Great Pyramid Builder Identified in Scripture

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Huckleberry

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The Great Pyramid of Khufu, aka Cheops, was built by Job.
Job and Cheops were the same person, and he was obviously not Egyptian.
The Pyramid was built as a tomb for Joseph.
The coffin in the Pyramid was empty upon its discovery.
That's because Moses removed Joseph's mummy from it, and carried it out of Egypt in the Exodus.
All this and more is laid out in a very convincing paper published in 1964.
 
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kenisyes

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The author of your paper is so confused! Egyptians kept accurate records of pharoahs, their names, and in many cases, fairly exact dates, computed from the disagreements between regnal and astronomical year. Just a few problems: Djoser (Tcheser, Zoser) is third dynasty. Cheops is fourth. There's almost two centuries of time between them. Joseph is responsible for the Nileometer, and the royal control of the tombs, but that is twlefth Dynasty. You have Job being all these people. The famine of Tcheser (regardless of how the seminary textbooks treat it) is a third dynasty event. If you choose to link it, you fail to account for the architectural evidence of the development of the 22/28 slope constant developed in the meantime. You will also need to account for Djedi the wiseman in the legend of the measurement, and for Madir's consultation of the records at Onu (how could anyone think this is the same as "amen"?). "Amen" by the way, is a loan word, probably Egyptian to Hebrew (maybe the other way around), in each case derived from amet, meaning truth. It is a common word in both languages. Further, how do you account for Uz, where Job lived? If the Job, son of Issachar is the same, how did he get there, all by himself, without the brothers and cousins.
 
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john832

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Huckleberry said:
The Great Pyramid of Khufu, aka Cheops, was built by Job.
Job and Cheops were the same person, and he was obviously not Egyptian.
The Pyramid was built as a tomb for Joseph.
The coffin in the Pyramid was empty upon its discovery.
That's because Moses removed Joseph's mummy from it, and carried it out of Egypt in the Exodus.
All this and more is laid out in a very convincing paper published in 1964.
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Actually, America is Manasseh and Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa are Ephraim. Read this 39 years ago.
 
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Huckleberry

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kenisyes said:
The author of your paper is so confused! Egyptians kept accurate records of pharoahs, their names, and in many cases, fairly exact dates, computed from the disagreements between regnal and astronomical year. Just a few problems: Djoser (Tcheser, Zoser) is third dynasty. Cheops is fourth. There's almost two centuries of time between them. Joseph is responsible for the Nileometer, and the royal control of the tombs, but that is twlefth Dynasty. You have Job being all these people. The famine of Tcheser (regardless of how the seminary textbooks treat it) is a third dynasty event. If you choose to link it, you fail to account for the architectural evidence of the development of the 22/28 slope constant developed in the meantime. You will also need to account for Djedi the wiseman in the legend of the measurement, and for Madir's consultation of the records at Onu (how could anyone think this is the same as "amen"?). "Amen" by the way, is a loan word, probably Egyptian to Hebrew (maybe the other way around), in each case derived from amet, meaning truth. It is a common word in both languages. Further, how do you account for Uz, where Job lived? If the Job, son of Issachar is the same, how did he get there, all by himself, without the brothers and cousins.
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I don't take this paper as gospel,
but I suspect the author was smarter than you concerning this subject.
What was your doctoral dissertation about?
 
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CoooCaw

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fruitcakes................
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Huckleberry said:
The Great Pyramid of Khufu, aka Cheops, was built by Job.
Job and Cheops were the same person, and he was obviously not Egyptian.
The Pyramid was built as a tomb for Joseph.
The coffin in the Pyramid was empty upon its discovery.
That's because Moses removed Joseph's mummy from it, and carried it out of Egypt in the Exodus.
All this and more is laid out in a very convincing paper published in 1964.
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job and khufu were certainly not the same person...khufu was an egyptian pharaoh...job was an aramean herdsman...

by joseph's time the 'great' pyramids had already been built...

there is a tomb that is possibly joseph's tomb...but it is not a pyramid...and it is in avaris...not giza...
 
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kenisyes

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You may read my work on the Rhind Mathematical Papyrus (including its relation to Scripture) at my website. While there, you can also read my extensive commentary on the Famine Stele and complete translation of the the Denderah Crypt serpent jar room, linking the running angel of the Book of Jubilees with the Khnemu machine.

His website says:

"His “reconstruction of history” was published in 1962 as a two volume“ Compendium of World History” which was his doctoral dissertation at Ambassador College. Later, perhaps in the late 70’s

he came to see that much of his “reconstruction” was wrong, and he publicly so stated. It says a lot about Herman Hoeh that he had th e intellectual honesty to repudiate a large portion of his life work including his PhD dissertation." http://www.originofnations.org/HL_Hoeh/Herman Hoeh Remembered-1-05.pdf p. 1par. 3

Now about the College: Ambassador College - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia see the history section. They were not accredited at the time he attended, and were not a graduate institution, and so did not offer a PhD. I doubt seriously that any accredited school would have ever even looked at something with so many errors.
 
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Bryancampbell

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Wasn't Job before Noah? Like brother Kenisyes said, if he was one of the children of Israel, how did he live in Uz by himself?
 
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Huckleberry

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Bryancampbell said:
Wasn't Job before Noah? Like brother Kenisyes said, if he was one of the children of Israel, how did he live in Uz by himself?
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Job offered up burnt offerings on behalf of his children.
That puts him after Noah and after The Flood.
Also, as a child, Job went into Egypt with Jacob.
Doesn't mean he had to stay there.
 
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kenisyes said:
You may read my work on the Rhind Mathematical Papyrus (including its relation to Scripture) at my website. While there, you can also read my extensive commentary on the Famine Stele and complete translation of the the Denderah Crypt serpent jar room, linking the running angel of the Book of Jubilees with the Khnemu machine.
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LOL@Ken:)
you're amazing, that's for sure.
 
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Bryancampbell

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Huckleberry said:
Job offered up burnt offerings on behalf of his children.
That puts him after Noah and after The Flood.
Also, as a child, Job went into Egypt with Jacob.
Doesn't mean he had to stay there.
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What about Abel I know he sacrificed to, maybe for thanksgiving.
I remember doing a reading plan in chronological order, maybe job was before the tower of Babel? I know he couldn't have been with Joseph because there is no mention of him with Joseph....?
 
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Bryancampbell

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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Job apparently was sometime after the division of nations at Babel. His contemporary Elihu was a descendent of Ram, who was a descendent of Perez.
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Hmmm I don't know, I remember it was either before the flood or the tower. Do you have places for your information about timelines? Because I seem confused :confused:
 
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Bryancampbell

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Okay so apparently nobody knows exactly as I searched. One says right before Abram was named Abraham, another says before Noah, another says after tower of Babel, another says right before Moses. Do we know for sure? They have dates to which doesn't help when they all say different things...
 
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Huckleberry

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Bryancampbell said:
What about Abel I know he sacrificed to, maybe for thanksgiving.
I remember doing a reading plan in chronological order, maybe job was before the tower of Babel? I know he couldn't have been with Joseph because there is no mention of him with Joseph....?
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God Himself performed the first animal sacrifice to cover Adam and Eve.
The first burnt offering was by Noah after The Flood.
Genesis 46:13 names Job coming into Egypt with Jacob.
That puts him with Joseph.
 
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