What Laws are still valid to christians
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Good things. I like talking with you. Loving others are defined in the law according to Leviticus 19: 15-18, and even more. It's a persuasion of the love concept and a state of mind and of the heart through instruction. Loving God with this same persuasion of instruction is given in Leviticus 6:1-6. It certainly isn't a matter of self works, it's a matter of character building according to God's will. Thank you! Salvation is a way of life, and being born gain is the beginning of a brand new life.
So by ansewering the question I am avoinding the question?
I trust the words of the Messiah and I follow them. Yahshua says to teach and do the Law of Yahweh. SO I do.
Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, hhe will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."
Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 5You shall love your hneighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
Mattithyah 5:18 "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
Mattithyah 24:35, "Heaven and earth may pass away, but My words will not pass away."
Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."
1785. entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.
Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, hhe will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."
This next verses always bothered me, you knowit nnever made sense to me why Yahshua would say to follow the instructions of the Pharisses???? Im guessing it never bothered you because you dont seem to care too much what Yahshua says.
Every translation reads as such, as all Greek texts read this way:
New International Version Mt 23:2-3
"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach."
King James Bible Mt 23:2-3
"Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not."
However Yahweh has left us truth!
Shem Tob's Hebrew Mattithyah
Mattithyah 23:2-3, "The Pharisees and Sages sit upon the seat of Mosheh. Therefore, all that he (Mosheh) says to you, diligently do, but according to thier takanot (reforms) and thier ma'asim (precedents) do not do, because they talk (Torah) but they do not do."
Takanot: reforms or enactments that (falsely) "change or add" to Yahweh's Law.
Ma'asim: acts or deeds that serve as precedents for rabbinic law.
Both Takanot and Ma'asim are laws of the Talmud.
THIS IS THE BURDEN!
Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"
the word Law is: 3551. nomos
nomos: that which is assigned, hence usage, law
Original Word: νόμος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: nomos
Phonetic Spelling: (nom'-os)
Short Definition: a law, the Mosaic Law
Definition: usage, custom, law; in NT: of law in general, plur: of divine laws; of a force or influence impelling to action; of the Mosaic law; meton: of the books which contain the law, the Pentateuch, the Old Testament scriptures in general.
Mattithyah 7:21, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
iniquity is:
#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon)
From G0459; illegality, that is, violation of law or (generally) wickedness:—iniquity, X transgress (-ion of) the law, unrighteousness.
Strong's (Greek Dictionary of the New Testament) #458.
α᾿νομι´α anomia; from 459; lawlessness:— lawless deed, lawless deeds, lawlessness
FROM:
#0459 ἄνομος anomos {an'-om-os} from G0001 (as a negative particle) and G3551; TDNT - 4:1086,646; adj
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) destitute of (the Mosaic) law
1a) of the Gentiles
2) departing from the law, a violator of the law, lawless, wicked
Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon)
From G0001 (as a negative particle) and G3551; lawless, that is, (negatively) not subject to (the Jewish) law; (by implication a Gentile), or (positively) wicked:— without law, lawless, transgressor, unlawful, wicked.
Strong's (Greek Dictionary of the New Testament) #459.
α῎νομος anomos; from 1 (as a neg. pref.) and 3551; lawless, without law:— godless men, lawless, lawless one, transgressors, without the law, without law, without law.
Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."
I see some people hate those who keep Yahweh's Law....
I trust the words of the Messiah and I follow them. Yahshua says to teach and do the Law of Yahweh. SO I do.
Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, hhe will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."
Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 5You shall love your hneighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
Mattithyah 5:18 "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
Mattithyah 24:35, "Heaven and earth may pass away, but My words will not pass away."
Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."
1785. entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.
Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, hhe will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."
This next verses always bothered me, you knowit nnever made sense to me why Yahshua would say to follow the instructions of the Pharisses???? Im guessing it never bothered you because you dont seem to care too much what Yahshua says.
Every translation reads as such, as all Greek texts read this way:
New International Version Mt 23:2-3
"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach."
King James Bible Mt 23:2-3
"Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not."
However Yahweh has left us truth!
Shem Tob's Hebrew Mattithyah
Mattithyah 23:2-3, "The Pharisees and Sages sit upon the seat of Mosheh. Therefore, all that he (Mosheh) says to you, diligently do, but according to thier takanot (reforms) and thier ma'asim (precedents) do not do, because they talk (Torah) but they do not do."
Takanot: reforms or enactments that (falsely) "change or add" to Yahweh's Law.
Ma'asim: acts or deeds that serve as precedents for rabbinic law.
Both Takanot and Ma'asim are laws of the Talmud.
THIS IS THE BURDEN!
Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"
the word Law is: 3551. nomos
nomos: that which is assigned, hence usage, law
Original Word: νόμος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: nomos
Phonetic Spelling: (nom'-os)
Short Definition: a law, the Mosaic Law
Definition: usage, custom, law; in NT: of law in general, plur: of divine laws; of a force or influence impelling to action; of the Mosaic law; meton: of the books which contain the law, the Pentateuch, the Old Testament scriptures in general.
Mattithyah 7:21, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
iniquity is:
#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon)
From G0459; illegality, that is, violation of law or (generally) wickedness:—iniquity, X transgress (-ion of) the law, unrighteousness.
Strong's (Greek Dictionary of the New Testament) #458.
α᾿νομι´α anomia; from 459; lawlessness:— lawless deed, lawless deeds, lawlessness
FROM:
#0459 ἄνομος anomos {an'-om-os} from G0001 (as a negative particle) and G3551; TDNT - 4:1086,646; adj
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) destitute of (the Mosaic) law
1a) of the Gentiles
2) departing from the law, a violator of the law, lawless, wicked
Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon)
From G0001 (as a negative particle) and G3551; lawless, that is, (negatively) not subject to (the Jewish) law; (by implication a Gentile), or (positively) wicked:— without law, lawless, transgressor, unlawful, wicked.
Strong's (Greek Dictionary of the New Testament) #459.
α῎νομος anomos; from 1 (as a neg. pref.) and 3551; lawless, without law:— godless men, lawless, lawless one, transgressors, without the law, without law, without law.
Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."
I see some people hate those who keep Yahweh's Law....
When considered in the light of the whole counsel of God, we see that this is addressed to Hebrews who were considering returning to Judaism because of the persecution from their families and friends.
The writer warns that if they go back to Judaism, they are rejecting Christ and his sacrifice for their sin, just as those who had him killed did, and there is no other sacrifice to forgive their sin, so they will die condemned in the guilt of their sin.
It has nothing to do with loss of salvation.
Those who went back were never saved in the first place.
You can't lose what you don't have.
Those who were truly saved heeded the warning and did not go back.
David was all of the above and lapsed, but he did not lose his salvation.
The writer warns that if they go back to Judaism, they are rejecting Christ and his sacrifice for their sin, just as those who had him killed did, and there is no other sacrifice to forgive their sin, so they will die condemned in the guilt of their sin.
It has nothing to do with loss of salvation.
Those who went back were never saved in the first place.
You can't lose what you don't have.
Those who were truly saved heeded the warning and did not go back.
David was all of the above and lapsed, but he did not lose his salvation.
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Ask that question in your prayer life considering this scripture. I am shy to answer your question because I am all but convinced that it will start another never ending conflict that I really don't what to be involved in. Hearing the truth of the law is more than condemnation by the law. I think it's a matter of thanking God for the law so that we can see our old nature that will never be gone until we die. The law is part of the mirror that James speaks of. James connects that mirror with the law of liberty.
Zechariah 7:12 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which the LORD of hosts hath sent in his spirit by the former prophets: therefore came a great wrath from the LORD of hosts.
Romans 7:14 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Zechariah 7:12 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which the LORD of hosts hath sent in his spirit by the former prophets: therefore came a great wrath from the LORD of hosts.
Romans 7:14 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Why would you ask such a ridiculous question to a mortal such as myself. Whatever you believe in that respect, I have not problem with. The question should be are you really saved or not? I cannot, and neither can anyone else answer that question with any truth. It is obvious to me that this is a question to cause argument. Have you ever read from me that I believe one way or the other?
That's God's judgement not mans. I will give you this however;
Hebrews 6:4-6 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
[SUP]6 [/SUP]If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
I was addressing a question that was for the purpose of arguing. I wanted to avoid conflict. I used this scripture to say that some people have a problem with this scripture thinking they may lose their salvation. Why bring it up? I made it clear that my judgment on this matter is not my place or for any mortal human to make, so I refused to answer the question when the answer belongs to God only.
I have said 3 times I follow the Instructions of the Messiah, it seemes to me that your way of ignoring the following verses is by saying im not answering.
I post verses that you dont want to touch so there "ridiculous, copy/paste response" I dont speak with the mouth of a theologian, I simply state my response and then provide Scriptures to show why.
Just tell me what these verses mean to you, I dont care we agree or not, if you cant atleast give me the respect of giving you view on them I ask that you never speak to me until you do give me your view on these. As I have answered your question multiple times.
Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, hhe will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."
Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
Mattithyah 7:21, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
iniquity is:
#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
I post verses that you dont want to touch so there "ridiculous, copy/paste response" I dont speak with the mouth of a theologian, I simply state my response and then provide Scriptures to show why.
Just tell me what these verses mean to you, I dont care we agree or not, if you cant atleast give me the respect of giving you view on them I ask that you never speak to me until you do give me your view on these. As I have answered your question multiple times.
Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, hhe will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."
Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
Mattithyah 7:21, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
iniquity is:
#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
C
I was pointing out the grandfathering of the Law of Sin by stating the origins of that Law when God equated disobedience to death.
I will be up front and honest, I do not know the "defining rules" which make up the "Mosaic Law". But, I do know that under the Law of Sin, a person was never justified (escaped death), seeing that God's glory sought its justice upon disobedience.
I will be up front and honest, I do not know the "defining rules" which make up the "Mosaic Law". But, I do know that under the Law of Sin, a person was never justified (escaped death), seeing that God's glory sought its justice upon disobedience.
TRUE!
Romans 8:6-8, "For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), Yahweh; for it his not subject to the Law of Yahweh, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please Yahweh."
the word Law is 3551. nomos[h=4]Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon)[/h] From a primary word νέμω [[nemo]] (to parcel out, especially food or grazing to animals); law (through the idea of prescriptive usage), generally (regulation), specifically (of Moses [including the volume]; also of the Gospel), or figuratively (a principle):—law.
Romans 8:6-8, "For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), Yahweh; for it his not subject to the Law of Yahweh, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please Yahweh."
the word Law is 3551. nomos[h=4]Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon)[/h] From a primary word νέμω [[nemo]] (to parcel out, especially food or grazing to animals); law (through the idea of prescriptive usage), generally (regulation), specifically (of Moses [including the volume]; also of the Gospel), or figuratively (a principle):—law.
So ten Brother reckon you your sinful flesh dead to sin daily with Christ's death. be thus co-crucified daily with Christ thern so that you might not sin.
[h=3]1 John 2:1-4[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: [SUP]2 [/SUP]and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
What are his commandments? To believe in Him as the way, the truth. and the life, that no one gets to the Father but through Christ the Son that did it all for us, to be born again in God, by the resurrection of Christ. Death was needed first though. And that death is to be one's death to the self. So that one might see the new life God the Father freely gives to us through Son.
[h=3]Philippians 3:10-11[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
[SUP]11 [/SUP]if by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
Are you not seeing that it is through death to self with Christ at the cross, that we made new in the Spirit of God by the resurrected Christ, a free gift to us from God the Father?
[h=3]Colossians 1:21-28[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled [SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: [SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister; [SUP]24 [/SUP]who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church: [SUP]25 [/SUP]whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; [SUP]26 [/SUP]even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: [SUP]27 [/SUP]to whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: [SUP]28 [/SUP]whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
[h=3]1 John 2:1-4[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: [SUP]2 [/SUP]and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
What are his commandments? To believe in Him as the way, the truth. and the life, that no one gets to the Father but through Christ the Son that did it all for us, to be born again in God, by the resurrection of Christ. Death was needed first though. And that death is to be one's death to the self. So that one might see the new life God the Father freely gives to us through Son.
[h=3]Philippians 3:10-11[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
[SUP]11 [/SUP]if by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
Are you not seeing that it is through death to self with Christ at the cross, that we made new in the Spirit of God by the resurrected Christ, a free gift to us from God the Father?
[h=3]Colossians 1:21-28[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled [SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: [SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister; [SUP]24 [/SUP]who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church: [SUP]25 [/SUP]whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; [SUP]26 [/SUP]even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: [SUP]27 [/SUP]to whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: [SUP]28 [/SUP]whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus: