell it "Saviour" while in the US we spell it "Savior?" What about flavour and centre, et cetera? Haven't you heard that numerology is of Satan? I agree that certain numbers in the Bible are significant, but this type of differentiation is beyond reasonable: it is of the occult!
 
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it is true that English is devolving; this is what happens to a language which either does not have the word of God in that language or abandon the teaching of the word of God

the fact is the KJV is single handedly responsible for the greatest missionary movement in history
The language devolved because the Europeans hunted vnicornes to extinction.

Num 23:22 God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an Unicorne.

Num 24:8 God brought him forth out of Egypt, he hath as it were the strength of an Unicorne: he shall eate vp the nations his enemies, and shall breake their bones, and pierce them thorow with his arrowes.

Deut 33:17 His glory is like the firstling of his bullocke, & his hornes are like the hornes of Unicornes: with them he shall push the people together, to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.

Job 39:9 Will the Unicorne be willing to serue thee? or abide by thy cribbe? 10 Canst thou binde the Unicorne with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleyes after thee?

Ps 22:21 Saue me from the lyons mouth: for thou hast heard me from the hornes of the vnicornes.

Ps 29:6 He maketh them also to skip like a calfe: Lebanon, and Sirion like a yong Unicorne.

Ps 92:10 But my horne shalt thou exalt like the horne of an vnicorne: I shalbe anointed with fresh oyle.

Isa 34:7 And the Unicornes shall come downe with them, and the bullockes with the bulles, and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatnesse.

Portrait of Young Woman with Unicorn, Raphael, c. 1506, oil on canvas applied to wood.

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So that's why the KJV is the only translation with the term "unicorn", they were hunted out of existance after it's publication?
 
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So that's why the KJV is the only translation with the term "unicorn", they were hunted out of existance after it's publication?
The reason that the English language devolved is because of vnicorne extinction. The only way to reverse this tragic trend is to use the KJV 1611 only.

it is true that English is devolving; this is what happens to a language which either does not have the word of God in that language or abandon the teaching of the word of God
I started a new thread and would appreciate everyone's comments:

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...enies-divinity-jesus-christ-john-14-14-a.html
 
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